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Both of these posts are absolutely correct. Public school parents of very good players (not the 'great' player) have a bit of a dilemma if their son ever has hopes of playing at a D1. Just looking at D1 rosters filled with prep school players is all you need to know. (There are a few exceptions of course)

With few tourneys in Westchester, fall Pumpkin Shootout tourney was a good thing. Decent turnout of teams and players from the area. As this board has noted impossible to get local clubs to play one another but events like this one help.

So we didn't have to drive 5 hours each way to play three short games in MD? I heard the Pumpkin Shootout was well run, congrats.

So you didn't have to drive 5 hours, but played a weak [lacrosse] tournament and created a link for it? Pathetic

2024 had igloo and outlaw select. 2 better than average teams It would be nice to see express north and primetime join in.

So what's pathetic about it? Yes I get it. Your son is the number one recruit out of Westchester, just waiting for that full scholarship to Johns Hopkins, and you personally enjoy sitting at the Delaware Mem. Bridge, but you know for the rest of us out there with mere B players compared to your superstar a few well run local tournaments is just what this area needs.

Westchester can certainly be the base for a few very well run tournaments. Canada, Massachusetts, LI....all shorter drives than MD. I hope we see more of these.

Any local club teams going to the Yale tournament. I believe Predators will be there. How about any high school teams?

Good showing by Westchester teams this weekend. Both Primetime and Preds 2020s go 3-0 at Adrenaline DE.

How did CT Chargers 2020 do?

They only lost to 2019 Prime Time, I'm sorry, I meant 2020 Prime Time......

How many holdbacks on 2020 PT?

Everybody has a couple. Is PT particularly 'old'?

As organizations, both did well. Both had teams playing in 2020, 2019 and 2018. Each team played three games. Preds went 8-1 and PT went 7-1-1

Dosnt sound like a very competitive tournament to have 2 local teams dominate like that, unless all the scores were tight games.

Out of all the programs in the area it is clear that Eclipse is in the top recruiting events..for 2020
NLF 2020
Big 4
NLF fall team

I would have thought a different big program North but they are not in ANY of the top 2020 events.

Why do you say that? Do you know the quality of the teams that they played? Can you say definitively that any of those teams they played are or are not good quality teams? Every year teams change their rosters. Its a well respected tournament with lots of teams wanting to participate. The Westchester teams did pretty well. No one is saying they are the best in the nation. Why belittle the accomplishment?

My guess is that Eclipse and North will be at overlapping events next summer. Should be a good matchup as both teams appear strong IMO but have very different styles of play.

Eclipse 2020 will continue to lose around 80% of their games against NLF teams. They are not a strong team at all.

How are the styles of play different between Eclipse and North?

If North keeps getting blocked out of NLF events because of the other top 2 or 3 LIE teams then maybe some kids will move to Eclipse to reap the benefits of being a NLF member club.

This doesnt happen at all at the older age groups

Of course it does. 21, 20

maybe Trump will ban holdbacks...will give 99% of the people on this board nothing to complain about!

Older than 2020 would be 18s and 19s - they are in all the NLF events

I would argue that after top 2020 LIE team from LI, 2020 North team is second best within the Express umbrella.

Why do you believe the NLF events define what teams/organizations are good?

Why are you assuming that 2020 North is blocked out when the 18's and 19's North teams are there? Maybe they are not going this weekend for other reasons. North is a charter member of the NLF, while Eclipse just joined. Makes no sense that Eclipse would get the nod and North get shut out

Because they believe the hype.

True, it makes no sense but Eclipse 2020 was at Boys Latin (NLF)
and is going to Fall elite Invitational (NLF). Exp North 2020 is not at either. Eclipse also at Big4 this weekend with other top teams and I only see LIE on the schedule. so it seems LIE North is not getting in for whatever reasons. Maybe just 1 team allowed per event? Would be nice to see them compete with the top tier teams or is Eclipse that much better?

Preds 2020s putting together something special. Last fall 7-1 with only loss to Crush. Summer 17-2-1. This fall 6-0. Combined 30-2-1 in Fall/Summer/Fall. We'll see this weekend at Philly Freshman how they match up agains better competition, but in two decent (non NLF) tourneys this fall something like a 50 goal differential over 6 games. Competition wasn't tough, but they can only play the teams they play. Good team got better this fall. Certainly best 2020 in Westchester and should be able to play anywhere.

Preds are a solid team and will face a test this weekend. Let's see how it turns out before we announce the emergence of a super power.

How did Eclipse do at Big 4 last weekend?

Eclipse 2021 got their [lacrosse] kicked but I'm sure they were missing players.

Eclipse was missing 15 players..lets see this weekend with team back at NLF

Missing 15 players? How did they even play then? There are only 18 kids on the top 2021 roster and then talent level drops off with second team....

Brought B team kids..

Will preds sweep agaian this weekend?

Next Level
BBL
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Lots of local teams playing at Yale this weekend. Should be a good time: 3D Tristate, Primetime, Chargers, Predators, House of Sports, Westchester warriors, Superstar. Good luck to all.

Is BBL a good team?

The holdback issue came full circle this weekend. The LI Express 2019 team beat the Ed*e team from Canada and it wasn't very close. They played dirty after being down 3-4 goals early and were never in the game. But, what stood out to me was how some of these kids used to be so physically imposing and were now just cheap shot artists who could no longer compete with kids who have caught up in development. Yes, they are still a year or two older but it doesn't matter anymore. No one needs to wonder why programs like Hopkins have been struggling, they have been recruiting kids like these and hoping it works out. The JH commit was hitting kids late and futility slashing. The kids said their coach apologized after the game for the cheap shots but regardless, the page has turned on that team. The result of playing against younger kids is standing out in the short term, so I guess until colleges stop recruiting so early, this will continue.