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Anyone who has to come on here and bash someones physical appearance is not worthy of a response and is like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way. He is mad at the world and needs to make someone else feel bad about themselves so he can feel better. IGNORE

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Maybe its West Hampton

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Her status is the name daddy is destroying for the all mighty buck

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[quote=Anonymous]Maybe its West Hampton [/quot

Maybe it's the loser who is obsessed w the Westhampton kid , ie you.

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BS and SS are better? Ok, one is non existent and one never played a sport in his life. Get a life


Just to clarify.... Bill Smith was a multi sport athlete at West Babylon HS. He won awards in football and was an accomplished lacrosse player. Please check facts before posting.

Wasn't he a NYC firefighter as well?

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BS and SS are better? Ok, one is non existent and one never played a sport in his life. Get a life


Just to clarify.... Bill Smith was a multi sport athlete at West Babylon HS. He won awards in football and was an accomplished lacrosse player. Please check facts before posting.

Wasn't he a NYC firefighter as well?


Yes he was. He was forced to retire due to pulminory issues from 9/11. Might have something to do with his weight since he can't go out and jog like everyone wants him to do. Whether you like him or not, he did his job on 9/11. Which is more than most of us can say.

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Absolutely true, I heard he was a 9/11 responder. He has also lost some weight recently, but regardless it is none of anyone's business. Looking around the sidelines of Lacrosse events there are many parents who need to drop a few.

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Absolutely true, I heard he was a 9/11 responder. He has also lost some weight recently, but regardless it is none of anyone's business. Looking around the sidelines of Lacrosse events there are many parents who need to drop a few.

He went in there knowing he had 3 young kids at home. Doubt any of these internet cowards would have the balls to do the same.

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Please the last thing BS or any retired member of the FDNY wants is for people to be discussing their involvement that horrible day. Please move on to something else. Thank you

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Please the last thing BS or any retired member of the FDNY wants is for people to be discussing their involvement that horrible day. Please move on to something else. Thank you


I agree. Move on.


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Is TG invited to the G-10 in Morristown?

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Is TG invited to the G-10 in Morristown?


what is the G 10? Is there a link for it?

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Is TG invited to the G-10 in Morristown?


what is the G 10? Is there a link for it?


It is a select tournament, the idea is to reduce the entry to only the top ten teams in each age group,giving a hand picked selection of players for the coaches to look at. Same people who run NIKE elite 120 which attracts the top gathering of college coaches, so I am sure this will too. The TG black teams should about fit the profile, but they seem to steer TG players away from elite 120 so I am guessing they will avoid this as well. I think many of these club directors have burnt bridges and strained relations that often guide what they enter. Not sure if the date interferes with the TG summer schedule, and not sure if this is an invite only thing but the black teams in the recruiting age group should get together and go on their own.

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Is TG invited to the G-10 in Morristown?

TG will be at "the grind" and "the rise" tournaments I think the same weekend.

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Step it up TG or else!

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I thought the tournament in morristown was g8 not g10. What does g8 stand for ? Does g8 = Gait ?

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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament

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Are the purple and white teams equal talent?

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Are the purple and white teams equal talent?


Yes they are both PAL level teams.

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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament
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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament


Other than the fact that the top teams from YJ, TLC, M&D, Maryland United, Heros, etc. will be there. Only the handful of top teams in the country and the top college coaches. The boys side has moved to smaller tournaments with only the top teams and I assure you the coaches will flock to this one. Ask your TG staff why they are not getting invited to these type of events - Elite 120 the individual showcase which had 90+ coaches and this top team tournament this upcoming summer.

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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament


The elite 120 does such a good job of gathering the very top talent, coaches are begging for the next step, and this is it. From a recruiting coaches standpoint, what could be better? Most any and all other tournaments are all about making money, they take any and all. They try to bracket it out but many brackets and pools are useless games against bad competition. If your a recruiter, do you really want to deal with all the extra noise. Trim the fat away, get only the top teams in a single venue, surrounded by quality players, dream come true.

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Step it up TG or else!


Or else what? You're going to leave? BYE!!!

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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament


The elite 120 does such a good job of gathering the very top talent, coaches are begging for the next step, and this is it. From a recruiting coaches standpoint, what could be better? Most any and all other tournaments are all about making money, they take any and all. They try to bracket it out but many brackets and pools are useless games against bad competition. If your a recruiter, do you really want to deal with all the extra noise. Trim the fat away, get only the top teams in a single venue, surrounded by quality players, dream come true.


