BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2020- 9th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017

Congratulations! you figured it out. If you want to play High Level D1 you will graduate college at age 23-24. This is fact look at the rosters. If you are 21 and graduating top D1 you are
1 in a million type player.
its just the way it is.

You guys have an FCA 2020 commit going to UNC born Jan 2000.
that's fair right.

You cannot use a calendar year to indicate on grade - most school systems have cutoff dates anywhere from Sep to Dec. My son has Dec 2002 DOB and is appropriately an on age 2021. Otherwise, I agree that the holdback/reclass trend is rediculous.

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

No mistake at all .. Right FCA mom who is in denial that FCA doesn't cheat. The Christian fellowship assess the kids maturity level every year and if they feel they aren't mature enough they hold them back.

So ridiculous if true. My 2018 son was born in May 2000! It's one thing when you have kids who are close to the cutoff who start Kindergarten a year late, but kids being held back with this kind of age difference is shameful unless there is a truly an academic reason.

When are you people going to stop crying about holdbacks? It is what it is, US Lacrosse has given the message that they will not fixing this anytime soon, which is why I stopped renewing my childrens memberships (yes you can still register for tounaments using your old number). ALL the clubs condone and encourage holdbacks. You are fighting a loosing battle. You should put your energy into getting your kid recruited. Plenty of on age kids have college commitments, including my own.

To the poster above who said we should stop crying about holdbacks and worry about getting our sons recruited - some thoughts for you:

The issue of reclassification is bigger than your son or my son getting recruited. The uneven playing field that is created in youth lacrosse by not being age based is damaging the integrity of the game. Having 16 year old 8th graders play against pre-pubescent 13 year olds does nothing but help keep this sport in the category of a rich kid's hobby. It needs to be changed and US Lacrosse has provided the guidelines on how they are going to address it. We will see what happens.

It's great that your son has a verbal commitment. I mean that sincerely. It's a real accomplishment in this crazy new world - particularly if he is on age. Please understand that until he signs his letter of intent it is meaningless. Your kid has a slot reserved for him on a team 4 years from now. Injury, social media mistakes, academics, coaching changes all can burn the dream down in a hurry. DONT count your chickens.

I have 4 kids - 1 played D1 lacrosse, another played D3. One has a National Championship ring. The other two are under 10 and play for competitive club teams. Youth lacrosse now is a shadow of itself and it is largely because of early recruiting and reclassification run amok.

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

[quote=Anonymous]For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

Who exactly is the negative crowd? The crowd that is pointing out the painfully obvious damage to youth lacrosse caused by reclassing, early recruiting, etc? Truth hurts.

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

[quote=Anonymous]For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

And there we have the usual attitude of most of the early committed crowd of which many- not all - are holdbacks. This will all catch up and even out over the next 3 years as many of those who peaked early are surpassed and replaced on these lists by kids whose grades are just as good as their stick skills and were just late bloomers or on age players. Plenty of room and plenty of movement will still take place with the best players whether early commits or not, ending up in the best slots. A school is not going to turn down the best players because they verbally committed a 9th grader that peaked in the 8th or 9th grade. No worries the uncommitted kids are actually in the better position - all upside potential.

That's RICH

Maverick conflicts with Crab Feast for 2020s/19s. As much as I hate to say it - Fat Crab puts on a [lacrosse] of a tournament. More College coaches in one place than any tournament I have ever seen.

Maverick conflicts with Crab Feast for 2020s/19s. As much as I hate to say it - Fat Crab puts on a [lacrosse] of a tournament. More College coaches in one place than any tournament I have ever seen.

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

You probably shouldn't be so quick to assume that all early commits are knitwhits and make crummy grades. My son is an early commit and takes grades more seriously than anything. He studies very hard and makes straight A's in honors classes. His lacrosse skills and fitness are a close second and he works extremely hard at both. He absolutely earned his early commitment spot after years of being the youngest, smallest kid on ALL of his youth lax teams. So enough about being forced to compete with kids who may be older or bigger. Kids in that position should take it as an opportunity to push themselves because that's exactly what it is when you're younger and smaller. In fact, a younger, smaller kid who is hungry and willing to work hard has much more of an opportunity to improve than the older, bigger kids.

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.