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Takes and gets are different.

Kid (and yes parents) gets and deserves credit, absolutely. Who else deserves credit who knows. Maybe other family members; siblings, aunts, uncles cousins. Youth Coach maybe but not always, please stop that. Be proud you coached the player, player should always give thanks and S/O to youth coach but to take credit not so sure. Club coaches maybe a bit more depending on the club, HS not sure this day and age.

Imploded? Far from it. That's the problem with rumors.

Who gets credit? Are you serious? Is there any chance a few of you meatheads can celebrate the accomplishments of the youth in our area as opposed to always sniping and decrying and turning everything into a negative thread?

Congrats to the Yorktown kid, I'm sure he worked hard, practiced his butt off and got plenty of great coaching. Congrats to Yorktown, a lacrosse powerhouse that keeps producing lacrosse talent.

always appreciate when a self righteous Archie Bunker type scolds the forum. No one belittled the accomplishments of the early recruit and , if one took the time to read the thread, it began with a discussion about the Yorktown Ballers and their influence on the dominance of the Yorktown HS program. But in this recent age of early recruitment, club teams obviously play a role and they certainly like to promote and advertise how many commitments they have. In this case , I believe Express North.

My son was offered a spot on Express North 2021A. He played somewhere else last summer and it was not great. Recognizing that this is really a B team I am concerned about paying big money to find out that the team is horrendous. I don't need it to be AA ball but I need it not to suck. Any insight on that team?

What is your sons position? (it matters)

From experience with North 2020 A, it will depend on the coaches, ours were a bit more rah rah than the intensity of the AA, which was fine for our team. I'm guessing will be playing in the more local tournaments of LI and Ct. and will be one of the better teams at those tournaments. Personally, wouldn't look at it as a B team, although it is the second team of Express North. The coaching is more 'adult' (age wise) than other Westchester programs. My son didn't make either AA or A this year, despite the cost Express North's reputation and talent is only getting stronger compared to other Northern Westchester programs

Mid. By what should that matter if I'm trying to gauge the team?

Are you looking for your son to be recruited, or just play at a higher level and improve his skills?

If you are looking for your son to improve his skills, you need to know the credentials of the "A" coach and weigh that against any alternatives your son may have.

If you are looking for your son to get recruited, you need to find out what tournaments the team will play in. For the most part, the level of tournaments an "A" team is entered into will not attract many college coaches.

Regardless of the team strength, middies and defense will see plenty of action. Sometimes attack on weaker teams rarely see the ball. So, if game experience matters, middies will always be in the mix. Are coaches experienced and committed? My oldest played on a team years ago that had two of the top players fresh out of college coaching the team and they didn't yet know how to coach. Great former players that needed to learn the coaching aspect of the game.

He also plays for Yorktown Ballers.

Strong potential for them to suck. You just never know. Some chatter among the AA 2021 parents that some kids on the AA team because of politics/relationships and not for ability.

Express North 2021 is a mid level B team...don't be fooled.

Absolutely not true.

And you know this because?

Prime Time 2020 could just as well be called PT2020 Re-Classified next summer, except for maybe 3 or 4 kids, made up of all hold-backs. Should have a better record this time around.

Problem is with reclass at this age is...
If you couldn't make it at 2019 you probably just not thay good.

Because the first tournament of the summer at HHH in Pa. They got shellacked, after that the coach put the team in A level brackets. Nothing wrong with putting the kids in brackets where they will play other players comparable to their ability. Feel free to ask one of one the Ytown coaches. They are good guys building good players/team. Schreiber is doing a fantastic job at Express North.

No hold backs for PT 2021 just the best players from Greenwhich who are older than their NY counterparts.

which means they are holdbacks! I'm sure it's due to "academic" reasons in Kindergarten, lol! No worries they still won't be able to compete with the elite! Westchester kids are soft

I thought the best players from Greenwich and CT. played for Eclipse?

We won our last tournament on LI beating teams that had won other tournaments, including the Edge from Canada. The team progressed more than I've seen with any other team. Good players, good coaches= fun summer. My son is more skilled, more confident and really head and shoulders above his town teammates. The time and money has been worth it. Yes, it helps to have Yorktown guys coaching the players. They know their stuff and are passionate.

We? Are you one of the Yorktown coaches or just a dad living vicariously through his son and now considers himself on the team? How much Express clothing do you personally own?

Is this a joke? Plenty of hold backs on that team.

Exactly. Who is anyone kidding.

This team won NLF 2021B. Stop kidding yourself. While these boys played well, they did not play the better teams that were in the A division. Stop spouting off about winning a tournament on LI. Time for a reality check.

And this is exactly what's wrong with youth lacrosse today. If you're not winning AA tournaments with a team half filled with holdbacks, then you might as well not play summer lacrosse. Otherwise the Lacrosse Daddy Police will knock you back down.

Daniello should move his PT program to the Brunswick campus. Most of the holdbacks are from there, and perhaps then they would show up for the practices and clinics,instead of not making the trek to northern Westchester.

What is wrong is misleading other people about the current ability of a team. I never said lacrosse should only be played at an "AA" level. Just that you should stop exaggerating and bragging about winning a B tournament. Also, I guarantee Express North has more hold backs than any 2021 team on LI. Additionally, I understand that some kids on an "A" or "B" team will continue to grow and develop and will eventually surpass kids on "AA" teams. My only point is stop bragging and misleading readers. Only knocking you down, not your boy. Only wish the best for him and his teammates.

Look at who returned to that team. Not many players from last year and coach is gone. Imploded is a fact. 3rd coach in 3 years for that team

Proud Dad living vicariously through my son. I had my 11 years of playing lacrosse. Great experience and lifelong friends. I'm a "we" kinda guy. I guess you're a sad little guy who didn't have those great experiences? Lighten up.

You are an idiot not worthy of a serious response. This is indeed what's wrong with youth lacrosse. Adolf Lax decides what tournament wins are worthy of praise. I don't see the poster bragging nor deceiving.

Pt2021 was a low level A team and they beat Express North by more than 10 goals.

Pt just upgraded their Defense so we'll see how they do next summer. they have a very one dimensional offense...which doesn't work playing the better teams.

Typical over reaction from you again.

You should be proud. I played. Had great experiences and continue to maintain relationships with my former teammates. I'm plenty light but smart enough to know its my son's journey not mine and think it's unwise to ever make his playing a "we." It's his playing, his practice and his team. I'm just a fan who writes the checks.

Lighten up Francis.

They do in the 2021s. And by the way, that 2021 eclipse team is going to be even better this year with a few nice adds. And not holdbacks.

In 5th grade Prime Time had a proper age team and were B level. They lost to Long Island and other decent teams by a lot. They got rid of most of those players and replaced them with older kids. We saw they were an older team by looking at the World Series roster. Most of those kids would be 2020 on Long Island. Good team but older. Got better by getting older. Having said that it is more fun playing the older team than it was playing the Best kids from Greenwhich in fith grade when they where the proper age and beating them by a lot.

I'm sorry about your son not making Express North 2020 this year. . . . We are new to the program, and my son was offered a spot on the 2020AA team, and I would appreciate any candid information anyone has about that team specifically as we are very torn about leaving our current program, primarily because we are unfamiliar with LIE North since not many players from our town play for them. Get a general sense that recruiting a key focus for that club, which would be important to us at this age but also looking for a general sense of strength of team, how many returning players fro LY, any info on new coach.

I'll look for you, the dad all decked out in your Express gear.