Don't kid yourself. Elite 120 is all about the money. They capitalize on the fact that not much else goes on over the winter for girls. Not so elite when you invite well over 120 and then it is first come first serve for invites. If they truly want to be elite perhaps invite what they feel truly is the top 120, wait for turn downs and fill in from there. The bottom line in this sport (as any other sport) it comes down to the almighty dollar!!!! I agree with above poster, they have given themselves the title "Elite"

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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament


The elite 120 does such a good job of gathering the very top talent, coaches are begging for the next step, and this is it. From a recruiting coaches standpoint, what could be better? Most any and all other tournaments are all about making money, they take any and all. They try to bracket it out but many brackets and pools are useless games against bad competition. If your a recruiter, do you really want to deal with all the extra noise. Trim the fat away, get only the top teams in a single venue, surrounded by quality players, dream come true.


Don't kid yourself. Elite 120 is all about the money. They capitalize on the fact that not much else goes on over the winter for girls. Not so elite when you invite well over 120 and then it is first come first serve for invites. If they truly want to be elite perhaps invite what they feel truly is the top 120, wait for turn downs and fill in from there. The bottom line in this sport (as any other sport) it comes down to the almighty dollar!!!! I agree with above poster, they have given themselves the title "Elite"


They only invite 180 from each group. That's the equivalent of about 5-6 teams worth of girls. I think that's still pretty elite. Trying to minimize its impact because you weren't invited perhaps?

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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament


The elite 120 does such a good job of gathering the very top talent, coaches are begging for the next step, and this is it. From a recruiting coaches standpoint, what could be better? Most any and all other tournaments are all about making money, they take any and all. They try to bracket it out but many brackets and pools are useless games against bad competition. If your a recruiter, do you really want to deal with all the extra noise. Trim the fat away, get only the top teams in a single venue, surrounded by quality players, dream come true.


Don't kid yourself. Elite 120 is all about the money. They capitalize on the fact that not much else goes on over the winter for girls. Not so elite when you invite well over 120 and then it is first come first serve for invites. If they truly want to be elite perhaps invite what they feel truly is the top 120, wait for turn downs and fill in from there. The bottom line in this sport (as any other sport) it comes down to the almighty dollar!!!! I agree with above poster, they have given themselves the title "Elite"


You make no sense at all. They invite a very small group of select teams, how is that all about the money? Look at ALL the other tournaments and even U15, it is a free for all. If there was ever one tournament that was not all about the money, this is it. If your team is not going to this and your daughter isn't going to 120, tell yourself whatever you need to be able to sleep at night, but spare the rest of us.

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Its always about the money. If your daughter is truly top 120 she doesn't need this or any other particular event to be recruited.

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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament


The elite 120 does such a good job of gathering the very top talent, coaches are begging for the next step, and this is it. From a recruiting coaches standpoint, what could be better? Most any and all other tournaments are all about making money, they take any and all. They try to bracket it out but many brackets and pools are useless games against bad competition. If your a recruiter, do you really want to deal with all the extra noise. Trim the fat away, get only the top teams in a single venue, surrounded by quality players, dream come true.


Don't kid yourself. Elite 120 is all about the money. They capitalize on the fact that not much else goes on over the winter for girls. Not so elite when you invite well over 120 and then it is first come first serve for invites. If they truly want to be elite perhaps invite what they feel truly is the top 120, wait for turn downs and fill in from there. The bottom line in this sport (as any other sport) it comes down to the almighty dollar!!!! I agree with above poster, they have given themselves the title "Elite"
Apparently you weren't there or your kid was not invited. Great, well -run event with a lot of talent and most of the top schools in the country recruiting there.

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Its always about the money. If your daughter is truly top 120 she doesn't need this or any other particular event to be recruited.
This is true but don't minimize the Elite 120 event. It was excellent with a lot of top girls, well run, and a lot of top coaches. Agree it wash;t free but felt better about spending the money after seeing the event than many other events out there.

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Its always about the money. If your daughter is truly top 120 she doesn't need this or any other particular event to be recruited.


Send her out to play in the back yard, don't worry about it, if she is that good they will find her! A real lacrosse recluse, good luck with that.

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It's an unproven new tournament that's calling itself elite. (If you write it it must be true) started by the director of Steps NJ. It might be great, it might fade away...I would stress too much whether you're going there or another tournament


The elite 120 does such a good job of gathering the very top talent, coaches are begging for the next step, and this is it. From a recruiting coaches standpoint, what could be better? Most any and all other tournaments are all about making money, they take any and all. They try to bracket it out but many brackets and pools are useless games against bad competition. If your a recruiter, do you really want to deal with all the extra noise. Trim the fat away, get only the top teams in a single venue, surrounded by quality players, dream come true.


Don't kid yourself. Elite 120 is all about the money. They capitalize on the fact that not much else goes on over the winter for girls. Not so elite when you invite well over 120 and then it is first come first serve for invites. If they truly want to be elite perhaps invite what they feel truly is the top 120, wait for turn downs and fill in from there. The bottom line in this sport (as any other sport) it comes down to the almighty dollar!!!! I agree with above poster, they have given themselves the title "Elite"


You make no sense at all. They invite a very small group of select teams, how is that all about the money? Look at ALL the other tournaments and even U15, it is a free for all. If there was ever one tournament that was not all about the money, this is it. If your team is not going to this and your daughter isn't going to 120, tell yourself whatever you need to be able to sleep at night, but spare the rest of us.


