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Next year they can have the <Reference Removed> Tournament

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What about that 2017 Baker team??

This is very coincidental. There was much discussion before this tournament about how this team is dirty and then a kid on the opposing team gets badly injured. Did anyone see it, was it an accident?

My feeling is this occurs too frequently to be purely coincidence. Where there is smoke, there is fire. And there's a [lacrosse] of a lot of smoke surrounding this team. You hear a lot of the same stories from unrelated sources, the only common denominator being the team and its roughness.

It was an accident 50/50 ground ball collision!

Of course they will be there next year and so will everyone else. All the ridiculous bashing on this site won't change their status.

Stick check that hit a wrist was actually two years ago and a different girl. Don't know anything more about that but was most certainly an accident also.

When two girls are both moving to a ground ball and both reach it at the same time I would call that 50 50 and I'm not sure why that means that one girl was more aggressive than the other. Simply an unfortunate accident.

Unrelated sources? How do you know if they are all anonymous.

They're not anonymous when I'm talking to them face to face at games and parties and here and there.

I played boys for 2 years in Jr. High, 4 years high school, & 4 years D1 college. My daughter has played for 7 years for a grand total of 17 years. In those 17 years I have seen 1 broken bone, A goalie on my daughters team broke her pinky saving a shot. So for you to defend your club by saying it was 2 different players over the course of 3 years in a limited contact sport is kind of solidifying the argument that your club plays a dirty brand of lacrosse.

That's because they are chicken. Lets see if M and D comes to the LI showcase on July 28th, They will get their butts kicked!!!

M and D struggled against YJ last year. You did not see YJ even talking about them on this site. M and D is a great club just like YJ. So you got the best of them this year and they got the best of you last year congrats to both!!

Congrats to all YJ teams who participated the club had an amazing showing for a great cause!!

2012 CHAMPIONS

2013:
1st: YJ Blue, 2nd: Metro
2014:
1st: YJ Blue, 2nd: Greene Turtle
2015:
1st: Capital Blue, 2nd: Skywalkers
2016:
1st: YJ Blue, 2nd: STEPS 16 White
2017:
1st: YJ Blue, 2nd STEPS 17 White
2018/19/20:
1st: YJ 2018, 2nd: T3 North

LAX-RAISING CHAMPIONS
Top Team: STEPS 2018 Blue
Top Player: Gianna Guttilla
2013
Team: Capital
1st: Hannah Thomas, 2nd: Carley Sane
2014
Team: YJ 2014 Blue Jones
1st: Kayla Murphy, 2nd: Vala Molamusa
2015:
Team: STEPS Blue
1st: Kristen Maiorano, 2nd: Charley Orner
2016:
Team: STEPS White
1st: Kate Matz, 2nd: Lindsay Haas
2017
Team: STEPS Blue
1st: Anna DiSibio, 2nd: Elizabeth Navin
2018/19/20
Team: STEPS 18 Blue
1st: Gianna Guttilla, 2nd: Anna Parks
PINK WINNERS!!
Friday: SJS Pink 2017
Saturday: Central Mass

The quote above was written last week. And from what I just read, there was a broken bone and massive bruising this weekend in the 2015 blue lm game. If all the players on that team were asked if dirty play has ever been encouraged, I wonder what the response would be?

Congrats to YJ 2013 and 2014 on your Lax for Cure Championships!!!!
Almost a complete sweep for YJ Nation!!!

Agree. 2014 Blue(Thorn) team beat M&D 2013 Black team @ the ND 2 weeks ago on the final.

Picture the scene: This girl is getting carted off the field completely crippled with parents in tow to hospital and they have to walk through all the YJ parents wearing "Fear the Bee" Tee Shirts. Logo starts to take on a new meaning these days.

