BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Early Recruiting

I think for me when my son verballed it meant several things:

1. It was a validation of all my sons hard work and effort throughout the years, not to mention the time and sacrifices he made along the way

2. It was nice to have a D1 coach, a professional at his craft tell my son that he was a very good player and a kid who the coach would love to have in his program, it wasnt Ty Xanders or some irrelevant blogger saying it.

3. I think for my son it was a huge sigh of relief that the pressure he was feeling was off and he could just go out and play and enjoy himself. For me obviously it was a huge relief knowing that my son has a spot and is going to have a great opportunity to do some pretty amazing things once he gets to school.

Those are just my thoughts, I understand that at this point until he signs his NLI it is just a verbal agreement and either side can decided that its not the right fit, although for the most part college coaches will honor their verbals. For my son at this point he is completely happy with his decision and unless a significantly better offer comes along he will be staying put. IMHO the only reasons to decommit and verbal to a different school would be a significant upgrade in the academic standing of the school, or for some kids they decide they would rather play D3 and not deal with the pressures of D1. Just my two cents and my experience with this process so far.

[quote=Anonymous]I don't know about any of you but our verbal school is a grandslam all the way around. lacrosse or not!!! Everyone assumes that these early commits are settling. And for others I can't imagine one can go wrong with any of them. MD, NAVY, HOPKINS, UNC, MICHIGAN, PENN ST, OHIO STATE . These early recruiters are all great all around colleges. No lacrosse . No problem Enjoy your weekend haters. [/

I agree ..the kids are most likely not getting much money for lacrosse if any. Hopefully some academic. At least 2/3 of the kids won't be playing lacrosse by junior year. As long as the parents can pay for the schooling the rest will be fine. the kids are picking these schools for the education, the most they are getting academically is 25% . Don't let anyone tell you differently. They are fortunate their parents can afford it

penn st, ohio st, maryland will take anyone who applies.

But as far as the college experience it is the big time!

Validation is no reason to commit. Find right academic school that you would want to go to if there was no lacrosse. No money past college. This single end game.

never said validation was the reason he committed, I said its how we felt about it afterwards.

Validation for spending $30k on club teams. Lacrosse has become a game of musical chairs, grabbing an early one for fear of being out of the game. No one seems to care if that chair is the most comfortable or if it fits at all. The "validation" for parents coupled with college coaches trying to get a competitive edge on their rivals has forced our children to make huge decisions way before they ever should.

Validation for spending $30k on club teams. Lacrosse has become a game of musical chairs, grabbing an early one for fear of being out of the game. No one seems to care if that chair is the most comfortable or if it fits at all. The "validation" for parents coupled with college coaches trying to get a competitive edge on their rivals has forced our children to make huge decisions way before they ever should.

[quote=Anonymous]Re: upcoming NCAA Early Recruiting vote for lacrosse
I find it vile that the IWLCA and IMCLA proposals want to limit phone and written contact between coaches and potential recruits, BUT it will still be ok to make contact at camps and clinics.
This is the classic "pay to play" scenario. Attend camp at XYZ University for $1000 and you MIGHT be invited to sit down with the coach afterwards. If you don't attend the camp, then you have to sit and wait until 9/1 junior year to talk to the coach directly. All the while, your club coach will have the ability to talk to coaches on your behalf, making them absolutely vital to the process (and thus able to charge exorbitant fees for their services).
Everyone "makes out" in this scenario but the players and their families.
If the college coaches truly want to limit all early recruiting, then they need to dump ALL of the loopholes, INCLUDING the ones that put money in their pockets. THEN we could all take them seriously.
Let's not forget, it was the college coaches themselves that started this whole early recruiting insanity.
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POST OF THE YEAR!!
Spot on my cynical friend.

exactly lots of parents are looking at schools smaller then their current HS that no one has heard of with crazy expensive price tags just so their kids can play.

If you are playing big time lacrosse god bless but most need a reality check!

