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You are putting Fairfield in same sentence with Mercey and SUNY. Ridiculous

50 K??? Where the heck do you play? Not even remotely close. 2k a year for about 4 years. Maybe one more year of travel. Sounds like you got beat bad by a smart travel director.

IT is well worth it

SUNY D3's Plattsburgh, Farmingdale, Oneonta, Cortland Buffalo, New Paltz Oswego Geneseo

Where LI kids go to play after spending $50k on travel lacrosse

All very good schools. From my experience, you get out of your education what you put into it. One of my closest friends is a Plattsburgh grad and lax alumni and very successful Wall Street vet. He got a great education, loved playing lacrosse there and parents didn't mortgage the house to pay for it. Some friends from much more prestigious university's are far less successful. Work ethic can take you very far on the field and in your career.

Anecdotal evidence is nice. The odds are not in favor of your argument tho. I will bet on the outcome of 50 Harvard lax grads over the outcome of 50 Plattsburgh lax grads. And i will also bet that on average the 50 harvard lax grads have better work ethics than the 50 Plattsburgh grads.

its no Chaminade, but the Harvard kids are pretty well regarded

Better work ethic because theygo to Harvard?? Because are smarter or have more money they work harder? That one is a leap

No.

It's because a significant amount of both native smarts and conscientiousness (very similar to "work ethic") are required in order for a student to gain admittance to Harvard, even for a recruited athlete with lower academic standards.

Ivies, like most research universities do not really give too much of a darn about undergrads. Large classes, largely taught by graduate students, with minimal office hours/facetime with the professor. Now, graduate school is a different story, but undergrad...meh...hard NOT to get an A average at Harvard.

Excerpt from Business Journal's hardest schools to fail out of:

Though it consistently sits atop US News and World Report's College Ranking List, Harvard College, the undergraduate school at Harvard University, is as known for its rampant grade inflation as it is for its prestige.

A record 91% of Harvard undergraduate students graduated summa, magna, or [lacrosse] laude. And USA Today reported that eight out of every 10 Harvard students graduate with honors, with nearly half receiving A's in their courses.

Ivies, like most research universities do not really give too much of a darn about undergrads. Large classes, largely taught by graduate students, with minimal office hours/facetime with the professor. Now, graduate school is a different story, but undergrad...meh...hard NOT to get an A average at Harvard.

Excerpt from Business Journal's hardest schools to fail out of:

Though it consistently sits atop US News and World Report's College Ranking List, Harvard College, the undergraduate school at Harvard University, is as known for its rampant grade inflation as it is for its prestige.

A record 91% of Harvard undergraduate students graduated summa, magna, or [lacrosse] laude. And USA Today reported that eight out of every 10 Harvard students graduate with honors, with nearly half receiving A's in their courses.

Better work ethic because theygo to Harvard?? Because are smarter or have more money they work harder? That one is a leap

Ivies, like most research universities do not really give too much of a darn about undergrads. Large classes, largely taught by graduate students, with minimal office hours/facetime with the professor. Now, graduate school is a different story, but undergrad...meh...hard NOT to get an A average at Harvard.

Excerpt from Business Journal's hardest schools to fail out of:

Though it consistently sits atop US News and World Report's College Ranking List, Harvard College, the undergraduate school at Harvard University, is as known for its rampant grade inflation as it is for its prestige.

A record 91% of Harvard undergraduate students graduated summa, magna, or [lacrosse] laude. And USA Today reported that eight out of every 10 Harvard students graduate with honors, with nearly half receiving A's in their courses.

I have personal experience with Harvard. Those admitted have very high GPAs and very high SATs. They are incredibly bright. On the other hand, the workload is generally not particularly challenging and one can easily skate by and there is very little academic accountability. Don't want to go to class? You do not have to for the most part. And the large classes, like most large universities, are taught by GA's and have multiple choice exams.

This is not Williams nor is it Swarthmore nor Washington and Lee (insert any number of GREAT liberal arts colleges here) and it sure is not a service academy where the demands are around the clock and they will happily give you a C or D or F. You are paying for prestige as an undergrad.

Now, graduate school? That is an entirely different matter.

I have personal experience with Williams and who are you kidding? I skipped classes constantly and did just fine thank you very much.

Yeah.

Right.

Anyone have any personal experience with Georgian Court? Has anyone been offered $$ and if so at what % and how is the school? Prefer to hear from those who know rather than guess please, thanks

Isn't it safe to say you can find ways to skate through at every school?

[quote=Anonymous]Holy Cross offered my son a roster spot, no money. How can they build a power program, investing $100mm++ on facilities and still only have three scholarships total? Didn't really have the best experience in the recruiting process. I like straight forward answers to my questions, liked to keep things vague. No thanks. Sharing my experience.

Interesting. My son is an early commit (2020) to top 5 program. We were very direct in asking the following questions: 1.) we are here at your invitation, where are we on your priority list by position? 2.) Is this a scholarship athlete in your opinion? 3.) Answer to #2 being yes, what is the money?
Coaches appreciate the no BS approach. Nobody really has time for a dance of fools......

Holy Cross offered my son a roster spot, no money. How can they build a power program, investing $100mm++ on facilities and still only have three scholarships total? Didn't really have the best experience in the recruiting process. I like straight forward answers to my questions, liked to keep things vague. No thanks. Sharing my experience.