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I saw a girl (no YJ involvement) take a hit to the head that required stitches this weekend. Refs called nothing and allowed the goal. Ref apologized to her mom, saying, "Sorry, Mom, I didn't see it so I couldn't make the call." The girl is dripping blood, obviously she got hit, ref wouldn't make the call.

The point being refs are not perfect (quite possibly the understatment of the year). If the ref didn't see the hit, or wasn't sure, perhaps he/she wasn't comfortable making the call (which sounds ridiculous but there you have it).

So from my POV, saying there was no intent because the ref didn't make the call is not an argument that holds water 100%. I wasn't there, I didn't see the play, all I'm saying is refs make mistakes so your argument has flaws.

You people are pathetic ,either offer up some proof ie a video of the so called thugs instead of your speculation that they must be dirty because some kids have gotten hurt while playing against them, are you really that ignorant.Feel free to watch some YJ games from last year at the U15 championships , did not see any dirty play.

I saw a girl (no YJ involvement) take a hit to the head that required stitches this weekend. Refs called nothing and allowed the goal. Ref apologized to her mom, saying, "Sorry, Mom, I didn't see it so I couldn't make the ca

I heard that it was in fact a yj player guest playing on that team and that she used hidden nunchucks to strike the girls head while screamin "cr made me do this"

Actually i personally witnessed this and i played d1 lacrosse for 7 years so you know im trustworthy. Oh, and the refs werent even on the field for this game.








ll." The girl is dripping blood, obviously she got hit, ref wouldn't make the call.

The point being refs are not perfect (quite possibly the understatment of the year). If the ref didn't see the hit, or wasn't sure, perhaps he/she wasn't comfortable making the call (which sounds ridiculous but there you have it).

So from my POV, saying there was no intent because the ref didn't make the call is not an argument that holds water 100%. I wasn't there, I didn't see the play, all I'm saying is refs make mistakes so your argument has flaws.

To be fair, the team is very physical and aggressive. They are intimidating and have very talented athletes. Are they the best anymore? It's up for debate. The fact is, that teams and girls progress and mature at different rates/ages....The best/fastest kids at 12 years old might not be at so at 15 years old. It's possible some kids from these other programs have caught up and even surpassed the girls on the YJ club...There is nothing wrong with that. Perhaps it will motivate some of their girls to work harder and improve their skills....

Good luck to them and all LI teams in FL!!!! You parents all should be proud of the girls....

Forget red cards.......there is a HUGE liability issue for the tournament directors, field owner, players parents and the players organization. If there was any intent to injure, there is the real possibilty of law suit/litigation. Girls/boys carrying a stick which can be used as a weapon is a problem waiting to happen. Without proper coaching/parenting this will be a problem in the future.

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
You people are pathetic ,either offer up some proof ie a video of the so called thugs instead of your speculation that they must be dirty because some kids have gotten hurt while playing against them, are you really that ignorant.Feel free to watch some YJ games from last year at the U15 championships , did not see any dirty play.


To be fair, the team is very physical and aggressive. They are intimidating and have very talented athletes. Are they the best anymore? It's up for debate. The fact is, that teams and girls progress and mature at different rates/ages....The best/fastest kids at 12 years old might not be at so at 15 years old. It's possible some kids from these other programs have caught up and even surpassed the girls on the YJ club...There is nothing wrong with that. Perhaps it will motivate some of their girls to work harder and improve their skills....

Good luck to them and all LI teams in FL!!!! You parents all should be proud of the girls....


