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Stop I am not angry just telling it like it is PT is the #1 organization north of Long Island and the 2nd best organization isn't close to us. We beat everyone in the area #1.

Happy PT parent

That may have been true. And true for some teams. But clearly that is changing at a rapid pace. Especially at the younger ages

You don't think Express North is up there? I find that hard to believe, their 2018 just as good if not better than PT and the 2019 team far exceeds PT 2019. As far as the younger grades, it's a crapshoot for both organization.

I'm glad your happy with your program but let's not be delusional.

Things in Westchester/CT are changing very quickly. Every club will stumble in a given age/class.

To a certain extent this is a good thing. More/better competition helps the development of all the kids. But there is a point of saturation at which it all becomes watered down. You'll know that time has arrived when clubs merge and/or buy each other.

The clubs which can consistently add value will flourish. That includes quality instruction (first and foremost), scheduling, recruitment, and player promotion (college commitment). The clubs that just roll a ball out there and let the kids play will eventually fade away.

Unfortunately it's all our opinions, but PT has been on top since knocking Superstars off the perch years ago. Each organization may have a strong team at a certain age but PT overall is #1 north of LI. This summer will hopefully clear things up.

so - what i find really intersting and i heard this first hand- Daniello approached Roy Colsey and tries to merge the 2 organizations. Colsey told him no.

I bet that has a lot to do about the American Lacrosse Academy and also 2 teams per age group equals more money. Remember he quit his day job (attorney) to do PT full time. Now that he has to pay for fields he may be regretting that move.

Top teams north of LI

2016 -

Best team Primetime ever assembled.

2017 -
1 - Eclipse
2 - Primetime

2018 -
1 - Primetime
2 - Eclipse
3 - North

2019 -
1 - LIE North
2 - Eclipse

2020 -
1 - LIE North

2021 -
1 - Eclipse
2 - LIE North
3 - 2

2022 -
1 - Primetime
2 - North
3 - 91 tri-state

Preds 2017 beat PT 2017 at Tristate two years ago, wasn't even close. Teams do change year to year and I will acknowledge PT team is good, but don't see how you can say PT is better than Preds 2017 based upon PT's 2014 loss to Preds and Pred's body of work in summer of 2015: Preds 2017 won the 2015 NXT (also attended by PT) and Adrenaline Summer Invitationals. Of course until they play this is all conjecture. Perhaps next summer they will.

only one man's opinion. feel free to change or put your own view up for all to see. This was more to start a dialogue and see how other teams are doing. nothing would make me feel better than seeing this area kick Long Island butt.

PT 2017 marginal at best

Primetime should be 1 or 2 in 2021 division. 2018- Express North should be higher. 2019 Express North is clearly the class of the region. 2020, no qualms

We will get an early read on many of the younger teams as I think lie north, predators, primetime and chargers are playing at Yale this weekend.

How did Westchester teams do at Harvard Crimson tourney last weekend?

Now this is a good post. Seems pretty solid though arguments can be made up and and down the line. Wish 2023 was included. Yale should help solidify this list. Though, really, we all know this area really needs a local tourney for these local teams to battle it out. Frustrating how team directors are so worried to play one another for fear of losing. They won't even scrimmage. Nuts to travel to Harvard when so many to face are within 30 minutes.

Good news for 2021

Primetime vs. LIE North at Yale on Saturday.

We will find out who is #1 in Westchester.

get used to it, LI team rarely played each other when they were younger

Also Prime Time 2023/2022 vs LI North 2022 at Yale this Saturday.

They do not have LIE North in that division. The schedule I am looking at has #D Tri Stare, Necks 2021 & Primetime. They have LIE Express in Blue North

The most up to date schedule is now posted on the Yale Bulldog website. Both PT 2021 and 2023/2022 teams are playing LI North

2021 Yellow North PT and LI North. 2022 Brown North 2023/2022 PT and LI North. Both play each other.

This is great stuff. Two men that are doing a great job in Westchester Daniello & Schreiber. Let's see who comes out on top. A lot of these kids know each other and it should be two fun games. It's what sports is all about competition, rivalries and friendship.

Great post! Some may play school ball together many will play some region events together. Keep the rivalry and competition lively but make sure the friendships run deep!

