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that's ok, from what I have heard, Daniello is running the youth program now, he will figure out a way to make his money off of them- the president of the youth program is as spineless as a jelly fish, he will let it happen, his kids prob play for primetime for free

Which youth program?

john jay

hahaha calling someone 'spineless' while doing so anonymously hahahaha...Although I'm guessing you've run so many youth programs in your lifetime, that in your feeble mind you get a free pass to criticize

truth hurts - overcharged from top to bottom, losing organization run by people that give nothing back to the town or players and are happy to feed the for- profit organization, yeh sounds like a great organization run by a guy that never played lacrosse at any level. if that's your idea of running a youth program , keep it up, no wonder you guys cant beat Yorktown EVER

ha ha - from what I hear - definitely lax mafia in that town

I heard you guys pay the ex president $4k to schedule games ? maybe you should use that money for winter training and let parents do the scheduling

No varsity program thrives without a youth program that is run by people who are totally committed to the kids development. It's the reason why Pleasantville, Bronxville, etc have grown as legitimate varsity programs and why Yorktown is a consistent powerhouse. The director and coaches invest a lot of time and energy teaching the kids the game and instilling a desire to win. Its a culture, not just recreation.

We all know plenty of former players who are terrible coaches and administrators. Some are lazy, bad communicators or just don't put the effort in that is required. Lack of experience on the field shouldn't preclude someone from being an effective coach or commissioner.

'overcharged', sounds like a bitter parent who's son didn't make the A team. But yes you are right they should give something back like the local baseball and football programs do...participation trophies?

Sounds like sour grapes

overcharged- well its 195 dollars for k-1 , its 450 for 6th grade and goes up from there- you be the judge , coaches of the 6th and 7th grade are top notch individuals -

Hoping one day the Westchester clubs actually play one another.

Realize much of the attention goes to 2017-2020, but for those of us with younger kids, the jungle of clubs proclaiming how "elite" they are is comical.

PT, Preds, Express North, 3D Tri-State, Eclipse, Dynasty, Superstar, Ballers, 2Way, 91 North should compete locally rather than paying high fees and journeying to LI or PA for the experience. Seems club directors fear parents will question their programs if they lose to local rival. So all avoid one another to play it safe.

I think Yorktown is $175 max. Does John Jay pay the coaches?

who really needs to go anywhere to play at the younger ages - practice 2 days a week and play local round robins

Agreed. Clubs like playing teams from other regions because these teams are not in competition with each other for kids. Almost no one from Pleasantville is going to say "my kid will play for LI Outlaws next year because they looked real good when we played them." But they might move from PT to Express North. Another factor not mentioned is that some of these clubs are really just regional chapters of larger clubs that run their own tournaments on LI and elsewhere. So these clubs are required (I assume) to attend these tournaments, where a "true" fee is not paid, only an accounting one is.

But we need to make sure to compensate the club owners, tournament companies, hotels and restaurants for all the lost revenue. I believe our kids would develop into fine lacrosse players by playing a few local teams during the summer. Many of these kids by the time the are sophomores in high school have been doing this for 5 or 6 summers on top of fall ball and high school season. Way too many games and travel.

This weekend there is the Crab Fest tournament in Baltimore. On Saturday, each team will play in 3 games, consisting of 4 -10 minute running time quarters. On Sunday, each team will most likely play in 2 games of equal length. So at most, each team will play 200 minutes of running time lacrosse. On your drive Friday afternoon from Westchester to Baltimore, 200 minutes may not get you out of New Jersey. It makes no logical sense, other than to enrich the clubs and tournament owners, to do this. Local league - 10 teams, no travel, no Holiday Inns, and weekends free to do other things. Didn't even factor in that many teams have 25 players on them so the 200 minutes of lacrosse goes down substantially.

at this point in Westchester at he younger ages its a notch above town with so many teams- might as well just extend town another 2 months and play 3/4 jamborees

Younger teams extend town programs. High School kids should have a high school league. May need to combine some teams but that shouldn't be a problem.

