BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Girls 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016

Whoever you are u deserve that guy to walk up to your door and punch you in the face in front of your wife and kids...you my anonymous friend are a tool

Don't be so sensitive. Topic started out saying that many schools want to guide you in to certain majors. There is one top 10 team that has half of their seniors still listed as undecided. To the young lady listed above congratulations. For the majority of others who are not 5 star studs its safe to say that they might be guided to lesser majors

did you just call him a DK?...or a [lacrosse]?...oh, same thing...

Before I get called a troll or whatever ,does it concern anyone that the recruiting for the TG 2017 and 2018 did not seem to be very strong as in 1) not a high number of kids, 29 for both years 2) not a lot of high caliber lacrosse schools 3)other than a few ivies (which is awesome) not a lot of high level academic schools. Add in that while other clubs have 19's committing and getting a lot of interest TG not so much.Seems as if the 2015-2016 groups were in line with other clubs but since has fallen off. Am I reading too much into it or should I be concerned.

Colleges recruit players... some clubs have more players than others... if your daughter can play. TG, YJ, Elevate they will be found* and recruited.
*Found = a whole lot of work/emails/visits/camps/clinics/prospect days done by the player and parents

Before I get called a troll or whatever ,does it concern anyone that the recruiting for the TG 2017 and 2018 did not seem to be very strong as in 1) not a high number of kids, 29 for both years 2) not a lot of high caliber lacrosse schools 3)other than a few ivies (which is awesome) not a lot of high level academic schools. Add in that while other clubs have 19's committing and getting a lot of interest TG not so much.Seems as if the 2015-2016 groups were in line with other clubs but since has fallen off. Am I reading too much into it or should I be concerned.

Oh yeah should a parent go to the college prospect days and the girls play. Do your kid a favor be a positive influence on the process.

Hey Troll...why are you posting this on the 2020 forum?

Hey douchie, posted it here because my kid is a 2020 and the recruiting process starts now (unfortunately ) for this age group. The old standard "colleges recruit players not teams "all sounds good but seems like the top lax/academic schools are not recruiting players from different clubs equally. Is that because YJ truly gets the best players and college coaches realize that, is it because CR has strong relationships with the colleges, do they do a better job marketing kids, go to the right tournaments, why?

Recruiters would make a huge mistake by only taking girls from certain programs. That's nonsense. Their job is to recruit. If a girl is good, she will be recruited because she is good. If a girl shines on a poor team she will be noticed that much more.

[quote=Anonymous]Sheila Nesselbush, Northwestern:
2015: One of just two position players to start all 21 games ... All-Big Ten ... IWLCA Second-Team All-West/Midwest ... Named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week on February 9 ... Proved to be the Wildcats' most consistent player end to end, leading the Wildcats with 36 ground balls, finishing second with 65 draw controls and ranking fourth on the team with 27 goals ... Ranked fifth in the Big Ten in draw controls per game (3.10) ... Recorded nine multi-goal games, including three hat tricks and a career-high four goals in Northwestern's 16-11 NCAA Tournament win over Notre Dame ... Led the Wildcats with a pair of goals and an assist in the NCAA Tournament quarterfinals against No. 1 Maryland ... Had a season-high seven draw controls against Marquette and Penn State ... Picked up a season-high four ground balls against Syracuse and at Notre Dame ... Scored a pair of game-winning goals and finished the season 7-for-10 on free-position opportunities ... Academic All-Big Ten.

MAJOR: ENGINEERING

So no, they r not all the bench sitters. I will happily find plenty more there, at Stanford, Duke, Princeton and others if you like. Some schools are a great mix of academics and great lacrosse. Others not so much. But to wave your hand indiscriminately over everyone does a disservice to some of these amazing young women that are accomplishing great things on and off the field.

(Cue the snarky "Thanks mom" comments)
[/quoteI did some research. I looked at the top 5 schools MD,UNC,Duke,FLAl. and Cuse along with Stanford, Princeton, Yale, Cornell. Duke and Princeton do not tell majors for students. out of the rest, there were 61 undeclared majors. Stan led the way with 19 followed by UMD with 17. There was 1 Nursing major(unc), 2 pre med (cuse), 1 engineering (fla). There are 22sport related majors. There are 4 schools that quite obviously steer there students to certain majors Fla. (social and behavioral science), UNC (journalism and mass communication), Cuse(sports and human dynamics), Cornell (hotel management)

The Cornell Hotel School is arguably the best on the country for that major.

Why are majors being discussed on a post about 8th grade girls lacrosse?

Because lacrosse recruiting begins ridiculously early and we are trying to educate you people about to enter this phase.

There is maybe 5 2020 kids that will get recruited next year . Other parents including myself will have to wait

If you say so Sherlock. Free books or 4g doesn't count as recruiting and was talking about 20s

go to a college for education and if it happens to have a great girls lacrosse team, icing on the cake then. not sure how many girls turn pro after graduating from college. go to the best school that your daughter can get into, the degree is all that counts. maybe her lacrosse ability will help open a door to a great college that her grades on merit would not have been high enough to get in.

IN theory getting into a reach school because of lacrosse is great but don't underestimate the amount of time required for big time D1 lax. There are reports that team will require double the amount of time that school requires. If you stretch academically and play keeping your grades up might be a challenge.

Stay within the major you want at a school that fits and if the lacrosse works out all the better

Here are the bottom 10 D1 girls programs. You will find girls taking tougher majors here than you will in the top 10. They are playing some real weak lacrosse and could get beat by lots of D2 and D3 schools but to their credit the kids are probably playing there getting some money and taking the major they wanted. Not everyone can be a national champion.

UMass Lowell
Stetson
St. Bonaventure
Mercer
Presbyterian
St. Mary's (CA)
Saint Francis (PA)
Howard
Gardner-Webb

And not everyone NEEDS to be a national champion. In the grand scheme of things a degree will get you a lot further in life than a lax national championship! Education should ALWAYS come first!

Many many hs athletes do not transition well in to college life for many reasons
This is more relevant to athletes
You need to prepare yourself for the fact that some who are used to being the big dog
May no even sniff the turf for a few years

And remember
You are NOT interviewing for a position,
you are the Interviewer.
You are the one seeking out what you want, not the other way around.

Top 20 programs own you morning noon and night 365 days a year. You are in that school to play lacrosse period. School is clearly second with kids guided into easy majors they have no interest in. Pick a mid to low D1 or D2 program for a nice lax / school / social life balance. They are still playing a game and in 4 years it is over

Pick D3 not D2 ... A good education comes first. There are lots of top academic D3 schools. D2, not so much. Now all the D2 people are going to start screaming, but sorry, that's the facts.

DING DING DING ... know plenty of people who think that because Stanford etc has taken their daughter for lax, that they are set for life. Be careful with that notion. First of all, most of the girls get steered away from the majors that a place like Stanford actually matters for (read things like computer science/engineering) and into softer/easier majors. Secondly, as this poster rightly says, many of these girls would have no chance of getting into Stanford w/o lax and therefore may find the workload, combined w the huge lax commitment overwhelming. Many parents think because their kid got good or even very good grades in HS and decent test scores that they could get into Harvard/Stanford anyway. Not a chance. Those schools reject 80% of the 4.0s and perfect test scores they receive.

Find the appropriate fit, both academically and for lax.