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Just be careful of your next year. You may enjoy Crabs at the 7th grade level, but the 8th grade level with Ryan M at the lead is horrible. Too many stories to tell here. Sure, a few parents appear to be happy since the end goal is to get committed to college, but the rest of the players are just pawns in their game.

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They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two….they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!


How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.


My kid has played up for the last three years and he is absolutely better for it. The point of youth lacrosse, especially at the middle school level, is to prepare kids for what they will see in high school. It is absolutely unrealistic to get your panties in a wad about a kid who is a few weeks or months older than the 9/1 date. I agree with the other comment about the fact that there is no rule that has been broken if kids are completing a pre-first year. They are playing with their class. It's just flat out soft to complain about it.

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They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two….they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!


How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.


My kid has played up for the last three years and he is absolutely better for it. The point of youth lacrosse, especially at the middle school level, is to prepare kids for what they will see in high school. It is absolutely unrealistic to get your panties in a wad about a kid who is a few weeks or months older than the 9/1 date. I agree with the other comment about the fact that there is no rule that has been broken if kids are completing a pre-first year. They are playing with their class. It's just flat out soft to complain about it.


You miss the point of youth sports. Lacrosse is the only sport that somehow justifies letting a select group of older children play down.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth.. First you say your son is playing up and everyone else should man up. But for some reason that does not apply to the kids that are the heldback and oldest. Any reason they shouldnt man up?? They are not just older than everyone by a few weeks . They would be only that much older if everyone was born on Sept 1...Most kids are born in the entire 12 month period..So these holdbacks are anywhere from 1-12 months older the majority of kids at the very minimum. With many being 4 to 16 months older.

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They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two….they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!


How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.


My kid has played up for the last three years and he is absolutely better for it. The point of youth lacrosse, especially at the middle school level, is to prepare kids for what they will see in high school. It is absolutely unrealistic to get your panties in a wad about a kid who is a few weeks or months older than the 9/1 date. I agree with the other comment about the fact that there is no rule that has been broken if kids are completing a pre-first year. They are playing with their class. It's just flat out soft to complain about it.


You miss the point of youth sports. Lacrosse is the only sport that somehow justifies letting a select group of older children play down.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth.. First you say your son is playing up and everyone else should man up. But for some reason that does not apply to the kids that are the heldback and oldest. Any reason they shouldnt man up?? They are not just older than everyone by a few weeks . They would be only that much older if everyone was born on Sept 1...Most kids are born in the entire 12 month period..So these holdbacks are anywhere from 1-12 months older the majority of kids at the very minimum. With many being 4 to 16 months older.


I think you're misinformed like all of the complainers about holdbacks. Lacrosse is not the only sport. You are comparing club lacrosse to rec basketball, football, etc. Rec lacrosse is age based. Don't say the problem is lacrosse, trying to damage the reputation of the sport I'm assuming your son plays. The proper comparison would be club lacrosse to AAU basketball and Grassroots football and other similar club level leagues (most of which are grade based). If you don't like club lacrosse, move to an aged based league, just like those who prefer rec over AAU or Grassroots football.

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Any fall leagues starting?

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They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two….they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!


How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.


My kid has played up for the last three years and he is absolutely better for it. The point of youth lacrosse, especially at the middle school level, is to prepare kids for what they will see in high school. It is absolutely unrealistic to get your panties in a wad about a kid who is a few weeks or months older than the 9/1 date. I agree with the other comment about the fact that there is no rule that has been broken if kids are completing a pre-first year. They are playing with their class. It's just flat out soft to complain about it.


You miss the point of youth sports. Lacrosse is the only sport that somehow justifies letting a select group of older children play down.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth.. First you say your son is playing up and everyone else should man up. But for some reason that does not apply to the kids that are the heldback and oldest. Any reason they shouldnt man up?? They are not just older than everyone by a few weeks . They would be only that much older if everyone was born on Sept 1...Most kids are born in the entire 12 month period..So these holdbacks are anywhere from 1-12 months older the majority of kids at the very minimum. With many being 4 to 16 months older.


I think you're misinformed like all of the complainers about holdbacks. Lacrosse is not the only sport. You are comparing club lacrosse to rec basketball, football, etc. Rec lacrosse is age based. Don't say the problem is lacrosse, trying to damage the reputation of the sport I'm assuming your son plays. The proper comparison would be club lacrosse to AAU basketball and Grassroots football and other similar club level leagues (most of which are grade based). If you don't like club lacrosse, move to an aged based league, just like those who prefer rec over AAU or Grassroots football.


Talking about Youth....Soccer with many times more people playing and more popular along with many more opportunities is age base. They have a worldwide age based system that US follows. Competitive Baseball is age base. I dont know what Football u have seen , but all competitive Football in Texas and Florida is Age based along with other states. Grass roots lets several grades compete but you always get to be older one day..

AAU just went to grade base along with age base and it is a complete mess. You think the vitriol is bad here..go to any site discussing this.There are Facebook pages dedicated to restore the system back to age. Several top AAU programs will not compete against other grade base programs.

So just one of your examples is TRYING to go grade base and it is worst than lacrosse due to the participation of many more children.

I am not damaging lacrosse by insisting grade base is wrong at youth level. The damage is coming from a system that allows select certain players to be older than anyone else.Playing down with select kids goes against all youth lacrosse stands for. Doesnt take much Common sense to figure that out.School teams are were you can get your advantage.

