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Greetings from the Oiland you Lax Losers!

I tawt I would share wid ya's the philosophy that us Yellow Jackets instill in our goils when teaching them the highly complex game of lax.

Here are da rules of our game:

1. Always swing towards da head. Making contact wid da head is the best way to instill fear in yer opponents. Head shots always git a high five from da coach.

2. If ya git beat to a ball - dive for their legs. A sharp blow to the back of the knee always gits the results we is looking for.

3. Learn to spit a hocker from at least 10 feet away from da opponent. Dem goils from down south don't know how ta dodge a hocker on da run.

4. Take da butt end of yer stick and jam it into their sides. Sometimes this will crack a rib or two. I have found that hitting da dog in da side wid a stick is really good practice. The intimidation factor on an opponent (or bitches, as we say on the Oiland),always gits results.

5. Scream at da ref ! They is usually just a bunch of fairy guys or butchy old bags. They can be scared into giving you the call. Just remember - we got yer backs if they don't. We parents will let them know they can expect a good butt whipping in the parking lot if the call don't go our way!

6. If da game is tied or we is just up by 1 point - use our famous stall tactic invented by our genius coach for da 2015's. Fall down and start screaming. Since the clock is running, he will just stand there and stare over at ya for about a minute then he will waddle his fat butt over across the field to help ya. Just remember, don't try to git up. Da coach don't like dat. You must lay on da field and chew up that clock. I have seen this work several times - even in back ta back games using the same goil. Remember to practice yer injury and make it last until time runs out.

Well there you have it Lax Losers. The Yellow Jacket secrets to Lax success.

Love ya's all,
Oiland Jack

You know...this tool is attacking LI and not just the YJ. I am a TG parent and while I have no love for the YJs I think it's about time we stop taking crap from MD and NJ and VA etc...Is it possible for us to all stop hating each other and finally team up against the real enemies? Any Thoughts and try to keep it productive...no one needs to hear the usual stuff from both sides. Let's show this [lacrosse] we just wont take it any longer. After all we are STRONG ISLAND!!!!

so sad that you obviously have no life. I'm sure you put a lot of time into that "witty" little posting there. Something tells me that was your big accomplishment of the day. You should be so proud.

The more time you spend putting the yjs down, the more apparent it is that you wish you were with us. Post away...you obviously are doing nothing else productive with yourself.

"Team up against the enemy"? This is youth/HS lacrosse - nobody involved is an "enemy". You need to lighten up. Your post is not only not helping things, it's more fodder for those who make fun of Long Island parents/players.

The obsessive tool you want him to lighten up against has been calling 14 year old girls from long island thugs, you may be good with that but I am never good with an adult going after children.Does not matter what club your child plays for a so called adult should not be obsessing about any clubs teenage kids.

The obsessive tool you want him to lighten up against has been calling 14 year old girls from long island thugs, you may be good with that but I am never good with an adult going after children.Does not matter what club your child plays for a so called adult should not be obsessing about any clubs teenage kids.

The obsessive tool you want him to lighten up against has been calling 14 year old girls from long island thugs, you may be good with that but I am never good with an adult going after children.Does not matter what club your child plays for a so called adult should not be obsessing about any clubs teenage kids.

[Ahhh...Shut up and return to your sensitivity training class. Just saying we need to unite.

Unite? Unite against whom?

God, you are really doing a great job dispelling the myth that LI lacrosse parents are uneducated trash.

The real issue is that we are being made fun of because of the way 'some', not all of the parents act at the games.
I personally watched a game at the Lax Inception Tournament where YJ 2015 was playing M&D 2015. Great game for the girls - hard fought, a couple of cards on both sides. I did not witness anything going on between the girls. Honestly, I heard some M&D parents say it was the best game they had ever seen and not because they won.
HOWEVER, there were a couple of parents that were threatening the refs and yelled at the M&D parents they would get them at the National Draw. 'Get them?' what does that mean? Beat them up on the sidelines? When I look at the various posts it seems like there are just a few girls and a coach that cause issues. If it were not for those few then maybe we would not be having discussions like these.
The mere fact that this forum seems almost dedicated to slandering one particular team should make everyone involved think about what is really going on. Is it just the coach that is telling the girls to do this? Are there parents telling their girls to do this? I doubt it is the ownership of the club telling just these select individuals to do these things.
Maybe there just happens to be some type of issue with these girls. I really doubt the coach calls these three girls aside and tells just them to do these things. If it were a coaching issue then the entire team would be out of control.
We always heard about the YJ when my daughter was just beginning to play club. Her first tournament we made time to go and see the YJ play so she could see where she had to take her level of play.
We still like to see the YJ play and the games are always good. I just wish 'some' of the parents would just keep the raucous comments to themselves. It would probably make the whole thing go away.

