BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Men's U19 final 30

You guys are ridiculous. There are some guys who weren't selected initially that could be on this team. There are also guys cut from the 101-51 round or the 51-30 round that could be on this team.

Was there some bias in favor of recruits? Very possibly. But this is not a perfect science. They are trying to win with the best team possible, not the 23 best players in the country.

I liken it to Bob Knight when he coached the 84 Olympic team. He cut guys like Stockton, Barkley and others in favor of Jon Koncack and Joe Klein. He also took his own player, Steve Alford, who was the youngest player and someone few expected to make it.

When asked about the guys cut and those who made it, Knight replied that he went with what would make the best TEAM.

I'm sure other coaches would have selected a different roster, perhaps wildly different. But obviously all of these kids can play and the coaches pick who they think can get the job done, right or wrong.

Accusing them of bias is just a waste of time.

12 out of the 30 kids picked are from three teams Ohio State, Penn State and U Penn. The coaches are from three schools Ohio State, Penn State and U Penn, 4 players from each of those schools were selected. That means only 18 players selectors from all the other schools. Coincidence??? This happens in all tryouts even at this level. They are all deserving players if you think there's no bias your nuts.

Ok, stop whining that your son was cut, the best kids at the tryout were picked to continue. If your son stood out,he would still be on the roster like the others that clearly did. Go back and watch the game, you will see. Some traditionally good kids had trouble standing out for whatever reason. Get over it!

anybody who came up through the travel club circuit knows there are politics at a very early age. All of these Under Armour, Brine, LI All Americans etc are all tilted towards certain coaches and clubs.

You better be the best of the best otherwise you better hope you are aligned with the right people.

Just like life

It's only a problem when your kid isn't picked. The team will be just fine. There are always politics in sports, and there were not only 3 coaches picking the players, there was a whole expert committee consisting of HS coaches and other professionals. This sounds like the Under Armour [lacrosse] fest all over again. Who shouldn't be on this team based on their performance at the tryout according to you, who seems to know better than US Lacrosse ?

12 out of the 30 kids picked are from three teams Ohio State, Penn State and U Penn. The coaches are from three schools Ohio State, Penn State and U Penn, 4 players from each of those schools were selected. That means only 18 players selectors from all the other schools. Coincidence??? This happens in all tryouts even at this level. They are all deserving players if you think there's no bias your nuts.

These are not necessarily the best players in the country. It is a team put together by three coaches who have a vested interest in working with their own players. The competition in this U-19 tournament is very weak by the way. There are at least 20 High School teams in NY/Ct/NJ that could win this event.

These are not necessarily the best players in the country. It is a team put together by three coaches who have a vested interest in working with their own players. The competition in this U-19 tournament is very weak by the way. There are at least 20 High School teams in NY/Ct/NJ that could win this event.

Like you said most of the boys were tops. We are talking about the ones who werent but because they are attending the schools of the coaches players who are better and performed better at the tryouts will not get the chance to play.

Nothing you can do. If they win they will say we knew what we were doing. If they lose they will blame it on something.

How many Championships have these coaches won total between them ??

I am not naming names and no one should. But you have 3 kids from the same HS. One did not tryout because of injury but still made it "different argument" but he was considered one of top in country all year so you can understand both sides of that argument but the other 2. One is in the group of 5 FOGO's which will be cut down when they go to 23 man roster so they can correct that mistake. He was a great player 2 years ago that leveled out and had a so so year because he was banged up but had less than average tryout. The other defensemen should not be there plain and simple. The only reason is because he is going to Ohio State. Plus the coaches want to open the door for more recruits from one of the top HS programs.

I am not naming names and no one should. But you have 3 kids from the same HS. One did not tryout because of injury but still made it "different argument" but he was considered one of top in country all year so you can understand both sides of that argument but the other 2. One is in the group of 5 FOGO's which will be cut down when they go to 23 man roster so they can correct that mistake. He was a great player 2 years ago that leveled out and had a so so year because he was banged up but had less than average tryout. The other defensemen should not be there plain and simple. The only reason is because he is going to Ohio State. Plus the coaches want to open the door for more recruits from one of the top HS programs.

I am not naming names and no one should. But you have 3 kids from the same HS. One did not tryout because of injury but still made it "different argument" but he was considered one of top in country all year so you can understand both sides of that argument but the other 2. One is in the group of 5 FOGO's which will be cut down when they go to 23 man roster so they can correct that mistake. He was a great player 2 years ago that leveled out and had a so so year because he was banged up but had less than average tryout. The other defensemen should not be there plain and simple. The only reason is because he is going to Ohio State. Plus the coaches want to open the door for more recruits from one of the top HS programs.

I am not naming names and no one should. But you have 3 kids from the same HS. One did not tryout because of injury but still made it "different argument" but he was considered one of top in country all year so you can understand both sides of that argument but the other 2. One is in the group of 5 FOGO's which will be cut down when they go to 23 man roster so they can correct that mistake. He was a great player 2 years ago that leveled out and had a so so year because he was banged up but had less than average tryout. The other defensemen should not be there plain and simple. The only reason is because he is going to Ohio State. Plus the coaches want to open the door for more recruits from one of the top HS programs.

4 commits from Ohio State (Head Coach of U19 Team), 4 from UPenn (Assistant Coach of U19 Team), 4 from Penn State (Assistant Coach of U19 Team), coincidence?

That is really funny! Have you seen Canada teams play? Like Hill Acadamy? If so you would not be making that statement. And most of the boys chosen have consistently been ranked top in their class for their positions. Check it out and you will see. You sound like a jealous hater and it's sad that you can't be happy for these boys.

Who said I wasn't happy for the boys. They will have a lot of fun. Just calling it like it is. The selection process was biased by the OSU PSU and Penn coaches. That said, I don't think it matters as the teams they play are weak and the players they selected will do just fine. Yes every once in a while Canada puts up some resistance, but the rest of the countries are nothing. Pick any good team from our area and they could win this tournament.