I want to sum this up so I get a clear picture of the events for the Yellow Jacket Blue LM team. First they played at Lax Inception in MD and lost to Sky-walkers. Than they played Top Guns at the National Draw in NJ of which they won 5 to 4 but the competition was so close and good they started to hack, push and swing there stick. Almost breaking a girls hand with a slash and breaking a girl’s wrist with a violent push in the last minute of the game. They went lose to M&D in the next round of the finals. Now I’m hearing that the Yellow Jacket Blue LM played Sky-walkers again and lost 6 to 5. Again in the last minutes of the game they reverted to another violent push breaking a girl’s leg and tearing her ACL. And to make matters worse the tournament organizer marked the game as a tie only to change the final score board back to a 6 to 5 win for the Sky-walkers two days later. Something is very wrong with the Yellow Jacket organization and someone needs to report these events to US Lacrosse. This team and organization is destroying this game of Girls Lacrosse. I would also suggest that M&D check their health insurance, because the way I see it if they play Yellow Jackets Blue LM again they will need it and I’m not trying to be funny. Now I’m hearing that in a game last year the same girl who push the girl with the broken leg and torn ACL was also involved in pushing a girl and breaking her wrist. This coach Pete M needs to stop.

M&D won three of the four divisions at National Draw and had a total of 5 teams in the 4 final games. They did all that without sending anybody to the hospital. Imagine that? Why do they need to travel to Long Island to do it again?

Not true. I was there. Not a 50/50 ball. Girl from skywalkers was about 5 feet ahead of getting the ball. YJ girl came into her body for one reason--to slow the girl's body down by hitting her. That's a fact. The YJ girl was not making attempt for the ball. If she was, she would not have impacted the SW girl where she did. The player has a torn acl, torn meniscus and a broken leg. The ER doc asked what kind of car hit her. That's pretty much the extent of it. There is zero defense here.

No one from the yellow jackets team has contacted the girl's family to inquire about her. That is the kind of classless club we are dealing with. Also-- not true that the broken wrist story is from two years ago. It happened just a few weeks ago to a girl from Top Guns.

"Picture the scene: This girl is getting carted off the field completely crippled with parents in tow to hospital and they have to walk through all the YJ parents wearing "Fear the Bee" Tee Shirts. Logo starts to take on a new meaning these days."
The award for biggest Drama Queen goes too....
Yes it is very sad a kid got hurt and nobody wants to see it happen but all of you who are suggesting anything intentional was behind it are pathetic.

It was an accident. It's on video! Stop making this girl out to be a cheap player. It is terrible that the girl got hurt. It is devastating. If she didn't get hurt no one would have thought twice about it. It is 2 girls going after the ball.

post the video so we can all see and make our own minds up

Let's roll the tape then an we can see for ourselves.

If they cant check legsally, Yellow Jacket players will intentionally foul another player to stop them from moving upfield. I have often seen this personally and heard the cheers from thrnparetns supporting it. It is no doubt a policy endorsed the YJ organization.

BOTC will never allow the video to be posted because there going to say it shows the girl and everyone will see who she is. The will allow every club t post names of girls that commit to schools or score goals , but I seriously doubt they are going to let us see the face of some thug so we all know who to watch out for. I'm sure thats what the Y.J. parents are counting on

So the yellow Jackets have put two girls in the hospital in two weeks, guess that is OK. Class coach as well. One did not even shake the other clubs had. Hope you are proud.

I think you cheep shot the wrong girl this time.

It was no intent to go for the ball. She took her out the video, to US Lacrosse shows it clearly.

Yellow Jackets should not be defined by the actions of one coach or team. Clearly everyone on this thread has an issue with PM and the 2015 blue team. Carol Rose is one person in the entire organization who can be seen at all tournaments dancing under tents with the kids, painting her hair with the younger kids, or simply riding her bike around smiling and talking to all the kids who approach her. As a graduated player from the program I have seen the many sides of CR and the Yelliw Jackets program and at the end of a D1 career I can say the love she shows the girls in the program far surpasses any other money making organization. She cares about the girls from start to finish. Do the YJ play aggressive no more aggressive then M&D and Skywalkers. Do people get hurt yes unfortunately they do it's like any other sport accidents happen. Are some coaches more aggressive on the sidelines then others absolutely but it doesn't make the YJ a bad place to grow up playing. I can only hope when I have kids that I can become a part of the program as a parent. Please stop bashing an entire organization and it's director over one teams actions. If you weren't there and witnessed it personally you do not know what happened. From what I know or heard from my younger sister the sidelines were not overfilled with the hundreds of people who are constantly belittling this team. As adults our kids will learn from us in my opinion it's summer time go outside and plant or lay by your pool leave the YJ alone. If TG had this happen would you ostracize SS. CR is one tough cookie for taking all this crap and still smiling!!