The real issue is that we are being made fun of because of the way 'some', not all of the parents act at the games.
I personally watched a game at the Lax Inception Tournament where YJ 2015 was playing M&D 2015. Great game for the girls - hard fought, a couple of cards on both sides. I did not witness anything going on between the girls. Honestly, I heard some M&D parents say it was the best game they had ever seen and not because they won.
HOWEVER, there were a couple of parents that were threatening the refs and yelled at the M&D parents they would get them at the National Draw. 'Get them?' what does that mean? Beat them up on the sidelines? When I look at the various posts it seems like there are just a few girls and a coach that cause issues. If it were not for those few then maybe we would not be having discussions like these.
The mere fact that this forum seems almost dedicated to slandering one particular team should make everyone involved think about what is really going on. Is it just the coach that is telling the girls to do this? Are there parents telling their girls to do this? I doubt it is the ownership of the club telling just these select individuals to do these things.
Maybe there just happens to be some type of issue with these girls. I really doubt the coach calls these three girls aside and tells just them to do these things. If it were a coaching issue then the entire team would be out of control.
We always heard about the YJ when my daughter was just beginning to play club. Her first tournament we made time to go and see the YJ play so she could see where she had to take her level of play.
We still like to see the YJ play and the games are always good. I just wish 'some' of the parents would just keep the raucous comments to themselves. It would probably make the whole thing go away.

The real issue is that we are being made fun of because of the way 'some', not all of the parents act at the games.
I personally watched a game at the Lax Inception Tournament where YJ 2015 was playing M&D 2015. Great game for the girls - hard fought, a couple of cards on both sides. I did not witness anything going on between the girls. Honestly, I heard some M&D parents say it was the best game they had ever seen and not because they won.
HOWEVER, there were a couple of parents that were threatening the refs and yelled at the M&D parents they would get them at the National Draw. 'Get them?' what does that mean? Beat them up on the sidelines? When I look at the various posts it seems like there are just a few girls and a coach that cause issues. If it were not for those few then maybe we would not be having discussions like these.
The mere fact that this forum seems almost dedicated to slandering one particular team should make everyone involved think about what is really going on. Is it just the coach that is telling the girls to do this? Are there parents telling their girls to do this? I doubt it is the ownership of the club telling just these select individuals to do these things.
Maybe there just happens to be some type of issue with these girls. I really doubt the coach calls these three girls aside and tells just them to do these things. If it were a coaching issue then the entire team would be out of control.
We always heard about the YJ when my daughter was just beginning to play club. Her first tournament we made time to go and see the YJ play so she could see where she had to take her level of play.
We still like to see the YJ play and the games are always good. I just wish 'some' of the parents would just keep the raucous comments to themselves. It would probably make the whole thing go away.

How can one "make" Carol Rose fix the problem when SHE is the problem herself?

Let's be honest - it's also part of the culture from Long Island. I have seen embarassing behavior from teams/parents from all over the country, but the behavior/language from Long Island teams and parents are consistently an embarassment to the game.

The reason people will not leave YJ is because they know that what you are saying is complete nonsense. Funny that you believe a coach is teaching promoting girls to hurt your children and the only thing you do is come on this site and whine.The YJ parents and kids will not turn on their friends and teammates .Keep begging for the YJ players to leave , so obvious your true reasons why.Keep attacking the YJ parents and players it just makes them closer.

CR is not the problem do you really think UA,Schoolgirls, empires or any of these select premier teams she coaches would hire her if she condoned such behavior. Absolutely not. So please stop always making it about her. If she was teaching such garbage the college coaches would shy away from her too. The complete opposite is true. They flock to her because of her character and integrity surrounding the recruiting and training of these athletes.

