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Anyone who thinks their kid has a chance at making their select teams or "A" teams should think again. Those spots are locked up by previous players, kids who were hand picked prior to try outs or kids who play for the high school coaches who are now board members. Yes there may be a couple of exceptions, but the directors know who most of the kids are that they want before try outs start.

Anyone who thinks their kid has a chance at making their select teams or "A" teams should think again. Those spots are locked up by previous players, kids who were hand picked prior to try outs or kids who play for the high school coaches who are now board members. Yes there may be a couple of exceptions, but the directors know who most of the kids are that they want before try outs start.

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If calls went out and all the teams are set why are they advertising more tryouts this weekend?

They still need 2018 players

Really? I saw them this summer they looked pretty
Good what happened?

They looked average last year and lost few of best players.

They looked average last year and lost few of best players.

Can you please just worry about your son's team? Which team is that anyway? (he won't say) For the record, lost one top player and one was never there anyway. Both made choices they felt worked best for them. Kept all of their other top guys and will add much needed depth. Many new players may be some of the best on the new team. Overall, team will be much stronger top to bottom. If you're that interested, your son can still try out in second round this weekend. They are giving everyone a chance to compete for a spot. Or call MB and set up a scrimmage in the late fall with your son's team. It's about recruiting now, many players on this new team have multiple D1 schools interested in them. The club is doing an outstanding job supporting that process. Many kids will make commitments this year on this team. The OL 2017 team, 15+ commits and more pending. 2016 team, 26 commits. Good luck to your son. Please, move on already and stop with bashing of these kids.

No one ever said anything about the kids. It's the organization that has come under fire. The lack of a good coach, lack of practices, it was the lack of of anything that was amazing. It was the complete lack of what was promised that is coming under fire. The director said that the team had 2 to 3 possible players that can play D1 ball. Team had a lot more than that. It was very talented. The team was coached and managed poorly losing games they should never have lost to teams with inferior talent. They never were given a chance to show how talented they really were. It became a [lacrosse] show. If there was a practice 12 players showed, at tournaments 14 kids showed. Kids got disgusted with it, as did parents driving 4 to 5 hours in traffic to have barely enough kids to field a team. It all starts at the top. Remember this was a team of over 30. Many intended to leave but due to their high school coaches being made directors they are forced to stay. These are facts. As an A team they were coached and treated like a C team.

Are the team's finally settled or will there be more changes and waiting?

Let the boys get on with a little lax

Things were settled weeks ago. If your waiting your getting strung along. No team waits until the third tryout to make roster. It's to fill the unexpected 1-2 spot that they thought were filled.

Many organizations try to leave a roster spot or two open in case somebody shows up out of nowhere and blows them away

Does anyone know if it's like the last time. If you were already on a team and did not move up you, you were not emailed or will everyone from the last tryout get an email?

I did not ask the question but I can understand where the person is coming from. They did not wait to ask for money after the first tryout how long ago, plus if you're new to travel lax you may want to know when they start things up.

The previous poster is right. If your kid is a select player you should be fine, but if he's not, don't expect the director or "recruiting coordinator" to go out of their way to offer any guidance or help. The kids who are committed could have played anywhere and been noticed. Not because they play for the outlaws, but because they're good. If you're not on select or the top team in the age group you will most likely not get what they promise you.

I'm pretty realistic. He has gotten looks from d1 schools and is currently talking to several of them. The Outlaws have had nothing to do with it. It has all been through Individual showcases and prospect days. My point is, they make promises they don't keep. I never expected them to go out and sell my son to coaches, but if I needed input, feedback or a request to play at a showcase I expected to get it for my 2400, or at least a response to an email or call. My son may be lucky enough to play D1 or wait and play D2 or 3. I don't really care as long as he's happy and gets a good education. As far as The Outlaws go, don't represent yourselves to be something your not. The kids get themselves recruited. You guys just answer the phone and pass on messages like a secretary.

I'm pretty realistic. He has gotten looks from d1 schools and is currently talking to several of them. The Outlaws have had nothing to do with it. It has all been through Individual showcases and prospect days. My point is, they make promises they don't keep. I never expected them to go out and sell my son to coaches, but if I needed input, feedback or a request to play at a showcase I expected to get it for my 2400, or at least a response to an email or call. My son may be lucky enough to play D1 or wait and play D2 or 3. I don't really care as long as he's happy and gets a good education. As far as The Outlaws go, don't represent yourselves to be something your not. The kids get themselves recruited. You guys just answer the phone and pass on messages like a secretary.

Your post is a little scattered. First of all, I never said they made a conscious effort not to help me. What they did do was to neglect my requests for the help and support they promised before they took my money. If they had been responsive, I would have used them as the contact for any possible interest my son may have gotten from showcases, tournaments or prospect days. Because We got no response to our requests, We began to use his HS coach which is why they are not involved. It's not because he doesn't have "legit interest". They have just been left out of the process. Second, Yes, we did start doing it on our own, but only after we realized the organization we chose to play for was going to be no help. Believe me, I would have welcomed any input or help from them. That's why we play for these clubs at the recruiting age. If I sound silly to you, then I guess the majority of the parents on my sons team are silly also because we all had similar experiences. It's great that you and your son are having a better experience, but believe me you're the exception not the rule. PB and MB. Just apologize to all the people you made empty promises to and start treating everyone like they're on one of your select teams. The very least they deserve is a call back or response to an email.

We had over 250 kids tryout combined for the 2021 and 2019 age brackets. We extended an option for a 3rd team invite to many, but did not get enough solid acceptances. We could have thrown kids together that were cut, collected the $ and let the team run as Outlaws Silver.

This is not how the Outlaws work. We will not put out a team that we feel is a C team. Every team needs to be able to compete and we did not think the 2019 and 2021 Silver would compete at a high enough level with acceptances we were and weren't getting. Even though we see it on here all the time, it is not all about the money- it is about a positive experience.

Every kid that was given a spot and accepted on these teams have been called and we are helping all find a new spot. Whether it be internally or externally we will take care of all the kids.

On a side note, please do not believe everything anonymous posters write on these forums. If you have a real question- call us, or email us. Anyone from competitors to parents that' we're disgruntled their kid wasn't put on a certain team can post on here and seem to try to bash and lie. We are all about being transparent so call or email and we will answer.

Within the recruiting process it is very important to be in an organization that is established, in the right tournaments and http right connections. It is important to have a director that will be the middle man between college coach and HS student and his parents. It is important to have coaches and directors who will go out of their way to vouch for their student athletes. With all that being said it is also of vital importance for the athlete to send emails, complete questionnaires, attend certain prospect days and stay pro active in the process. Getting recruited and committed is a different path for every kid and family, all have different needs and goals, but in general it should be a group effort to get all options on the table.

Wow. You're really excited for a guy who's kid is doing well. Maybe you have more invested in this than your indicating. You also have trouble following along. My son got interest after we wrote off the outlaws. At that point For me to put trust into people who can't answer a few emails or return phone calls would have been foolish. Also, Why should I drive from my town to track down the director when he had every opportunity to return numerous phone calls and emails. His message was loud and clear. Not once did either of the Directors show up at any of our practices or tournaments. If they had I would have gladly had the discussion. They had an opportunity to produce the product they advertised. They also had the opportunity to speak with me numerous times throughout the year and didn't. It works both ways. So yes, I'm on here now talking about my experience because people have a right to know both sides of the story. People work hard for their money. They should get what they pay for. If you can't support all of your players and teams equally then only field select AA teams. But we all know why that won't happen. Delusional or not it's the truth. Good luck to your son as well.