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If a kid is born 9/2/2003 in NY and another born 9/2/2003 in MD they are the same I am confused by the argument ......You can't be a holdback in an age based tournament .... Grade don't matter its the age that matters if your kid is in 10th grade and 13 what's the difference from the kid who 13 and in 7th grade? I am so confused by this argument .... don't even make sense AGE IS AGE

On Long Island a kid that is born Sept 1 , 2002 that plays in the 2021 year is a holdback but proper age in most other states including Md and Pa. most of The Long Island kids born before 12/1 will be playing 2020 not 2021. So on Long Island many kids born Sept 2003 are playing on 2020 teams and won't play down on a 2021 team. Igloo could have moved younger kids on the 2020 team to play on the WSYL to improve the 2021 team but did not. Most will not do that. It disrupts the team and the kids don't want to play down. Legacy chose to move those kids down and destroyed everyone. So you are right that age based is normally a fair measure but for a one weekend tournament the long Island teams and kids won't play 2021 when they are 2020 giving the other state teams a chance to win with older kids.

We have beaten every team from LI with no holdbacks and plan on going to Denver to win it all.

If Long Island had a Sept 1 school cutoff date you would have a more difficult time beating those teams. I know of a kid that plays and starts on a 2021AA Long Island team born after 9/1/03 and is just under 6 feet 140 lbs. He has been asked to play on a 2022 World Series team for next year. He declined but many other kids like him will say yes and play when asked or tryout for those super teams. Imagine how much better those Long Island teams you barley beat would be adding five kids to each team that are close to 6 feet fastest and skilled. that is what would happen if Long Island hade a 9/1 cut off date. Don't be so confident. You don't know what changes will be made to the teams you beat in the past. All they have to do is pull older kids from the 2021 team and the starters you beat will be on the bench.

Blaze mainly played the older Crush players they brought along, problem was they were nothing special and were not able to compete with the older kids from the other team. Big embarrassment

Its not 2022 its u13 with age cut off of 9/1/2003

The 9/1 cutoff is great, but they just screwed a bunch of kids that could have played last year but didn't thinking they could play this year - only to have wsyl change the dates on them with no notice. Not cool. Wsyl should have a year's notice to transition so they don't leave anyone out.

The 9/1 cutoff is great, but they just screwed a bunch of kids that could have played last year but didn't thinking they could play this year - only to have wsyl change the dates on them with no notice. Not cool. Wsyl should have a year's notice to transition so they don't leave anyone out.

It changed a few times last year. Give it time. Set your rosters to 9/1. Then watch the change it and some teams create a different team. Make sure the team you tryout for will take your kid to WSYL even if dates change.

Oh and by the way - lost to the other team they geared up to beat in the qualifier.

If Igloo and 100-9 had any balls, they would play a game soon to find out who is king.

91 has too many players that won't qualify from those 2 teams. You'll see now who has,the holdbacks. Express middies are out also.

I am going to bet they move it back to 5/1 and also require 2022 grad year. This is how it was on year 1, last year they made it just age based and people lost their minds. The reason it became 5/1 was because the tournament directors started with 9/1 and teams said they wouldn't go because too many of their players would not be eligable. Then they moved it to 7/1 and teams still said they wouldn't come. They then moved it to 5/1 and that worked for most teams. Time will tell, but that is my bet.

I am going to bet they move it back to 5/1 and also require 2022 grad year. This is how it was on year 1, last year they made it just age based and people lost their minds. The reason it became 5/1 was because the tournament directors started with 9/1 and teams said they wouldn't go because too many of their players would not be eligable. Then they moved it to 7/1 and teams still said they wouldn't come. They then moved it to 5/1 and that worked for most teams. Time will tell, but that is my bet.

won't ever require a grad year. trying to attract international teams

Attract international teams? Thats funny! They will never be competitive with America or Canada. Look at the U19 teams. Hard to watch, any decent 2016 US team would have won it all! Which begs the question....where have the Canadians been in this supposed "WSYL"?

Canadian teams seem to have enough sense to attend the best tournaments they can drive to and avoid the ones requiring airfare. Move this tourney to the NE if you really want to have the best teams attend. There are plenty of empty stadiums to use in the NE as well as Denver.

Except that the MLL is looking to expand to the West, not to the North. The Canadian team folded and the league is heading West (along with Coke and the other sponsors)where the money is and where they can add the new time zone to expand the TV coverage.

Except that the MLL is looking to expand to the West, not to the North. The Canadian team folded and the league is heading West (along with Coke and the other sponsors)where the money is and where they can add the new time zone to expand the TV coverage.

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Did you say the money is to the West ? You really are dumb. They might be trying to expand the game but definatly not chasing the money.

Are most organizations going with 2022 team or a special selected team based on rules.....9/1/03

I think most teams are sticking with their kids that have been together for 4 years and skipping the wsyl if the new cutoff dates don't allow ALL the kids to go.