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Yawn. Great school. Move on moron. Now to something interesting... USC continues to roll. Fight on!

Same time so both recruited the current teams, obviously extremely different coaching styles. Quick question- if a verbal does not have the required ncaa requirements by senior year is he/she still accepted into school and just put on academic probation?

Spallina started at SB in 2012. Smith at Hofstra in 2013. You need to take the price of the school into account when it comes to recruiting. Hofstra is almost double the price of Stony Brook.

Pure athletics with no academic money-

.2 at Hofstra off their $53k price tag is $11,600 for a net of $41,400

.2 at Stony Brook off their 22k price tag is $4,400 for a net of $17,600

As Bernie would say that's a Huuuuuge difference.

Spallina was also a head coach for 4 years at Adelphi before he went to SB. That's a big experience edge.

heres a question I am throwing out to everyone what is considered verbalabusse these days in the NCAA when it comes to womens lacrosse coaches. Also, can you say that a coach is physically abuseing girls when she is not feeding them on road trips. What would you consider mental abuse.

Please name the university so we can steer clear during the recruiting process.

well judging by the NU girls we can scratch them off the list of suspects.

Also remember that the scholarship dollar amount is based on out-of-state figures

Looks like she has a shot at NCAA single season goal record if SBU can advance far enough.

Maybe they can beat up NU again!

IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 16-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 16-1 376 2
3 North Carolina 13-2 361 3
4 Syracuse 14-4 333 4
5 USC 17-0 330 5
6 Notre Dame 12-5 289 6
7 Stony Brook 13-3 273 7
8 Louisville 12-4 250 8
9 Stanford 13-3 241 9
10 Virginia 9-7 191 11
11 Penn State 11-4 180 14
12 Princeton 10-4 177 10
13 Duke 9-7 161 13
14 Penn 11-3 154 17
15 Northwestern 7-8 128 12
16 Massachusetts 15-1 73 19
16 Boston College 10-7 73 16
18 Cornell 11-3 64 20
19 Ohio State 11-4 63 15
20 Towson 12-3 37 18

IWLCA Poll for Division II, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 14-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 13-1 379 2
3 Florida Southern 14-3 345 6
4 Lindenwood 13-2 333 4
5 LIU Post 12-3 318 5
6 Rollins 13-2 305 3
7 West Chester 16-1 289 7
8 Mercyhurst 15-2 258 8
9 New Haven 11-4 235 9
10 Dowling 13-2 210 12
11 Grand Valley St 10-4 191 11
12 Indiana (PA) 12-5 162 14
13 Limestone 13-3 156 13
14 Lock Haven 13-4 151 10
15 Queens 14-2 135 15
16 Regis (CO) 13-2 102 16
17 Bentley 10-5 94 17
18 East Stroudsburg 12-5 56 19
19 Mount Olive 12-5 35 20
20 Stonehill 7-7 15 18

IWLCA Poll for Division III, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 15-0 400 20 1
2 College of NJ 14-1 374 2
3 Salisbury 15-2 348 3
4 F & M 15-1 342 4
5 Gettysburg 13-1 327 5
6 Middlebury 13-1 306 6
7 Trinity (CT) 12-2 283 7
8 Amherst 11-2 256 8
9 Brockport 12-1 200 11
10 Colby 11-3 198 10
10 Bates 11-3 198 9
12 Hamilton 10-5 181 12
13 St. Mary's (MD) 16-2 178 13
14 [lacrosse] 12-6 151 14
15 Mary Washington 14-4 116 14
16 Tufts 8-6 106 18
17 Messiah 10-5 72 17
18 Christopher Newport 11-5 54 16
19 St. John Fisher 14-2 38 20
20 Union 9-4 14 19

7 - 8 ? How is that possible, they are so good.

What is wrong with you? Isn't your daughters team 4-11 and just got beat by SHU this weekend?

Tournament bound, it's going to be an awesome family trip!

I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

Can you two idiots go down to the schoolyard and slap each other silly, all the while screaming "my kids better than yours".

And by the way, sounds like your kid is a notch above average.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.

Good for you! Signed the guy who is killing NU. And it's so easy because they stink.

There are more than one poster responding on both sides of this. I will give you your due in regards to their record, sure. But they have played the #1 hardest schedule in the nation. They have played the #s 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,11,13,14 teams in the poll. I think if you rationally look at a handful of teams ahead of them in the polls, 3 of whom they have beaten (and yes all 8 of their losses have come to teams ranked currently 14 or above) NUs record would be substantially the same as theirs given their schedules. For instance, would a 13-3 NU team be ranked 7th like SB, since that likely would be their record as well? Or how about 9th ranked 13-3 Stanford? I think if you look at their schedule, it is reasonable to conclude that NU might even be 14-2 with the same schedule. I just think it is a little unfair to hammer a team too hard for taking on literally everybody. At least they schedule them and play it out. This year, they aren't top of the heap, but they are a good team that is probably a little better than a 15th ranking IMHO.
And for the record, I have not made any mention of your daughter. I wish you and her well.

