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Ok WM dad, you got lucky getting off the Island last year, Then took a solid beating upstate and had to come home a loser. SE beat you to the LIC the two years previous and will again this year. Stop with your Dominant program. Recent results are not supporting that statement.

GC and Manhasset hold back their kids? You're an idiot. Why because your from Macarthur and got killed by them both? Go away simpleton.

Change topic, what does having D-1 commits have to do with anything? I know players out there that are not committed that can outplay the committed players, out dodge, out shoot, defensively shut them down. There are several on many of the schools that people on this board like to bash. Let's get a grip, most of the D-1 commits are due to parents and not the players, there are a few exceptions but I would say nearly 85% of the early commits are due to the parents.

I would call this post stupid, but that would be a huge insult to all the stupid posts. If you are saying the number of early commits has little bearing on the teams future success we have a starting point for a discussion. But to claim that the only reason kids get an early commit is because of the parents is "fake news", Kids ability, College coaches interest as well as travel teams marketing of the kid all have major roles in the ER and yes the parents play a large part but to think that a parent can force a college to commit to their kid is just stupid.

USLacrosse Magazine Nike pre-season poll - North East

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 Darien (Conn.)
3 Victor (N.Y.)
4 Ward Melville (N.Y.)
5 Chaminade (N.Y.)
6 Jamesville-Dewitt (N.Y.)
7 Syosset (N.Y.)
8 Smithtown East (N.Y.)
9 Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
10 New Canaan (Conn.)

IMHO - Chaminade is better then St A's and CSH is better then WM, SYO and SE

while the bulk of that post is way off. the fact is that some commits are in fact facilitated by a parent. for example a legacy family member with a building named for them at an IVY, parent who volunteers up front to pay full freight or better, a kid committing to a horrible program desperate for any one ( yes look at bottom of D1) parent presents a marginal player who has a sky high GPA. there are spots on the 55-60+ roster for these kids.
no way near the 85% quoted...maybe a small percentage

I don't think the poster was claiming that colleges are offering kids who can't play just because their parents push it. I think he or she was just saying that the talented players that are committed can be matched by players who are just as talented, but who aren't committed yet, simply because their parents have not yet played the game with all the showcases, travel teams, ect. Whether or not this is true is a different question, but I think you misread their point, or maybe it was just poorly stated.

Also, many kids that are committed are still young (9th grade, for example). They are committed because some D1 coach projects them to be awesome in 4 years. These kids may not, at present, be as good as an 11th or 12th grader who is not yet committed, but may wind up at D2 or D3 or playing some other sport in college.

Wow, season hasn't even started, let's wait until everyone has played at least 5 or 6 games before we start trashing each other's programs.

most pre-season polls are done before teams play five or six games - it's February and it's 75 degrees out, lets talk some lax

Isn't this talking about lax?

let me guess....you went to chaminade and live in the CSH district?

Love when people don't like a poll and try to find another less accurate that fits into their agenda! Sorry, not going to make your team better.

I was a little too faklempt for Chaminade and way to meshuggah for CSH -

The so-called sports writers based pole on last years results, and factored loss from high profile graduated players...

come on Chamy and SA are over rated as usual and both would have there work cut for them if they played Suffolk A

Ha....now that's funny. Sooooo many cupcake games in that league.

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Please Snowflake Kellenberg, Fordham Prep, ST Ignatius Prep are as cupcake as they come. SA did play a tougher Schedule then Chaminade.

I think that is a realistic post! Everyone is now on to all you 85% parents and the help of HS and club coaches. The college coaches should just view a player for what he is and stop asking about the player. Too many weak players are getting shoved down college coaches throats.

St Ignatius played a weak schedule Lax mag added them to include California

Well not sure what an 85% parent is but sounds funny. I think college Coaches do view young players for what they are and will over commit early at positions because many players withdraw by the time ready to leave high school. For example Coaches may commit 7 to 8 lefty attacks in there freshman and sophomore years just to have 3 by the time they graduate. One can see how it can create a frenzy.

10 teams in Suffulk A that wouldnt post a winning record against any of the LI teams in catholic league. may have a win here or there but no wining records.
Bay Shore
Brentwood
Copiague
Floyd
Lindenhurst
Longwood
Middle Country
North Babylon
Pat Med
Riverhead

then a few more that would struggle to be above .500
Commack
Whitman
Huntingon
HHH West
Smith West
Northport


just like any league, in any state/county 6 teams makes the top tier of that 6 2/3 are the cream of the crop.

Not true, or else Syosett would be ranked higher

Well looking at this list you clearly have little idea what you are talking about . I will say 8 of those 10 above would struggle as they do against the top 10 Suffolk A . Whitman, Smithtown west and Northport are better than both Sachems. Maybe because your from Sachem? WM, SE,SW, CONN, NP, WI, HHE, and maybe SN were your from would at least compete and prob dominate at times. Teams like Trinity, Kellenberg, SJB would as you say struggle to be above 500.

Agreed. But, most colleges will not hold a spot, for that type of player. The coach might ask the kid to walk on, if the player can get gain admissions without athletic support. Sometimes it works out great for both sides...

Really? I guess your son just hasn't gotten the call yet. Of course 85% of commits on LI are not really that good. Yet your uncommitted son is the "real deal"... Ok, I guess he's just a VICTIM of a system that's stacked against him. Come on man, do you even read what you write before you hit submit? Look at all of the top players from LI over the last few years, 95% were committed to D1 programs. I hope you wrote that post just get people going, there's no way you could be that DUMB.

Word on the street. 91 Organe Kid is going to take Penn state commit spot on Varsity At SA

Kid on express looking to commit to Maryland. He's a defender attending SA

U found the right site, lol. Ok no one cares again

91 ograne kid from Brentwood looking to commit to Syracuse

I don't no how kid made 91 team he is not good and WONT be making Varsity

What has happened to this site? where are the moderators?

Moderator enjoy watching a pencil penis dad show his frustration and jealousy of a young talented player who out-played his kid.

Breaking news: I know an Express player looking to commit to Suffolk Community College!!

Don't knock juco lacrosse. Both Suffolk and Nassau can run with all the D 2 schools on the island. They scrimmage every year and scores are always close.

LOL...you beat me to it with your response.

It all starts a week from today.

Hahahaha, not sure I get the joke, but laughing with you because I don't want you to feel like a loser. Even though you are a loser. On a side note, Feb. rankings don't really have much impact on anything do they?

What are you 12 ?wrw