AMEN

No one is attacking so you will leave your club. Parents are just stating facts about play from the 2015 team that directly injured SEVERAL players. It has been witnessed by everyone and is not up for debate. That is the argument. No one is jealous and want you or your kids. You really can stop saying that.

The issue is the YJ organization TEACHES THUG PLAY. It was proven in Florida, and many have seen similar tactics taught and displayed on other, younger teams. It is disgusting lacrosse and horrible sportsmanship.

The YJ club may not have thug players, ruthless coaches and/or trashy parents, but that is the reputation it is getting.

The reason people will not leave YJ is because they know that what you are saying is complete nonsense. Funny that you believe a coach is teaching promoting girls to hurt your children and the only thing you do is come on this site and whine.The YJ parents and kids will not turn on their friends and teammates .Keep begging for the YJ players to leave , so obvious your true reasons why.Keep attacking the YJ parents and players it just makes them closer.

Let's be honest - it's also part of the culture from Long Island. I have seen embarassing behavior from teams/parents from all over the country, but the behavior/language from Long Island teams and parents are consistently an embarassment to the game.

This is quite untrue. LI parents may have an accent and are animated but all will agree the Maryland and Virginia parents are equally as loud. The difference is they feel they can say what they want and no one else can. I witnessed this many times and it's quite amusing. Next tournament pay attention to the lunatic screaming coming from these parents and see what happens if you ask them to quiet down like they do to LI parents. You will see unacceptable behavior and profanity. Terrible.

amen, that about says it all!
I am not a YJ parent or player. However, I know plenty of them.

This is one of the funniest quotes. CR has created a culture of the "ends justifies the means." This same culture has put so much focus on the wrong things for her players to focus on. Instead of focusing or teaching things like loyalty, sportsmanship, and unity she has instead decided to focus on win at all costs. Behave however you like as long as you win.

What is sad is that her focus on winning has actually hurt her program recently. You ask how? Take a look at this past year. On the club circuit, if you were playing YJ Blue, you knew you were playing their best team. However, this past year she made two blue teams at every age level. Why? There are a couple of reasons. One reason is that she could now bring in even more money to her program. She did not need to cut anyone. Just make another team - call them blue as well and have parents who are delusional think that maybe my kid can one day play on of these teams. The second reason she did this was because there were too many unhappy campers in her own program. Her focus on just the best team and just the best girls was pissing off a lot of people who were lining her pockets. The internal politics were creating issues not just at each age level, but also across age levels.

Parents and players of other teams were "rooting" for other teams who had received all of the focus to lose. Parents were happy when teams "streaks" were broken and outwardly discussed it amongst themselves and outsiders.

This summer it has come to a head. Teams, coaches and players have been called out for their tactics. However, one of the reasons why this will not change overnight is because of one main issue: FEAR. Fear the Bee is the YJ slogan. It happens to be so fitting. Parents within the YJ's fear the Queen Bee. What will happen to me and my daughter if I was to speak up? Will I be blackballed? If I am a coach and I speak up, what will happen to me? Parents also fear the worker bees who are so loyal to the queen. If I go against the queen, what will happen back at my high school? Will my daughter still be able to play? Its almost cult like in some ways. People know something is wrong, but they are afraid to say or do anything.

This is club lacrosse and there are plenty of other good programs who have good coaches who truly care about the kids and their families. Not just about your checkbook. There are programs that have the right focus. Find them, speak to other parents. These are the difference makers. These are the people you should be flocking to. Instead they flock to the new blue team and the other 2-3 teams below them with 26 girls on a roster. Do not fear the bee. Do not fear yourself. Do the right thing.

Not up for debate? How many 2015 yj games have u been at? Obviously you are just like the rest of the sensationalists on this site! They are kids just like yours. They are not criminals like you make them out to be! It is totally rediculous!!!

First I have been to many games and know several players through SC HS lax. Second I didn't say anyone was a criminal. I said, as has everyone else, that there are players on that team that play beyond the rules and are injuring opposing players. All fact. Why are YOU saying your players are criminals and not focusing on the facts. Again, just to re focus for your response...I have been to many games over the past couple years and no one is a criminal. We await your response.

No one is attacking so you will leave your club. Parents are just stating facts about play from the 2015 team that directly injured SEVERAL players. It has been witnessed by everyone and is not up for debate. That is the argument. No one is jealous and want you or your kids. You really can stop saying that.