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Good luck to all the teams ! Exciting time for the kids with new teammates and old ones. Very compettive group . Holdbacks or not , Im glad my kid gets tested all year in a great sport. Good luck to all the coaches that put in the time with our kids to make them better along with listening to parents whine an cry all year long, who think they know more than them. Good luck to refs who deal with it all from inside the lines to outside the lines.
Good luck to all the parents out there who think their child is the next Rabil .
#letthemplay
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The Bethesda 2021 boy who is now with Crabs 2022 is a 2022 and is a 2022 by birthdate A September 2003 - just been playing up a grade - since 1st grade - now on grade.

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More cannons moving to the Hawks? Saw a bunch at tryouts did they all make it?

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RR picking up a few kids


Picked up some Diamondback's.


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RR picking up a few kids


Picked up some Diamondback's.



did the dad coaches go with them?

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More cannons moving to the Hawks? Saw a bunch at tryouts did they all make it?



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So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
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More cannons moving to the Hawks? Saw a bunch at tryouts did they all make it?



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Lol. I love how this guy keeps asking about the Hawks? Im sure when one of their dads or players comes on here you will get your answer. Until then , Best bet is to assume they will be very good like last year.

And what does it matter where they picked up players. Looks like all teams have swapped players here and there.


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So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
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FCA
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Crabs? Bethesda?

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So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
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Crabs? Bethesda?


Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

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So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
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FCA
MadLax
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Crabs? Bethesda?


Dont forget MM team 9 and 1 team

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So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR








Crabs? Bethesda?


Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.


So the fact that Crabs was 4-0 last year against FCA and RR doesn't put them above them on your list?

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[quote=Anonymous]So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
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Crabs? Bethesda?


Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Its funny, Crabs easily beats both FCA and RR yet their record speaks for itself ???? When did your son get cut from Crabs?

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So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR








Crabs? Bethesda?


Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.


Hawks
API
MadLax
Crabs
89+2
RR
FCA

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MADLAX didn't do anything in tournaments at all even after consolidating holdbacks and money machine into one super power flop of a tourney team

Team Maryland lost by 10 to the Hawks end of the year. Bethesda 4-0-1 at NLF.
FCA/RR - pick up any crabs?

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[quote=Anonymous]So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR








Crabs? Bethesda?


Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Its funny, Crabs easily beats both FCA and RR yet their record speaks for itself ???? When did your son get cut from Crabs?



relax fat crab ! this was just a best guess! mix the bottom of that list any way you want. Crabs did not compete against the top half of that list! Period!

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[quote=Anonymous]So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR








Crabs? Bethesda?


Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Its funny, Crabs easily beats both FCA and RR yet their record speaks for itself ???? When did your son get cut from Crabs?


Classic reply. Throw the bait in water and the Crabs can't help themselves .. Hilarious

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So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR








Crabs? Bethesda?


Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.


Hawks
API
MadLax
Crabs
89+2
RR
FCA


FCA beat 89+2 and API last year. The fact is all these teams can beat one another. It's good that things are competitive. No reason ranking them in September. It's stupid.

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So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?


Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR








Crabs? Bethesda?


Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.


Hawks
API
MadLax
Crabs
89+2
RR
FCA


FCA beat 89+2 and API last year. The fact is all these teams can beat one another. It's good that things are competitive. No reason ranking them in September. It's stupid.



Agreed its stupid. But it is also a lot of fun. these guys can't wait to jump on a list that means absolutely nothing.

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Best guess for the up coming season

FCA
Hawks
Crabs
API
Madlax

Top 5

Last year means nothing.

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Who did Hawks add this year?


Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.


I heard api added 6 new dads to the sideline.


That's all? No wonder they are having supplemental tryouts. Still some unclaimed lime green whistle lanyards.


Ok haters. You need to come up with some new material. API roster has been set. Supplementals for a combined 22/23 Second team. No more dad coaches anymore, yes shocking but true. And haven't seen lanyards since 5th grade. Love all the attention but the jokes are tired...I'm sure you can be wittier, just try harder

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MadlaZ stunk it up in HoCo. And they have a dad coaching his son. So much for professional coaching. Doesn't belong on list.

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MADLAX didn't do anything in tournaments at all even after consolidating holdbacks and money machine into one super power flop of a tourney team

Team Maryland lost by 10 to the Hawks end of the year. Bethesda 4-0-1 at NLF.
FCA/RR - pick up any crabs?


RR got at least 1 crab.

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Best guess for the up coming season

FCA
Hawks
Crabs
API
Madlax

Top 5

Last year means nothing.



Not sure how last year can mean nothing? Especially if teams only got stronger.
No problem with this list . Hawks however did beat FCA overtime they played .

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MadlaZ stunk it up in HoCo. And they have a dad coaching his son. So much for professional coaching. Doesn't belong on list.




They did beat Crabs pretty good in playoffs, because the crabs stink too.

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No one left Hawks for another team.

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Good try Dbags dad but you know those sweet neck lanyards of precious, the matching coffee tumbler mugs, and team moms hitting on other team dads is alive and well. Keep rocking that matching game day gear. So much to enjoy besides the actual game. Laughing at you soon.

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Lol. Right

Arden lost to the Cannons

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Will Hawks have a second team this year?

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Crabs barely have a a first team smile But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

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Crabs barely have a a first team smile But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....


Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

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Will Hawks have a second team this year?



Look at their website---

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Crabs barely have a a first team smile But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....


Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.


Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

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Crabs barely have a a first team smile But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....


Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.


Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.




They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

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