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I THINK DIRECTOR OF tristate mike bocklet is a world class guy and obviously hello of a player, but, the problem I see at that program is the way they position themselves in the lax universe, they play B tourneys against b/c teams and even though their teams at the younger levels are as good or as bad as the younger teams in Westchester like express or primetime, they will struggle to attract the players who are looking for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, while I realize that pot of gold may never exist for some players or even most players , but it is what drives parents to craziness of travel lacrosse. even his 2020, 2019, 2018, etc teams all play in low level tourneys with zero chance of any scout ever being there. so why pay 1500-2000 dollars when you can pay less for the same with programs like warriors, ballers, etc... meaning town style programs

at the 2024 level- primetime played express north this past weekend 9-3 express north - what's going on with Primetime

Everything you say is true, and I think for certain grade years can really only play tournaments based on talent. I would love to hear feedback about what their quality of instruction is? PrimeTime (especially) and Express North have become more about early recruitment than anything else. Team lacrosse is not in their vocabulary, watch the athletic middie go 1 on 2, and then shoot anyway & anywhere. So I think TriState and perhaps others can and should fill a niche for parents and players who aren't looking for the pot of gold in 7th and 8th grade but instead a solid summer team where players actually get better.

Easy big guy. Express North gets destroyed whenever they leave westchester.

TS instruction that I have witnessed is ok. Nothing great or spectacular or unique, but certainly hits all the spots and not deficient in any way. I would be shocked if it were better than the instruction at PT or Express North, just based on reputation and pedigree of coaches. TS has been playing tournaments commiserate with their talent. Someone above indicated a problem with attendance and commitment at 2019. Similar problems exist at other grades, especially with regard to attendance at practice. Families are very wealthy (a generalization, I know, but I am basing it on what I see and where they live) and it means nothing to them to pay $1500 (or whatever it was) and have their kid miss tons of practice and some of the tournaments. The comparison to town summer programs is valid but most towns don't have such, so its not an option for many people. These programs seem to be in Northern Westchester and would be too far to travel for practice for most of who is at TS. Lower Westchester families are not driving their kids to Somers or Yorktown to play for Warriors or Ballers.

My last two cents and its very nit-picky.

TS does not really have a sense of comradery. The majority of other teams bring team tents and the boys typically hang out in between games. This really hasn't been the case. They should consider this as the boys come from a number of different towns and would help build a bit more cohesiveness on the field.

to the poster that said express north 2024 is cream of the class, I saw express north 2024 play this summer, man did they look awful, could not win a faceoff, or win a ground ball, not sure what happened there or how they beat Primetime 9-3. the one midi that dominated in the fall, can barely get out of his own way . lost every game this weekend, they need help

Congratulations Express North 2024 , another great weekend - 1-3 against mostly B teams up in Simsbury , makes their record 4-15 on the summer - way to go!! Maybe Schreiber isn't yelling enough

Who is the PT coach for this grade and how is the coaching? Will the coach change next year? My experience is that PT uses college kids as coaching.

Same for LIE North. Who is the coach and will he be the same next year? How is the coaching?

Have a son who may tryout for both. Want the best coaching. Want a coach that cares about the kids and makes a team out of them. Don't care about winning.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

ITS WAS THE B BRACKET- NICE TRY

Yeh. If your gonna self promote. Be honest at least. You won the B bracket. Like 90+1 tristate saying they won the war games against b/c teams. It's not bad. But be honest

So many on here argue that this team is better than that as if being on the best team is somehow a ticket to playing in college and that kids should be embarrassed if they are playing on a team that is not super elite. Guess what? It's pathetic. It's your kids who are playing, not you. They're the ones who have to care at the end of the day and the minute they stop having fun, they won't care about it at all no matter how great their team is. And your status in the community and in life is not made better because little Johnny is a standout player. Whatever shortcomings you have that compel you to argue over the greatness of your kids youth lacrosse team will not diminish whether he plays at Hopkins or gets cut from his high school team. Much of what is on this board is good dialogue and exchange of information but those of you that are compelled to [lacrosse] on other programs while beating your chest about how great your son's program is have some serious character issues.

Well said. That being the case why don't we all stop paying the middleman and get a summer league going. For these kids

ITS WAS THE B BRACKET- NICE TRY

agree. these teams all get pounded when they go the island. could compete if they combined

In no particular order... 3d, Primetime, Predators, Express, Eclipse

Too many if you ask me. Talent is diluted.