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When will the final 2020 bracket for HoCo be announced and the schedule?

Strange that so many kids (see: Crabs) want to play down for club, but then play "up" on varsity as a 9th grader. Playing up at school is a badge of honor, but then pushed to play down for club.

THIS. PLEASE.

I'm so tired or reading the d*** measuring contest the dads on this board are engaging in, I would just like to start the season up and see how the boys play on the field.

There's no measuring going on with dads. Half of them can't see their toes....like the King Crab! That's why their on this board living through their sons. Newsflash...put down the burger and exercise.

What club does your kid play for? Big shot slinging garbage and personally attacking a club and coach in an anonymous forum. Cowardly but expected....

Cowardly but expected. That should be the CRABS t-shirts this season.

OWN IT!

Must be a chunker that can't see his toes getting defensive. My son was a D1 AA and never played for any Baltimore club. Thank goodness. You people are crazy and delusional. Just enjoy the game. Don't hold your kids back for sports...there's no money in lacrosse. Don't believe the hype and sign up for every "showcase"...90% r money grabs. Ask yourself these questions:

1) is my kid a good student? If not, most lacrosse opportunities are gone.
2) is my kid fast? Unless a goalie, if your answer is no then your kid will not play at the next level.
3) does my kid have good cardio? If no, kid will not play at next level.
4) is my kid a competitor that fights to the end...tough..be honest? If not, no chance.

What this means is. Enjoy your sons time playing. Don't live through them. The majority of all these kids will not play D1 lacrosse. Of the ones that do have gifts, very few will receive much scholarship. Regardless of which team wins 8th grade title....the majority of kids on that team will not play at next level. Enjoy these years because high school will be last time you watch most of these kids play. That is, excluding many kids that can play D2, D3. Now go for a run fat dad.

i prefer pleasantly plump

The HoCo league has a set of rules and those rules include player eligibility. If hold backs are not in violation of the phrase "assuming normal progression of school to graduation??" then what could this possibly mean?

Exact wording from the rules:
"The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation. "

There is no "normal". Everyone is special. Way too vague to enforce anything.

Normal would be the Maryland State Age for school entry which and what a reasonable person would expect when allowing their child to play - a deviation from that in the state of Maryland would be not normal for a Maryland based league. Law is generally based on what a reasonable person would expect and no reasonable person would expect a kid that is turning 16 this spring to be in 8th grade.

Hoco league prediction

Crabs 5-1
Looneys 4-2
91 3-3
Fca 3-3
Rising sons 3-3
Hawks 2-4
NL 1-5

That's about right but NL won't win and Crabs won't lose. Looney's probably 5-1, FCA, 91, and Sons will be a toss up. Should be fun.

Crabs 2018/19 team pretending to be a 2020 team should run the table.

Howard County Recreation is a joke. Wonder who got them to start a grade based league when All their other programs and leagues are based on age. The private school influence? Maybe a Department head has his kids in a MIAA school? Or he wants his kid to go there? No other reason as most holdbacks are in private schools. Howard County Recreation department is the match that lit the torch of Youth holdback lacrosse in MD. Prior to this all youth teams were age base. Hall of Shame goes to Howard County.

I hope this is an exaggeration. What parent really think their son should be in 8th gr as a 16 yr old? It must be fun to have friends that are 13-14! Talk about stunting your kid, academically, socially and emotionally- all in the name of a sport that barely pays out much scholarship wise. It's like a deal with the devil. Parents need to think like adults and not live through their kids. This nonsense has to stop- not for the game, but the well being of the kids!

The fact that you are saying with a serious face that Crabs 2020 has kids who should be sophomores in HS shows how delusional and jealous you are.

Seriously. It's youth ball. Get over yourself.

At least two double holbacks on Crabs. I won't even get into massive amount of 2019ers in their line up. Complete joke.

Its youth ball - let's have it played by youths

They have a player turning 16 this spring who has a learners permit! Several other players who were legitimate 2019s and held back. Lots of summer birthdays on that team. Everyone knows it and yes, they should win because of a team loaded with older kids and it is expected. The problem most folks have is that you continue to deny the facts and claim to be winners. Do not think there is one jealous person as you state- rather lose a game than our integrity.

Would be wrong to post the kid's name or initials. The other players in question are "just" one year held back. Just do what most others do now and laugh at how pathetic it is and let them collect their "wins" while their parents go crazy.

Crabs starting line up has how many kids that should be in HS?

Might be a stretch saying that should be sophomores..but it is the truth that many should be freshman in HS. Having a team of older kids constantly playing against teams of younger kids goes against everything youth athletics stands for...And just like you wrote " It's youth ball. Get over yourself" ...

No, it's elite club lacrosse and this group of 2020s will be looked at very closely over the next 2-3 years. You are gaming the system to make your kids look better than they would if they played on age. Anyone who say this is something different is lying to themselves or the rest of us.

Nothing will be done regarding "older" holdbacks like on Crabs 2020 team. The Howard County lacrosse conference commissioner, Derrick Thompson is gutless and will take no action to make this right, especially regarding Crabs 2020 team.
He has the ability to do the right thing before the season starts this Saturday but unfortunately nothing will be done.
Nice job Derrick Thompson, no ba*ls to do it right, maybe you are tight with Ryan McClernan, the king cheater/assho*e of the Crabs program/2020 team. Plus Crabs 2021 team is just as bad on older holdbacks.

I heard the Loonies FOGO is playing for his HS team. According to HOCO rules he is ineligible to play:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation. Players who are participating in any high-school level program such as a high school freshman, JV-B, junior varsity, varsity or club team should not be eligible for 8th grade/U15 competition in the same season.

FOGO only plays in summer.

The Crabs 2020 team could beat the Crabs 2019 team.

Plus he is in the 8th grade, but playing on the varsity team.

Hey Derrick Thompson, where are you, we are all waiting to hear from you. We know you come on this forum, so speak up.
Oh, thats right, you are just chicken sh*t about doing the right think for the kids in the HOCO league. And to think, you are an employee of Howard County and are paid by Howard County.
What a waste of taxpayers money.

Tough guy. The solution is simple, Don't play in Hoco if you don't like the rules. Only problem is you are to chicken sh-t to do it.

Ok Crab dad, what it boils down to is you are way to chicken sh*t to admit you are part of a scumbag program.

And if you are not part of the Crabs crap, you are simply not smart enough to see what is going on and how this is ruining youth lacrosse.

Derrick, is this you? If it is, you are not saying much.

any on age Freshmen make Varsity teams this year? Maybe Public but I doubt Private. if so, i'd like to get their input on playing against holdbacks.

Is this something new that kids are being held back in school?? I never heard of such a thing

Well thank God you are out there doing your part to save Lacrosse

Hey I am a Crabs DAD and I all for removing Holdbacks and going age based. Total mystery on how US Lacrosse is going to make every club team conform by Sept 2017... Should be interesting

[/quote] Well thank God you are out there doing your part to save Lacrosse [/quote]

people like you are ruining youth sports, stop living your life through your sons athletic achievements

Instead of someone like you who has no clue and has their head stuck up their .....

men playing youth ball, thats the delusion. We have kids that are 13 and wont turn 14 till July. And we are playing in this league. Against kids who hit puberty early, are big kids and are old kids. Its one thing when a kid is a late bloomer and he reclasses. Crabs has kids that were early bloomers, are big kids and now are 2 years older? sickening.

Keep crying.