I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.

Only if you're a Maryland fan

Why the animosity towards Northwestern? They are mediocre this year but so are a lot of other teams. They had a great run and now it's over. It's a lot more than most schools can say. They will get into the tournament. Lose in the first or second round and life will go on. No need to be filled with all that anger

He was right, and he was attacked for it. And in my not so humble opinion this NU team is only ranked out of nostalgia and they are ranked way too high. There is absolutely no reason they should be ranked at all or even be in the tournament conversation. This is the end of the road. NU = NG.

And another year where one of the five teams that has one the championship for the last 25 years will win again - NC or Maryland.

The sport just cant seem to cycle in new winners. Here's hoping for a major upset, the sport needs it

If, and it is an "if", they destroy Ohio State at OSU, the #18 team in the country, will you post on here that maybe you were wrong? How r they "getting by on rep alone"? You have been shown the schedule. They have played 11 of the top 14 teams ranked ahead of them. They r 3-8 against them. Not to their standards no question, but if anything ought to rank them higher than 15, not lower. And have beaten all 4 teams behind them in the rankings/out of rankings. They are actually getting penalized for the schedule they chose to play. If they beat OSU, they r into the tournament likely. And should be. I'm sure though the people that agree with you most, honestly, are the players and coaches at NU. My guess is they are nowhere near satisfied with their record.

You will need a physical team w a great goalie to get the upset ... my candidate, and yes it's a way longshot ... USC. Would be an unbelievable story and grow the game on the west coast in a big way. One can hope ...

No I will not admit I'm wrong because I am not. You prove that N.U. Is getting by on reputation when you say if they played that teams schedule they would be better. There is no way of knowing if they would have beaten any team they didn't play. If any team from any conference has a better record they should be given the chance to go to tournament over any team with even a 9-7 record because they used to be good. They played there games and lost. Other t arms played there games and won. Why isn't it that simple. In years past N.U. also played very hard schedules and won. Why is it when they lose they should be rewarded? That's kind of like taking a goal off the board for a shooting space violation, rewarding bad play and punishing good play, woman's lacrosse..... Go figure

There is a history of teams with tough schedules making the tournament. UVA comes to mind. For the last couple of years the Cavaliers have teetered around .500 and were always rewarded a tournament berth based on their strength of schedule. Two years ago they made a run to the final four after worrying if they would even make the tournament.

A few posts back someone commented that the same teams will make this tournament and either UNC or MD will win like every year. Until other schools are allowed into tournament, and sos Is diminished no top players will gravitate to non traditional powers and every year will be the same. The structure needs to change

No I will not admit I'm wrong because I am not. You prove that N.U. Is getting by on reputation when you say if they played that teams schedule they would be better. There is no way of knowing if they would have beaten any team they didn't play. If any team from any conference has a better record they should be given the chance to go to tournament over any team with even a 9-7 record because they used to be good. They played there games and lost. Other t arms played there games and won. Why isn't it that simple. In years past N.U. also played very hard schedules and won. Why is it when they lose they should be rewarded? That's kind of like taking a goal off the board for a shooting space violation, rewarding bad play and punishing good play, woman's lacrosse..... Go figure [/quot

You really are an idiot. According to you strength of schedule should not matter so a loss to Maryland is the same as losing to LIU Brooklyn.Not sure if its the same moron or two separate morons who keep bashing NU but give it a rest .I generally root against NU from back in their glory days but that team is still a top 15 team and will tell you plenty of other top teams would be happy if they do not make the tournament.

Why are some on this board so quick to call others names? It's so childish to do so simply because they don't agree with you. Strength of schedule shouldn't be disregarded, but not as heavily considered. If LIU Brooklyn should ever have a better record than N.U than yes they should get there shot and not dismissed because they didn't lose to someone.

Right now there are 27 teams with double digit wins this year. All those girls worked extremely hard and deserve a shot for a tournament bid over a .500 club no matter who the .500 team lost to. If that happens maybe the race to commit to a program rather than a major of study will end. Try to remember student comes first in the student athlete.

If that happened you would have power house teams scheduling inferior teams just to have a better record. The bottom line is the best teams should make it! You already have teams from weak conferences making it , who have virtually no chance to win a game! The at large teams need to be the best teams!

like SB did, Four top twenty games with three losses and a bunch of blowouts

Or the flip side of teams scheduling ridiculous out of conference schedule just to up their SOS, when they still don't have a shot.

it looks like 5 top 20 opponents and two wins. Two one goal losses and a loss to USC. Many of the Big conference teams do not want to or need to schedule smaller conference schools. Seems like many of the larger conference schools schedule easier games for The exact opposite reasons. Such as ND playing Liberty etc

New to the discussion, but two things - Ohio St hasn't played much of a schedule at all and NU should easily beat them. All the teams that are ranked ahead of NU weren't always until NU lost to them