Some thoughts as to what "BOTC will allow".

First, this conversation has gone beyond the vindictive level regarding the intent to cause injury. BOTC has relaunched the discussion about helmets and such in many ways tied to this particular discussion. Let's keep the discussion on the "lessons learned" and what can be done to improve safety.

Second, videos that have been presented on BOTC are generally hosted through other sites such as You Tube. We reserve the right to protect identities of individual players; in this case, we suspect that the reason one would want to post the video here on BOTC is not to prove the player innocent, but to further fan the flames. We would not permit such a video attacking the Liberty, Top Guns, or any particular organization or player - similarly, we would not allow such with the Yellow Jackets.

Is it wrong to pull my daughter and not let her play if I know they’re going to play the Yellow Jacket Blue LM? Think about it? My daughter and others on her team and girls from other clubs like M&D, Skywalker, Maryland United are very good players. We are all evenly matched and in the past and won and lost to all clubs mentioned above. We had some great conversation on the side lines with parents from all club teams except Yellow Jackets. Is it worth it for more injuries and to jeopardize a possibility for collage recruitment?

As for contacting US Lacrosse, Harry Jacobs is a personal friend of BOTC and if you feel you have material which will be of interest to US Lacrosse and/or the Long Island Metropolitan Lacrosse Foundation, we can arrange for that content to be provided to these organizations. Please do not be shy; US Lacrosse will be listening if (and we repeat if) you have material of importance on this issue. Please supply the You Tube link to the content to us via cagesage@backofthecage.com.

Yes remove her if you want and/ or forfeit the game. You can start TG in florida if you have to play them!! You TG people are obsessed with YJ and CR you need to move onto something better to do with yourselves.

YJ was never ejected from any tourney and NO player ever red carded for unsportsmanlike behavior so all this nonsense and bashing of one team is ridiculous. Get a life!!

What makes you think I’m from TG. You presumption are incorrect I could be from Liberty or The Wave or Express or even SCGL. What we’re talking about is that there seems to be a team in the 2015 age group that has no regards for the rules and all they see is the win at all cost even if they have breaks some bones in the process.

The Newsday article from this last weekend's edition discussing girls helmets points to the fact that the women's collegiate game is getting substantially more physical; the finesse game is rapidly becoming a thing of the past, good or bad. Expecting collegiate lacrosse to be playing with this "sphere" concept long term is not practical without stronger officiating.

The question here is how does one respond to the more athletic and therefore more physical nature of college lacrosse. Certainly, pulling your student-athlete from the field in major showcases will not be the right answer if you have intentions of playing for NCAA Division I national powerhouse teams.

I don't feel helmets are the answer, it will only make the aggressive play even more aggressive. I think a simple asnswer is maybe US lacrosse should put more teeth into the consequences of yellow and red cards, like two yellow cards in two games means a two game suspension, and four cards in a season means a four games suspension, etc. Additionally, if a team has a certain amount of combined yellow cards, then the team should not be allowed to play in certain tournaments. these are just some quick ideas.

I would guess that this would clean up the game by making coaches and players more sensitive to how they are playing, and it would keep the "too aggressive" players on the sidelines watching.

Correct but we’re not talking about head injuries. We’re talking about broken bones. I know accident happen but what I have seen and heard this is not an accident it is an act solely to stop the play and if a girl get hurt? Oh well, that’s the game.

Your assumption is that there is a standard for reporting cards into US Lacrosse; further, you are assuming that all yellow and red cards are being reported or recorded for processing after the final whistle blows. Even if the recording of data was accurate, how would your multiple game suspensions be processed between tournaments?

We're you at the game?

Really? And put more power in the refs hands? No thank you. The refs in this sport are the worst as a group I have seen in any sport! The subjectivity and inconsistency from ref to ref is part of the problem. With the amount of yellow cards being given out there will be no one on the roster left to play! That goes for all the clubs!!