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Good luck with her professional lacrosse career

should have gotten her off the wall and into the library dad

Mom or Dad - not to call out a kid but something doesn't add up with a 90 average and 1000 SAT.

A 90 average would equate to anywhere between a 4.0 to 3.75 cumulative GPA depending on the grade point scale of school.

Maybe the schools could explain away low SAT test score and pitch she had the GPA. But many of the high academic schools don't set the bar as low as you suggest. The average is the team average, so it's the sum of all vs. comparing the two. But NW, ND, GTown want more than 1200 - know that for sure. UNC and UMD not so much, but what you don't reference is your "stud" wasn;t asked to take the SAT numerous times - which if it's true it was a 1000, they would of made you take the SAT and/or ACT repeatedly to get the score up.

I laugh at the implied notion this were the schools considered, because clearly all of those schools don't operate that way. Nor do all those schools play of the game of extending an offer, regardless of the studliness, if they are all "involved."

whoa...geoergetown, ND, Northwestern would take her with 100 SAT. that's got to be a misprint.

what a fraud. even if you generously concede a 90. that's at best a 3.5. 1000 on SAT is not very strong. please don't insult the readers.

I mean 1000 has got to be a misprint.

Can we share what schools have verbals from 2020s? Nice to know who is actively recruiting.

From what I've seen so far it's UNC, MD, Boston College, Syracuse, Hopkins and James Madison.

UVA

LMAO bravo everyone! I needed a good laugh

the college sports scene is as corrupt as everything else, UNC was cooking the books for athletes over an 18 year period before the scandal came to light and I'm sure it wasn't only them

Don't forget Hofstra

and nothing is going to happen to them for it... a slap on the wrist at best.

Please explain to us, what should happen?

50% or more of the students who were given "A's" for taking fantom courses in African American Studies were not athletes. The university created the curriculum so that "STUDENTS" who were admitted to the university with sup par academic credentials could maintain a 2.0 GPA. Students were given "A's" in order to keep their GPS's up. Not all of the students were athletes. The vast majority of student athletes were football and mens basketball players.

Please ask the NCAA to let us all know how many men's and women's lacrosse players at UNC received "A's" in African American Studies during during that 18 year period.

You are a puts and a troll.

That's [lacrosse] with a capital P you j--- A--.

There is NO LI team that beat YJ 2022 Blue! There might of been another club that beat Gold..

thats the job of the md clubs, and they do it well and often

You're a little sensitive there Sally. No one said anything about womens lacrosse at UNC. The statement was "cooking the books for athletes" which clearly happened for a brief 18 years. The "program" should be penalized, but it won't. Other teams have seen post season bans, loss of scholarship, vacated wins etc... for much, much less. But I guess if they allowed the regular students to cheat too than it wasn't preferential treatment to the athletes....wild logic.

They may be a little sensitive but you are a little ignorant. The "program" was penalized, they did lose scholorships,they did have wins vacated, they did have a post season ban etc..The logic is that the NCAA should regulate athletics not school curriculum and academics and if the easy "A" classes were equally available to all students it is not an athletic issue but an accreditation issue which the NCAA has no jurisdiction over. Its actually a logical and legally interesting argument.

College coaches suggest to the vast majority of kids what are the preferred majors of the program. Anyone that doesn't acknowledge that has their head in the sand. Coaches are only interested in their teams eligibility and team gpa. They could care less if sally wants to be an engineer. Take communications, get a 3.0 without showing up and play lax 6 hours a day

Just know that getting a degree in lacrosse does not help you later in life. My kids are older now and I see a number of young ladies my daughter played with who have degrees in lesser majors or some with no degrees at all but have no college eligibility left who are unfortunately struggling. Please keep the big picture in mind when guiding your daughters. Playing a sport in college is not a life long career. A solid major with an impressive GPA is. And yes my daughter was fortunate and worked hard enough to do both.

Where and When was the program penalized for this current indiscretion ? It hasnt....stop making excuses. The original comment ( not by me ) was accurate. Accept that your school cheated academically in the interest of its sports teams and should be punished.

Who cares, move on

you are ridiculously cynical and wrong at least in our experience. Our daughter is committed to a top 10 university that has been ranked in the top 10 in lacrosse the last few years. Sh has been committed for well over a year. This has never come up with the coaches. Have also talked to girls on the team and this has never come up. Urban myth from jealous parents whose kids aren't committed.

The previous poster has a point. My kid is D1 at a top school and most of the kids have dropped out of their preferred major because it's too hard to persue the more challenging majors with the rigors of being a D1 athlete. You'll see . There is a trade off

Very glad it worked out for your daughter but go look at the rosters. When most colleges top majors are taken by 10-20 percent of kids why on some teams do 80% of the team take the same "weak" major? The players choice of majors don't reflect that of the student body at large. YES there are exceptions but more athletes than not take easier majors then non student athletes.

