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Ward Melville is a good team. Unfortunately they do not have a PR machine. Look at Newsday,today, GC and SA are the two most hyped teams. The article points out that SA beat 3 nationally ranked teams in the last week. Every team is ranked nationally. John Carroll one of the 3 was 5 -7 and ranked 210. Then is says by losing to the PR machine last year GC, that SA missed out on being the number team in the nation. Did they forget that they played a young McDonogh team and were blown out. There was no repeat this year because they did not play.

The point is that it is not fair to the other teams. Bryn Mawr and Maryvale deserve the reputation of GC and SA. Given that BM scored 11 straight goals on SA and handled GC easily, they earned it. On the field results matter more than the spin of SA and GC. The article Sunday was the PR hype in full mode.

I respect what your saying, especially about S.A. . But as far as G.C. goes, they are a public school, unlike McDonogh who , as stated earlier , is more like a college team, and S.A. who basically pay kids to play. Though G.C. is having a down year this year you cant take away that they have won 6 straight N.Y. titles. Its not like we're talking about other states like Ohio or Florida, Both N.Y. and MD. have been hot-beds for lax since John Hopkins organized the sport, cut G.C. a break, there probably going to win the state again, unless Manhasset can beat them

Hauppauge can play with them! No doubt! Should be an interesting game.

I do respect Garden City. I saw them play last year and they were unbelievably talented. What I am saying it should be acknowledged that this is a slightly down year but a very good team. I think that they have taken for granted what they have accomplished over the last few years which is significant. They scheduled a game on Fri then played SA on Sat, seems like they almost discounted SA. Yet with all these losses they will still be ranked really high. One win against a good team and they will be in the Top 5. What I am saying is that is not fair to other teams. BM lost to McDonogh and dropped significantly, they do not have the same PR leverage.

SA is a whole other level of PR. They give up 11 straight goals to BM. Now they are crowing that they beat John Carroll. They claimed in this article that if but a one goal loss to GC they would have been number one last year. They were steam rolled by McDonogh.

Both these teams GC and SA are very talented. SA has unbelievable talent. The difference between McDonogh, Bryn Mawr, and the rest of the league is that they prepare and get the most out of their players. For that they should get credit as well as other up and coming teams.

I think if it is easy to try and distort the picture. McDonogh has a great amount of talent. However the reason that McDonogh is such a great team is because of the commitment, preparation, and team philosophy. It was not long ago, they were nothing. What changed was coaching. The same coaching did exactly the same thing at Mt. Hebron a public school prior, beating everyone for years. No one could beat them. Getting kids to buy in is to the key.

The kids at Bryn Mawr are the same. On a pure talent basis, St Anthony's is better. Yet Bryn Mawr made them look like they did not belong on the same field. Bryn Mawr was completely prepared, played as a team, and executed. Bryn Mawr was down 3 1 and then scored 11 Straight Goals. How often does that ever ever happen.

The coaching at both McDonogh and Bryn Mawr is better. The teams are more prepared. Most important is that the kids buy in to the whole team philosophy. Watching what happened in Maryland two years in a row, I think that you could add five more top players on St Anthony's and they still would not get it done for the above reasons. Last year they were dismantled by a very young McDonogh team. St Anthony's gave up something like 9 straight goals. Two years in a row the same exact thing happened. There was clear finger pointing and no one seemed to know what to do both years.

I agree that McDonogh is an incredible team. That has happened over time and for all of the above reasons. Bryn Mawr to me is even more amazing for all of the reasons that you point out.
The league these teams play in is also an advantage. On any day any team can beat the other. Evidence of Bryn Mawr escaping with a one goal win.

Monday, April 30th Results

Port Washington doubles Syosset, 12-6

Tuesday, May 1st Results

East Islip over Connetquot, 19-9
North Babylon twenties Longwood, 20-7
Half Hollow Hills over Middle Country, 11-8
Pat-Med over Copiague, 12-1 (Halftime : 10-0)
Cold Spring Harbor over Seaford, 14-12
Bay Shore over Smithtown East, 17-6
Farmingdale over Garden City, 13-12
St. Dominics over Portledge, 18-12
Glen Cove over Jericho, 16-9
Mineola over Carle Place, 16-13, Overtime
Smithtown West edges Floyd, 14-13
North Shore over Valley Stream, 16-12
Ward Melville over Lindenhurst, 11-1
Friends Academy over Wheatley, 20-12
Long Island Lutheran over St. Mary's, 18-4

Highlights

Sophomores Kyra Harney and Carly Cox each scored five points for Bay Shore (11-1, 10-1), with Harney netting four goals and Cox dishing out four assists in Division I.

Garden City led Farmingdale, 8-3, at halfimte. However, Daler Cassie Perettine scored with 1:41 left to break a tie at 12 for Farmingdale (10-0) in non-league. Amanda Tuturro scored four of her six goals during a 10-goal second half for Farmingdale, and Olivia Kirk made 14 saves.

Despite Carle Place leading 12-7 after the first half, Mineola's Nikki Vella scored both of her goals in the first overtime and Kerri Medlock had seven goals, including the game-tying goal with 3:00 left, and three assists as Mineola (2-5) came back to win in Conference C.

Cage Sage what would you attribute the fact that there are 44 pages of girls hs lax and only 6 on th e boys thread? i find this an interesteing phenomenon

That is a great question. It will be interesting to see if that person will once again be refing the Wantagh - GC game... severe conflict of interest!

does any one know the rules if a girl's goalie can score a goal like the boy's goalie do? I was told no because their pocket is illegal.

Goalies are not allowed to score.

A Goalie in the girls game can not play past the Midfield line.

Can you explain why not? I want to known the fact.

But if she's out of the crease and therefore a field player and subject to field player stick rules, and her stick is illegal because of the pocket, why doesn't she become illegal as soon as she steps out of the crease?

My daughter is a goalie so we asked refs this question . A goalie stick is not illegal if it meets the length requirement, and the ball does not get stuck between the cradle of the stick and the mesh. because of the depth of the pocket, and the fact that she is the only player on her team that is fully padded, she gains an unfair advantage over all other field players. i.e. it is vastly more difficult for a player to check a ball from a goalie stick, and in a ground ball situation , or in going into the 8 , a goalie could go for the ball or the goal with greater veracity because she a lessened fear of injury. To keep everything even she can not cross into the attacking end of the field.