2 tourneys (one travel, one local) - $3,500 entrance fees
8 games vs local teams - Ref fees - $400 (we pay one ref, opponent pays the other)
1 paid coach - $10,000 ?? (2 dad coaches are assistants for free)
Uniforms - $600 ??
Rent practice space - ??? (not a lot of money if rent from a school or town park

Divide by 18 kids (20+ too many) = $805 plus 1/18th whatever it costs to rent practice space per kid.

how did the Westchester teams do this weekend ?

tristate 91 2024, 2021 and varsity won their bracket in war games

Prime Time 2019 was at the Crab Feast - went 3-0 in pool play and then beat 2019 Express North 6-4 to make it to the semi-final against Crabs. Lost that game

my son has never played travel before , im just curious what people think are the best teams we should tryout for in the 2024 age bracket

i have no idea of ability of your son, but- first off- very rarely do local teams ever play each other which is unfortunate , but I see it this way IN TERMS OF SKILL
EXPRESS NORTH- KATONAH
PRIMETIME- SOUTH SALEM
2 WAY- BRUNSWICK SCHOOL
ECLIPSE- NEW CANNAAN CT
sUPERSTARS- RIDGEFIELD
TRISTATE - PURCHASE

SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH ALL PROGRAMS LISTED ABOVE, AND ALL OFFER DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PLAY , IN DIFFERENT LEVEL TOURNEYS

Yes saw that PT 2019 win and was very confused by it. The 3-0 at Crab fest is not impressive but the win over E north is. Crabs Madlax and Laxachuessets top three

tristate 2024 won their tourney this weekend

Not sure why the confusion. Both teams are very talented and play good lacrosse. Both teams were also missing a top offensive player so no excuses there. It seems you are familiar with the North team but maybe get familiar with PT and you will realize. Your opinion is your opinion so can't change that but objectively there's not much of a difference between both teams except the head to head match ups They tied each other in 2015 and PT won this. Maybe next year it's different result but that won't change the fact both teams are talented in good programs.

PT 2019 is a very good team and on Sunday they outplayed Express North. However, I think these 2 teams will be very similar to the 2018's and on any given day either team can win.

Has 2018 prime time ever beaten express north ??? I don't think so

I think PT being in more tourneys with tough teams will help them. They are now having the opportunity to do that. North has been there already there with Express' inclusion in NLF. Beating a rival is nice - but the measuring stick of progress for both programs should be beating Madlax, 91, Laxachusetts, Crabs, HHH.

PT 2019 lost to 3d prior weekend and Express North crushed 3d at same tournament. Express North may be the better team but looks like PT has their number. Seems like PT plays weaker schedule at big tournaments.

I think the last name on your list should be Team 91. I believe Tri-State is a NJ team.

Also you forgot Predators (Purchase) and TopSide (Purchase)

PT 2019 has played in the same tournaments this summer at the same level of play Express North 2019 AA and do play the same quality teams as Express North 2019 AA. Yes, results have been different, no argument there. But the schedule is not chosen, it is given to them, so you play who you have to. PT 2019 at Crab Feast had to play Express North 2019 AA to advance and they beat them, hands down, nothing more to be said. As said earlier, both teams have a lot of talent and play good lacrosse. I would be ignorant to say one team is better than other, but if you so choose to, the head to head match up is a nice indicator. This year PT 2019 beat Express North AA, last year the teams tied. So having said all that, I would concentrate on just enjoying the lacrosse being played this summer, as it is going by very quickly.

at the 2024 level- primetime played express north this past weekend 9-3 express north - what's going on with Primetime

I'm sorry ? you're concerned about a 4th/5th grade (Primetime) team? Damn. They should just disband now.

Since you are so concerned I'm hearing only good things about the 2026 level...

Actually PT 2018 has beat express north. fl$ about 2-3 years ago, beat them pretty bad. Probably to avenge their loss the year before when the team was superstar 365.

Tri-State [part of the 91 group of lacrosse clubs] can't even compete at the 2019 level. Lack of commitment by many families, with coaches asking to bring friends at their own tournament.