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Very nice to raise money!

They got beat up in Lake Placid!!

Agreed your right to be proud of the boys supporting the cause. You are missing the point, you can be proud, be included and still if you are fair realize it is still wrong the "Extreme" parental involvement with the coaches and the school teams. I would think the school wouldn't want this reputation as catering the wealthier parents as opposed to a kid not from the Popular town where the parents are both working full time and cant and honestly don't want to kiss their [lacrosse] as part of the decision as to whether your kids included or not. God Bless America. Believe me I am just as patriotic as the next guy just because im not wearing the corduroys with the flags all over or not. Its important to raise nice children also.

Who coached the team?

It's sad actually. Youth sports have become so toxic. Especially lacrosse. I see parents and boys that are on the same team who are just out for themselves. Or their friend's kid. If your son isn't in with the "in" group, he will miss out. When I was growing up playing youth sports, this problem didn't exist. Because Dad's actually had to go to work. They couldn't make it their full-time job to drag their son to every practice and game and hang around and watch. Let alone stick their head up the coaches butt getting that extra edge. My parents hardly came to a game. It's the over involvement of the parents that has ruin youth sports today.

wow...incoherent much?

that's what I meant by incoherent

Football is not immune to this - at premier programs, politics plays a role. It happens in college programs at all divisions as well. As a prime example, the athlete that was highly recruited will get a very long leash when he under performs to coaches expectations.

I was referring to the post that concluded with the corduroy comment...that was incoherent

I love u people that say u are in it for academics first. Then by 10 Th grade u realize your kid will not see the field, you transfer out, lol

I see that in lacrosse. My son is good, but is not allowed to make mistakes without getting berated or losing playing time. He has a teammate who I admit is great, but is constantly making multiple mistakes. But I guess if you produce more, you get a longer rope.

Income inequality waa,waa,waa

Totally disagree with you. In Football the best play.

I played college ball and it happens. If it happens there, it will happen at elite programs below the college level where recruiting is involved. Your entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

People with exception talent will get the longer rope in just about everything, not just lacrosse or sports in general

I also played college ball. Sorry to hear it happened at your program. I still disagree.

I have friends and acquaintances that played elsewhere and they echo the same experience in their programs. It's always the same story: a player who the coaches invested a lot of time and effort to recruit shows up, and Freshman into Sophomore year doesn't live up to what was expected - yet they give that player a much longer rope (playing time) than another player that wasn't recruited as heavily, but who, obvious to everyone else, can already produce more that the higher recruited kid. The assumption is consistently that they give the kid more rope since they have to justify the recruiting investment they made. Regardless, in these cases, the better player at that moment is not playing. (This happens in pro sports also with teams' highest salaried players.)

Kind of sounds like the pros....first round pick gets a lot of rope, not so much the 7th round pick. So to summarize, politics play a part in youth sports, HS sports, club sports, college sports, and the pros.

Yes, bu more so at the higher levels, and the discussion started with Chaminade football, so, yes it will/could happen there despite the original poster saying no.

So I have a 2023 son that plays Lax and is considered a top player. He does not play on Express. I also live in a town that has won a state title in Lax within the last few years, it also is a great school district. I stress academics to my kids, any advice on applying to Chaminade or staying put. Only reason why I mentioned I don't play on Express is because of the rumors if you don't paly there you wont play at Chaminade. I also had two cousins (twins) that went to Chaminade and they both went on to excellent colleges and it seemed to me that where they went to High School did play a roll. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, I have time to make a decision...

It comes down to a few things. Most important question - Does your son want to go there ? It is an all-boys school. Then there is a commute, could be an hour or more depending where you live. Does your son want to do that everyday ?
I know boys who don't mind and boys who didn't like it and came back to public.
Chaminade does have a good academic reputation, but if you go to a good public and your kid is in honors/AP courses will it make much of a difference ? I would say there is advantage if you are looking at catholic colleges.
Finally, the lacrosse part. Your son may be a top player now, but a few years can make a huge difference. I know a few boys who were on Express top team in 6th grade, but were dropped off top team as freshman or sophomores. I'm sure that was tough for them, but it was devastating to their parents who thought they would always be top players.
Chaminade has 90 + boys try out for freshman team. I think they keep about half, and half of that group see the field.
So in two years ask yourself these questions :
Does my son really want to go there ?
Is he mentally mature enough as it takes a special kind of kid to handle longer day with commute, homework and more rigid structure ?
Would my son want to still be there if he doesn't make lax team ?
Does he really know how the commute/ time factors will affect him ?
If he does make the team, is he okay with being a role player or hardly seeing the field at all ?
What type of colleges is he looking at ?
Is he being looked at by HS varsity coach to be on varsity in 9th or 10th grade ?
Would he be okay with getting into a better academic college and not playing D1 lacrosse ?

