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DO KIDS JUST SAY - IM GONNA do a pg year and then play a year down ?

My kid needs to put on some size in order to compete. He's already re-classed but he needs a bit more help. Any of these teams have a doctor on staff to administer human growth hormone?

the Primetime john jay way is great for recruiting, but horrible for the town- they have always focused on the top 5 kids in each grade and not on building the foundation of the youth program. at the younger ages in john jay- only a small fraction of kids play travel at any level. and rest do whatever. this is often a problem when travel and town are somewhat connected. kids that are not capable of playing travel will fall behind and quit at a young age, other towns are doing it smarter at the younger ages and keeping kids playing together - when a childs only instructional option outside the town season is Primetime, it makes it harder to build that foundation

Another stupid, uniformed post. Primetime and John Jay are not connected. Primetime is a business run by a former John Jay player and they take the best players, does not matter if you play for John Jay. I'm guessing your kid was cut by them....there are so many options for kids of all ages; Superstar, American Lax Academy, House of Sports, Team 91, Express North, Warriors, Brewster Sports Center, Danbury Sports...and the list goes on.
Quote " when a childs only instructional option outside the town season is Primetime, it makes it harder to build that foundation"
Well if that is the case it is a lazy parents fault, I just listed all of the above options and I'm sure I forgot some.
Another post from a C level parent that is bitter towards the world because his kid can't make an A team or a team like Primetime or Express.....May be time to move on to Choir or some non-athletic activity or just suck it up and play at the B/C level where your kid belongs.

Another stupid, uniformed post. Primetime and John Jay are not connected. Primetime is a business run by a former John Jay player and they take the best players, does not matter if you play for John Jay. I'm guessing your kid was cut by them....there are so many options for kids of all ages; Superstar, American Lax Academy, House of Sports, Team 91, Express North, Warriors, Brewster Sports Center, Danbury Sports...and the list goes on.
Quote " when a childs only instructional option outside the town season is Primetime, it makes it harder to build that foundation"
Well if that is the case it is a lazy parents fault, I just listed all of the above options and I'm sure I forgot some.
Another post from a C level parent that is bitter towards the world because his kid can't make an A team or a team like Primetime or Express.....May be time to move on to Choir or some non-athletic activity or just suck it up and play at the B/C level where your kid belongs.

Another stupid, uniformed post. Primetime and John Jay are not connected. Primetime is a business run by a former John Jay player and they take the best players, does not matter if you play for John Jay. I'm guessing your kid was cut by them....there are so many options for kids of all ages; Superstar, American Lax Academy, House of Sports, Team 91, Express North, Warriors, Brewster Sports Center, Danbury Sports...and the list goes on.
Quote " when a childs only instructional option outside the town season is Primetime, it makes it harder to build that foundation"
Well if that is the case it is a lazy parents fault, I just listed all of the above options and I'm sure I forgot some.
Another post from a C level parent that is bitter towards the world because his kid can't make an A team or a team like Primetime or Express.....May be time to move on to Choir or some non-athletic activity or just suck it up and play at the B/C level where your kid belongs.

stupid and uninformed? your on crack, lets look at the facts here - yes Prime time and John Jay youth are separate organizations. one is for profit, one is not- however they are essentially run by the same people, Daniello, Lupinacci , macmahon. all of the paid pt coaches are also the same ones coaching youth . my point regarding john jay youth is very simple- when a child is forced to seek additional instruction, he or she must pay a travel organization to get that instruction. that price is often a premium. other towns are offering additional training for a reasonable price which naturally attracts more kids given the nature of a multi sport athlete that plays more than one sport . john jay should be offering winter training, fogo, goaltending and they don't. if you want to build an empire, you need to have as many kids playing as possible for a reasonable price. it is that simple, other towns are doing it, jjyl is not . look at towns like Yorktown, garden city, Manhasset, they all try and keep the kids from the town playing together

that story is 10000000% accurate about north22 - 1/2 the team or more went to the warriors

that's funny - no one I know got special goalie training this year or fogo training from the beast and lupinacci is co director of primetime, also sits on the board of jjyl and gets paid to schedule - and jjyl is extremely expensive relative to it s peers so obviously you haven't stopped drinking the cool aid - does every grade get the Brewster winter option?

Any truth to the rumor that North 2022 team imploded over the summer? Played in B and then moved to A and got crushed so they brought in some ringers from LI to win games with 30 kids on team? Heard a bunch of kids never saw the field.....CS just trying to win games to make program look good and forcing coach to sit kids?? If true sounds terrible but somewhat expected

Well that makes a lot of sense....the top youth kids don't even play for the ballers and in HS the kids have basically been forced to play for them by Marr...but that's ok right?? No conflict there!

THE SAVASTANO BROTHERS ARE very well respected , this is their first year , it will a good program and will thrive as it becomes more established, they got a late start and still managed to put it together - don't be so negative

paid coaches is great at the older ages, but you do tend to lose the ability for that one dad or dads to keep the kiods playing together before or after the season when that paid coach, goes about his business

While you're absolutely right about a conflict of interest, that does seem to run prevalent in the lacrosse world with HS coaches running programs or coaching summer teams. Colsey/Ridgefield/Superstars Bruce/Brunswick/Two-Way Daniello/Prime-Time/JJ etc. I'd be curious to the Yorktown player and parent point of view. I just see the results of a winning (dominant?) high school program where the kids are playing the best teams on LI and Jersey while advancing to state play-off games and the top players seem to be (some early) committed to top colleges. Again, my first post had more to do with how programs (high school/summer) incorporate or improve that mid-level player...

You're absolutely right when it comes to Prime Time and Express. But it's also interesting to see how well Yorktown Ballers are placing their top players, while integrating mid level players which enables the High School to maintain it's dominance in Westchester. An interesting analysis I heard in the spring from a HS coach when Fox Lane was upset by Mahopac 2 years in a row, and John Jay not really competitive with Yorktown in recent years is part of the Prime Time Effect. (High Scoring Top recruits who are unable to play the team game when it matters most.) That being said , Prime Time does work really hard to get their players recruited which I guess in the end matters the most.

While you're absolutely right about a conflict of interest, that does seem to run prevalent in the lacrosse world with HS coaches running programs or coaching summer teams. Colsey/Ridgefield/Superstars Bruce/Brunswick/Two-Way Daniello/Prime-Time/JJ etc. I'd be curious to the Yorktown player and parent point of view. I just see the results of a winning (dominant?) high school program where the kids are playing the best teams on LI and Jersey while advancing to state play-off games and the top players seem to be (some early) committed to top colleges. Again, my first post had more to do with how programs (high school/summer) incorporate or improve that mid-level player...

Yorktown 2019 recently committed to Richmond. Looks like Marr and company are doing something right in Ytown.

Not bad for a suspended coach!! Nice to see he is still working hard getting his players recruited no??

that story is 10000000% accurate about north22 - 1/2 the team or more went to the warriors

Yorktown 2019 recently committed to Richmond. Looks like Marr and company are doing something right in Ytown.

Not bad for a suspended coach!! Nice to see he is still working hard getting his players recruited no??

Yorktown 2019 recently committed to Richmond. Looks like Marr and company are doing something right in Ytown.

Not bad for a suspended coach!! Nice to see he is still working hard getting his players recruited no??

Yorktown 2019 recently committed to Richmond. Looks like Marr and company are doing something right in Ytown.

Not bad for a suspended coach!! Nice to see he is still working hard getting his players recruited no??

You got me hook line and sinker

Who takes credit for that, HS or club? Just like North Rockland Kid earlier this year, HS or Club?

Pretty sure the Yorktown 2019 plays for Express North, as do several others