Why is Express 2020 playing in the B division at Yale? I thought they were an A team.

No chance of winning and putting a pic on the wbsite

There are several teams in divisions that they don't belong in. This is going to be a trainwreck.

Problem is there are no A divisions at Yale. It has become a "B" level tournament.
Express North & Primetime should wipe up the competition.

You could probably say the same for most of the fall tourneys. And rightly so. Kids have other sports to play.

3d NE was very good over the summer

Score from express north 2024 vs 91?

How did the Westchester & CT youth teams do today at the Yale tournament? I am especially interested to hear how the better Westchester & CT 2020, 2021 & 2022 teams did (such as Primetime, Predators, 3D Tristate, LIE North and Chargers). Thanks in advance for any updates.

Express North 2020 went 4-0

Below is a bunch scores noted from the board at Yale:

2020s:
PT beat 3D Tristate 9-2
TGNecks beat PT 7-1
91 Crush beat Chargers 16-1
Express N beat Superstar 8-2
91 Crush beat Preds 13-1
91 Crush beat NH tomahawks 6-3


2021s:
2way beat 3D NE 4-0
PT beat TG Necks 12-1
PT beat Express N 11-1
2way tie Preds 1-1
PT beat 91 Ambush 6-3
Express N beat TG Necks 6-3
91 Anbush beat Express N 6-3
Express N beat TG necks 6-3

2022s:
2way beat Preds 2-1
3D NE beat Preds 5-3
Superstar beat 2way 9-4
PT 22/23 beat 3D tristate 6-1
Superstar beat Preds 7-0
3D NE beat 2way 8-1
PT 22/23 beat Express N 5-3
Express N beat TG necks 7-1
TG Necks beat 3D tristate 8-3

Prime Time 2023/2022 went 4-0 won their bracket (Beat LI North 5-3)
Prime Time 2021 went 4-0 won their bracket (Beat LI North 11-1)
PT 2020 went 2-2

Fixed the PT v 3d TS score. 2020 PT, 3d, and Preds are all evenly matched.

At Yale, Tomahawks were the class of their bracket eventually losing to Crush in the final. Gave the Crush a decent game and not the usual 'walk over' to which Crush are accustomed. Congrats to them.

PT beat 3d, 3d beat the 'Necks, and the 'Necks beat PT. Rankings went down to goals allowed which resulted in... 2nd-Necks, 3rd-3d, 4th-PT. Good competition all day.

3d and Preds played at Harvard with 3d winning by one goal. Again, very evenly matched. Could go either way. So you have three teams who have faced off against each other and the games have been roughly even.

The Express North was placed, or choose to participate, in the lower bracket at Yale so it is very difficult to determine where they fit. They did win two tourneys on LI with relative ease, but those were primarily against town teams so the jury is still out. Similarly we don't really know much about Eclipse although they were invited to Denver last year. Hopefully they will add even more to the mix.

2020 in Westchester/CT is and will continue to be very competitive and I'm sure they all will win and lose to each other because I don't see any team with 'all the pieces'.

Potentially there are as many as five teams that can play with each other. That is great for the development of the kids as long as the teams don't dodge each other like some teams on LI do.

Eclipse 2021 is a strong team. Lost to icon today 5-4 in the championship round at a Maryland tournament. These two teams had beaten the crabs and edge in the playoffs to get to the finals. Eclipse had also beaten icon earlier in the day. Primetime and eclipse will definitely challenge Long Island for spots at the World Series tournament.

PT 22/23 was in lower bracket so tough to say how good there 22 team is. It is the fall so who really cares who did what, many kids missing in Fall tourneys.

True, I watched some 2022 games and I could say that PT 22 is going to have a good summer. They basically won very handily all the games at Yale despite having a team with about 40% of 2023 kids and 1 2024 on it. The younger PT teams look like they are improved from last year. LI North played very well also, giving PT a good game. quote=Anonymous]PT 22/23 was in lower bracket so tough to say how good there 22 team is. It is the fall so who really cares who did what, many kids missing in Fall tourneys. [/quote]

Superstar 2022 easily in top 3

How did Preds 2023 do at Yale?