[quote=Anonymous]I don't know about any of you but our verbal school is a grandslam all the way around. lacrosse or not!!! Everyone assumes that these early commits are settling. And for others I can't imagine one can go wrong with any of them. MD, NAVY, HOPKINS, UNC, MICHIGAN, PENN ST, OHIO STATE . These early recruiters are all great all around colleges. No lacrosse . No problem Enjoy your weekend haters. [/

I agree ..the kids are most likely not getting much money for lacrosse if any. Hopefully some academic. At least 2/3 of the kids won't be playing lacrosse by junior year. As long as the parents can pay for the schooling the rest will be fine. the kids are picking these schools for the education, the most they are getting academically is 25% . Don't let anyone tell you differently. They are fortunate their parents can afford it

So you aren't playing "big time" lacrosse you shouldn't bother? Kids playing D 3 need a reality check? Arrogant , ignorant statements. There are hundreds of great colleges and good fits for everyone.

Maybe its you who need the reality check dad. Rather then send your kid to a $60k school that no one has heard of so they play. Its not about you. Maybe your kid is better suited to go to Hopkins academically and just play on the club team. That's ok you know

Absolutely. And so is playing at a small liberal arts college that is a good academic match for my kid. And 30k or 60k won't make the decision for him. Luckily we have planned for college and were not banking on athletic scholarships. It's the experience and the education. Not validating daddy for spending 50k on travel lacrosse or wearing the sweatshirt to Hopkins. Would you rather your son be the 55th player on Hopkins or play and get a great education at CT College ? You don't have to choose play lacrosse or great education. Tons of great schools at D 3 level.

Not sure I would agree that $60k doesn't matter. If the $60k school gets doesn't get you in the door with companies because of zero name recognition you might want to re-think that.

Lacrosse ends. Pick the major and the school that gives you the best chance long-term. As we have all seen ANYONE can be a summer or school lacrosse coach!

Not sure I would agree that $60k doesn't matter. If the $60k school gets doesn't get you in the door with companies because of zero name recognition you might want to re-think that.

Lacrosse ends. Pick the major and the school that gives you the best chance long-term. As we have all seen ANYONE can be a summer or school lacrosse coach!

Ct college is a very good school. no one views them as a very competitive lax program

That's the whole point. You shouldn't be putting a bigger emphasis on lacrosse over education. If my son had the choice to go to a school like Ct college or an academically middle of the road but strong D1 lax school, he would be going to The better academic D3 option as long as we could afford it. A very small group of players get to choose schools that have superior academics and lax. The rest of us have to prioritize between academics, potential financial aid and then think about lacrosse and other factors that shape a decision. If anyone is letting their kid chose a school based on lacrosse they are doing them a disservice.

(Connecticut College is not a "very" good school by any measure -- other NESCAC schools, such as Williams and Amherst, are.)

What is the over under on how many seconds it took for the Rutgers commit to say "Yes" to ND when they called to poach ... 1 second? I take the under. Plucked 3 previous commits in the 2017 class. Only a few schools can pull that off.. hence the reasons Duke and ND don't feel the need to recruit as early

I believe you are a bit misinformed regarding Duke not recruiting early. Coach D is notorious for talking out of both sides of his mouth. On a Saturday he was talking at a lecture saying he does not recruit early and on Sunday he was committing 3 rising 9th graders and asked them to not say anything until end of Freshman year. FACT!!!!

And then. He is the first to sucker a kid to switch schools after a few months..The top schools are not one to throw stones . Sad watching kids switch schools so fast. I hope the parents didn't buy the sweatshirts fro the schools already. Lol

What is the over under on how many seconds it took for the Rutgers commit to say "Yes" to ND when they called to poach ... 1 second? I take the under. Plucked 3 previous commits in the 2017 class. Only a few schools can pull that off.. hence the reasons Duke and ND don't feel the need to recruit as early

[quote=Anonymous]What is the over under on how many seconds it took for the Rutgers commit to say "Yes" to ND when they called to poach ... 1 second? I take the under. Plucked 3 previous commits in the 2017 class. Only a few schools can pull that off.. hence the reasons Duke and ND don't feel the need to recruit as early

What is the over under on how many seconds it took for the Rutgers commit to say "Yes" to ND when they called to poach ... 1 second? I take the under. Plucked 3 previous commits in the 2017 class. Only a few schools can pull that off.. hence the reasons Duke and ND don't feel the need to recruit as early