I've had multiple children play various D1 sports and it is true that they will get steered toward majors that don't mess with the sport.

Top Ten Universities that also have DI Women's Lacrosse.

1 - Princeton
2 - Harvard
3 - Yale
5- Columbia
5 - Stanford
8 - Duke
8 - Penn
10 - Johns Hopkins

Duke, Princeton & Penn Stanford have all been ranked in the Top 10 in recent years. Hopkins is consistently ranked in the Top 20. Columbia, Yale and Harvard also have competitive programs.

Princeton has won three National Championships. Duke has been knocking on the door. Penn has made it to championship weekend more than once and is also bringing in some very good recruits. Stanford is consistently improving.

Dartmouth is ranked 11 academically and has fielded competitive women's lacrosse teams in the past.

I would bet that there are plenty of women playing lacrosse at those schools who are also enrolled in and excelling in a major of their choice.

Congratulations to your daughter and best of luck. I am sure she will make the most of her college education and experience.

Yes, if their major is Basket Weaving! But I'm sure a BW degree from Princeton will take you further than one from Stony Brook

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I've had multiple children play various D1 sports and it is true that they will get steered toward majors that don't mess with the sport. [/quote]

This isn't just a top 10 university thing. Go look at rosters in the middle of the D1 pack. There is nothing wrong with it but parents just need to be informed that it does happen. The kid that wanted to be an engineer amazingly changes to an exercise science major with the rest of her team so she can go to the school and stay eligible to play lacrosse. Good luck driving a golf cart around as an athletic trainer making $35k the rest of your life

Another jealous, bitter, ignorant moron.

There are some schools, Princeton being one where there are no classes or any academic activities that require attendance during the time when all athletes practice. It is my understanding that all extra curricular activities (band, theater, dance, varsity sports etc..) all take place at the same time. Students are free to choose whatever field of study they want without having to worry about a class or a lab interfering with their practice time.

Keep telling yourself that the girls who choose to challenge themselves will not be successful. Female student athletes who graduate from places like Duke, Penn, Princeton, Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Hopkins, Columbia and a host of others will be "recruited" by employers. If they choose to go straight to grad school they will have great options as well.

Go back under your rock.

It's "farther" not "further" moron. But it's fashionable to be dumb in this country now, right?

Ivy league doesn't apply to 95% of lax players. Those kids and those schools are special and it will always be academics first

Now you people living in fantasy land that believe coaches at non ivy schools don't push kids into certain majors go look at the National Champs North Carolina Roster- 12 excercise science, 11 undeclared, 10 communications, 1, history, 1 psych, 1 sociology, 1 geography, 1 economics, 1 nursing

Great degree from a great school but it looks like they are there to major in lacrosse and win a national championship which they did

What undergraduate degrees do you deem acceptable? You are a jack a--.

Undergrad degrees matter little. Those girls had the time of their lives I bet.

Just a guess but maybe Economics, Science, Engineering, Medical. Communications is always listed as the easiest major just google it. Don't be a hater. My kid cant get into UNC but has been through the process. Please go look at the rosters. Yes there will be a handful of kids taking really challenging majors on any team but on many many teams you will see 75 85% of the team taking the same, suggested courses. You guys that defend it so hard like it doesn't exist sound like you might be someone who was talked into foregoing an engineering degree just so she could play.

yvr1tbprobably did and believe it or not there are a lot of Doctors and Lawyers with those degrees

Let it go. The rosters don't lie. D1 players in all sports are guided into certain majors to keep them eligible. Coaches just want them to play.

Hopefully you don't sell your daughter out, There is always a place to play and always a school that will let you take the major of your dreams

How many kids have you had play D1 sports? I bet none. So I'm pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about. I've had 2. Never have we had a discussion with the coaching staffs about their suggestions for majors. Nor have my kids. Are there tradeoffs that have to made to pursue certain majors, absolutely. For example, if you want to pursue premed or science-based majors, you may likely need to take labs over the summer. But those decisions have been made by our kids, not by the coaches. Maybe there are SOME D1 schools that force certain majors on kids, but not true for all. So stop stating that D1 programs are all like that. Likely your kid wasn't good enough to play. Got it.

Then why even play school lacrosse , you sound like you have a kid who was not good at lax and equally hideous in the classroom . You come on here to knock kids who have reached the highest level doing something they live , you sound like a pathetic loser . If my kid wants to pursue her dream of trying to win a national title then go on to med/ law/ business/ dental / vet/ etc school but it takes an extra grad school year , who cares she is living her dream . Keep telling your kid she is not good enough to have it all ,and she will reach for nothing .

Poster forgot every kid on here will compete for a national championship or go to an ivy. Nobody on here will have their daughter go to a mid level D1 lacrosse school. Can't argue with parents of a Shannon