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I think we can all agree that it is not technically cheating. That said, we all agree that the Crabs only dominate when they play younger teams. You may laugh, but we are ALL laughing harder. Talent doesn't ever need to play down to win or get recruited. I think we all saw that this past week.

How many non holdback are on 2020 crabs. Anyone know?

Only 7 or 8 are left. I'd be interested to know how many of this years team played in the WSYL loss to 91 last year where the cutoff was only June 1, 2001. I bet it's only those 7 or 8.

...I find it quite funny to sit back and listen to parents on the sideline

Crabs is and always will be a target for these kinds of attacks. Usually the best teams will. I know that the youngest Crabs team has 0 playbacks. They are very good and well coached. They will win a lot this year and may loose a few as well. After every win you will hear parents claim foul and crabs cheats. Parents seem to need to find a way to make excuses for a loss instead of moving on and getting better. I find it quite funny to sit back and listen to parents on the sideline

Crabs is and always will be a target for these kinds of attacks. Usually the best teams will. I know that the youngest Crabs team has 0 playbacks. They are very good and well coached. They will win a lot this year and may loose a few as well. After every win you will hear parents claim foul and crabs cheats. Parents seem to need to find a way to make excuses for a loss instead of moving on and getting better. I find it quite funny to sit back and listen to parents on the sideline

You must be an FCA parent. Hope your last name is Kelly or you write 100k checks to FCA. If not your kid may not get any playing time

Nope, completely wrong, not FCA. Funny how Crabs parents are so quick to push back and try and downgrade another program when they know they involved with the cesspool of youth grade base lacrosse.

Must be Looney's then.... Must feel great to have your kid play on a bar team... I hear they may change their name to chicos bail bonds

The 2015 Crabs 2020 team has players who went to Hawks, Next Level, 91MD, FCA, Looneys, etc. Including the MVP of the WSYL semifinal game. Don't expect to be there long if you don't re-class.

Yeah what complete losers! Trying to grow the game at a community grassroots level. I really wish community establishments would get out of youth sports so they can all be run as for profit industries. That would be so much better. You know everything is better when it involves a bottom line with youth sports.

You get my sarcasm? Would rather play on Chico's team that has some integrity.

Yeah what complete losers! Trying to grow the game at a community grassroots level. I really wish community establishments would get out of youth sports so they can all be run as for profit industries. That would be so much better. You know everything is better when it involves a bottom line with youth sports.

You get my sarcasm? Would rather play on Chico's team that has some integrity.

Looney's? Integrity? Hahahaha. Yes, I do get your sarcasm!

I'm not associated with Looney's but that team has so much more integrity than Crabs ever will. Just look at the person who founded Crabs and runs their for profit part of the program. There is where his interest is focused. That and the holdback scam that he runs, you know, older and bigger kids are always going to make him look like a great coach, which he isn't.
Just watch old Ryan at a game, his lacrosse IQ is very low.
As for bar teams, Looney's, Green Turtle, Koopers, they all have so much more integrity than
Crabs or their leader ever will. And it appears that the parents fall right into the same category. You need to reach down and pull your head out to see what is really going on.

The holdbacks will change. The 2020 team only kept a few kids on the team from just 2 years ago. They brought down 3 from the 2019 team from last year as well as having another several kids repeat a grade to go from other clubs as 2019 players to Crabs 2020. Hope your kid doesn't end up being one of the kids left out in the future.

Looney's kicked a junior and a sophomore team to the curb, forcing those parents to scramble. That's real integrity for you.

No, they did not kick them to the curb. Both teams were weak, this was explained to the parents/players and they were upfront with them. Rather than put them in any league where they would not do well at all, they gave them a chance to find other clubs to play for and have an opportunity to grow.
That is much better than just putting them in a league and not be able to perform. That is showing integrity and honesty.

Do you think king Crab daddy would have done this in the same situation? I'd say no, he would just take their money and slowly bring in older players to replace them.
Crab parents/fans are just as obnoxious and disgraceful as the leader of the cesspool, Ryan M. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, again.

Dude you are a fucktard...

The youngest Crabs team is 2023, so these kids are 10 years old and most likely at this point have not been held back.
However, moving forward in the Crabs program, at some point, usually when they are approaching 7th or 8th grade, many will be approached and advised that if they wish to remain with the program they will need to repeat a grade.
This is how Ryan M works the grade base system and if you look at Crabs 2021 and especially the 2020 team for this year, there are many holdbacks. The 2020 team even has two double holdbacks.
This is the sole reason why Crabs is a target, is simply because they violate the true spirit of grade base lacrosse.
Yes, other parents will, at times, [lacrosse] about
Crabs, but it is simply for the reason they violate the system. When a team does lose to Crabs, most do not count it as a loss, they simply know that they played a team much older and bigger, again, how Ryan McClernan "works" the system.
Most club teams have holdbacks, usually 1 to 3, but Crabs 2020 has a crap load of holdbacks. Go watch this team, you can look at the players and quickly tell they are not 13 or 14 years old, most are approaching 15 by this spring and a few close to 16.
Why parents would let their kids participate in this kind environment is beyond me. This is not teaching them proper life lessons.
The above info is correct as we know of several players on 2020 who were approached and asked to repeat a grade to remain with Crabs. There is no way I would ever let my son play for this organization and he has no desire to. He plays with another 2020 elite team that has a few holdbacks, and they were for pure academic reasons, not for lacrosse.

That's probably the dumbest thing you've said since your last post.

Who cares about that tournament? It is a sham. Last year, it only had two decent teams (albeit the 2 best in the US). The rest of the field was terrible.

With the exception of the TV angle, it is basically like the [lacrosse]'s tournament - a faraway tournament with 2-3 really good teams and the rest are garbage. That's a lot to make parents pay just so that they can brag in the carpool line that their son was on TV.

If the tournament was held on the East Coast and you could get the best teams from the tri-state are and mid-atlantic, it would be a much different story.