Good luck, hope I was helpful.

Great points. good advice.
its role...not roll ...minor detail., but lets grammar shall we...?

^^^^ That is the definition of a reasoned, helpful response. Cue the negative Nancy's in 3, 2, 1, . . .

I agree . that is a very good response. its obviously from a mom or dad who experienced the process at Chaminade first hand and recently. please re-read it . its not malicious or judgmental. its factual. one more thing your shared experience with your son can be very painful if its all about lacrosse.
assume that this is directed at YOU....

Please keep Syosset out of this dog-fight. This is a Chammy thread. Let's focus on the quickly approaching season.

Oh yes, factual -- blah, blah, blah it takes a mature, special kid to handle it ... they have to travel, and I hear walk up hill to school both ways!!!! don't make me puke, its just another school overselling itself.

Chaminade is a great school. You may be a big fish in a small pond, but when you get there you see the level of competetion. Yeah you lit it up for CYO but now try to make the Chaminade basketball team! Same for soccer, baseball, etc. Football and lax are actually better in the sense that they take more kids. The problem with lax is 100 kids show up and 90% can play.....Say what you want, but you have to have skill to get on that team. Older sons have gone through this before.

I wrote what I know of some families experiences to respond to the parent asking. My son is in high school and plays for a top public school program. He never considered Chaminade and he wouldn't have the determination to do well there anyway, if he could get in. I was just relaying what I know has happened to other kids from my town and other programs that went that route. Some boys like it, some don't. It would be nice if there was more helpful advice and a lot less jealousy, bragging and general immature behavior from supposed adults.

Ignore the morons. It's a sad life they lead. Thanks for sharing.

If Lax is so tough, why do they keep losing to town teams that have a total of 300-400 boys in the entire HS? These town teams have 40 kids show up to tryouts to field a team from. They should be beating these teams by 10 with the second line. How come they routinely duck MIAA teams, year in and year out? Not bashing the team, just pointing out that the stories just don't match the results on the field.

Maybe those kids are burnt out by Junior/Senior year. Don't know.

Hasn't this been beaten to death? When Cham beats Pequa, WI or Manhasset every says "well, of course -- they should". When they lose to a team like Pequa -- a great program with tons of excellent players, Chaminade sucks. Enough already, if you can't admit that it is one of the top programs in America then you are really just delusional. Are there off years? Yes. Should they win more with the talent they have? Yes. But don't say "they keep losing to town teams" like they suck. Just ridiculous.

To the guy whose freshman is lighting up on varsity at a top public. What school. Because I'm callin BS on your whole story!!

Should never lose if so far superior. Games shouldn't even be close. The fact that they are, and many are lost is ridiculous. Again, if top program in America, why no MIAA? Why no Culver? Why no Inter-AC? Invite them in for game, they'll play you. Those guys all play one another. Parents should demand to play other top programs.

No school in New [lacrosse] plays a schedule with as much geographic diversity as the two CHSAA schools do (not the fault of the public schools, but this point stands). And neither Chaminade nor St. Anthony's have travel budgets anything like the middle-Atlantic prep schools do, so you can't really expect them to take real trips out of the area more than once or twice per season.

"Parents should demand to play other top programs." LOL.

(Fun fact: Chaminade will be playing McDonogh this coming year.)

Yes that is what the parents should demand of the school. And what school are district are you at where you are making demands chief?

If Lax is so tough, why do they keep losing to town teams that have a total of 300-400 boys in the entire HS? These town teams have 40 kids show up to tryouts to field a team from. They should be beating these teams by 10 with the second line. How come they routinely duck MIAA teams, year in and year out? Not bashing the team, just pointing out that the stories just don't match the results on the field. [/quote]

They don't win because the coaching is terrible and because of the politics are out of control...

there is an argument to be made for admissions. The same reason a school like ND struggles against Alabama in football. There are many more boys but they are not all athletes. Some are just students and maybe just maybe your school doesn't come close academically. We'll never know unless you post the name. Will you?

more Chaminade posts please? this blog absolutely carries this website.
very entertaining stuff.

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