Here the problem with Pete M and the Yellow Jackets. I have been watching Pete M for years since our girls were in 5th grade. His daughter always played out in Mt Sinai in the winter and is the nicest girl you want to meet. What I have always notice is that his team and the girls he coaches when losing always reverted to stop the play take the foul and stop the play to get better position. Checking the girls stick when stick checking is not allowed. So the result is 11 year old girl learning how to intimidate on the field. Now as the girls get older intimidation factor multiplies and goes to full body check. Such as what happen in the Skywalker game. The girl probability knows what she did was wrong but she did what she was trained to do and that was stop the play. What Pete M did was teach these kids how to Bully on the field and it is very wrong. You’re correct this will fade because at this age and with good parental support we are teaching our kids to stand up to bullies and only then they will fade away.
Get over yourself .Talk about someone who wants to hear themselves talk,blah blah bully blah blah

Waiver???? Do you really think that signing that stupid piece of paper protects anyone!!!! Get real!!!! It is not hard to imagine that at some point a parent, child, tournament director, club director etc will have to hire attorneys to defend themselves as a result of a devestating injury suffered by a player. Accident? Insurance will assign a liability percentage and go after the entity with the depest pockets. Intentional? That litigation will get nasty. Dont think it can happen? We will see.

Didn't a parent call the police during the Stony Brook tournament last fall (or early spring?)? I wasn't there but I remember hearing about it. The parent felt his daughter was assaulted on the field and wanted action.

The parent in question did call police; after being told that his daughter was PUNCHED in the jaw by an opposing player. If that is so.....then police action was warranted. However......the alleged assailant and her parents and her team did a . great job of circling the wagons and no legal action was taken. It was later learned that the alleged had committed to a D3 school and feared the loss of her roster spot. To punch an opposing player then fail to admit it is despicable upon all parties involved. If any of my players who do such an act; they are on their own.

The parent in question did call police; after being told that his daughter was PUNCHED in the jaw by an opposing player. If that is so.....then police action was warranted. However......the alleged assailant and her parents and her team did a . great job of circling the wagons and no legal action was taken. It was later learned that the alleged had committed to a D3 school and feared the loss of her roster spot. To punch an opposing player then fail to admit it is despicable upon all parties involved. If any of my players who do such an act; they are on their own.

i just want to add that yellow jackets have won the U-15s for the past two years which were all with modified checking, so no one should be complaining that they are only taught to check

I heard the YJ are hypnotized to attack when they hear the song "Relax" from Frankie Goes to Hollywood - like in the movie "Zoolander" and kill the prime minister of Malaysia

Why can't all summer (and HS games for that matter) be played with modified checking rules and stringent 3 second or 2 second rule on a "checkable" stick? Wouldnt that in many cases eliminate many of the uncontrollable stick checks around the head? Granted the defense would be at a disadvantage but the game would have fewer whistles (especially during transition) and girls would be able to play the game without fear of getting a head shot. All of this aggressive play is going to lead to
helmets for the girls and if I want to see body checking and swinging sticks then I can go watch a boys game for my fix.

I believe you are incorrect the U15 championship is full checking , using modified checking is ridiculous at the older age groups, would be impossible to play defense, hard enough as is.Give them some form of helmet , increase the penalty for stick to head contact ie. remove offending player for rest of game,3 minutes man down.

If you start adding helmets you start down a slippery slope. Gloves and armpads will be next and you will then have a sport full of Bulls mowing each other over.

I believe you are incorrect the U15 championship is full checking , using modified checking is ridiculous at the older age groups, would be impossible to play defense, hard enough as is.Give them some form of helmet , increase the penalty for stick to head contact ie. remove offending player for rest of game,3 minutes man down.

LMAO!! Either that or Keyser Soze (Usual Suspects) has put together this team of 14 year old criminals to carry out his sinister plan to wipe out all other 2015 girls lax teams!... and of course kill the prime minister of Malasia!!

That sounds reasonable except it will only promote more of the acting that is already ruining the game! I don't think I can stomache watching more girls grab their head when the stick isn't near them! If you do that you will need to start hiring drama coaches for every coaching staff!

It is modified checking at U -15!!

That's funny huh. I bet the injured girl thinks so too. The facts and chronic occurrences of unsportsmanlike play are overwhelming. You can keep deflecting the focus and make jokes and point to D1 placement lists but the fact remains your club as a whole garner zero respect from the entire lacrosse community. Trust me when I say the college coaches and US lacrosse have taken notice.