You are completely wrong. Anyone can contact the directors for an invite. Then you have your coach send in a reference. I know, because I did this for my daughter. So you can keep telling yourself that your daughter is "Elite" ....in your own mind. As I said, it is just like everything else..$$$$$$$

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Its always about the money. If your daughter is truly top 120 she doesn't need this or any other particular event to be recruited.
This is true but don't minimize the Elite 120 event. It was excellent with a lot of top girls, well run, and a lot of top coaches. Agree it wash;t free but felt better about spending the money after seeing the event than many other events out there.


Never said it wasn't a well run event or there wasn't a good turnout of coaches. There is nothing else going on that weekend for coaches to attend. Just stating it is not as exclusive as people want to think it is. Wait until another event develops on the same weekend...that will be the next elite showcase.

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No recluse at all.just a lax parent with a few more dollars in my pocket.

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If you have to call yourself elite ....... Are you really elite?

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No recluse at all.just a lax parent with a few more dollars in my pocket.


It"s not even a question of a extra money in your pocket, it is more a question of how the club your daughter plays for spends your money, the quality of tournaments the club picks out for your team. ALL the clubs have several cheesy tournaments they attend, especially the lower teams. When many of the teams in an age group are not up to snuff, it is not good business to bring to all tournaments where they take a beating. So yes, if these clubs are going to have 3, 4, 5 teams per age group, they better provide several feel good tournaments. If your a parent involved with the clubs top team from one of the top clubs, you want quality tournaments. The only problem with an elite team tournament like this is it causes internal strife as only the top teams in the club go. Look at the mess u15 causes internally at TG.

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If you have to call yourself elite ....... Are you really elite?


Already saw this one coming... don't attend the events where the so said "chosen" ones are pulled from. Strong connection between quite a number of teams who I can validate from seeing first hand would not be and should not be in the elite category. As I mentioned once we found out about the event made a phone call and it was done. Keep telling yourself what you want to believe.

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No recluse at all.just a lax parent with a few more dollars in my pocket.


It"s not even a question of a extra money in your pocket, it is more a question of how the club your daughter plays for spends your money, the quality of tournaments the club picks out for your team. ALL the clubs have several cheesy tournaments they attend, especially the lower teams. When many of the teams in an age group are not up to snuff, it is not good business to bring to all tournaments where they take a beating. So yes, if these clubs are going to have 3, 4, 5 teams per age group, they better provide several feel good tournaments. If your a parent involved with the clubs top team from one of the top clubs, you want quality tournaments. The only problem with an elite team tournament like this is it causes internal strife as only the top teams in the club go. Look at the mess u15 causes internally at TG.


The club should attend most tournaments as a whole unit. Most tournaments are set up with brackets based on ability. Rate your team properly. play in right division and you can compete and feel good. As for internal mess at TG due to U15, parents need to be realistic not everybody goes, Reality is that not everyone can go to Northwestern or Maryland either, Its ok. Daughter did not make u15 as a 2016, was not a Elite 120 invite, and certainly not a "stud". She got plenty of exposure going to tournaments like Lax Inception, Capitol cup and Rivalry, is a good solid lacrosse player and has recently committed to the school of her choice. Be patient and realistic

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Only the very top girls are ever going to pay back on their investment. For everyone paying 4 grand or so a year for 8 years people are in for $30-$40 thousand.

Now my kid is getting looks from $55,000 a year schools offering $7,000 a year to play lax. That's still $48,000 a year!!!

Pay for tutors instead of personal "wall ball training" and go to Stony Brook or Binghampton

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Only the very top girls are ever going to pay back on their investment. For everyone paying 4 grand or so a year for 8 years people are in for $30-$40 thousand.

Now my kid is getting looks from $55,000 a year schools offering $7,000 a year to play lax. That's still $48,000 a year!!!

Pay for tutors instead of personal "wall ball training" and go to Stony Brook or Binghampton


Let me take this post a bit further. I agree with this post, and to look deeper, parents need to understand that colleges and universities are businesses and not in the business of giving away money.

Lacrosse, soccer, and other sports are revenue producing sports for these institutions like basketball and football. Big time scholarships are very rare. partials are not worth taking if the school's academic rank is out of the top 50 IMO.

My youngest had two full scholarships for soccer and we turned them down because non of those schools came close to Duke where she was accepted.

The choice for her education between Duke or "P on U" was a no-brainer!!

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Only the very top girls are ever going to pay back on their investment. For everyone paying 4 grand or so a year for 8 years people are in for $30-$40 thousand.

Now my kid is getting looks from $55,000 a year schools offering $7,000 a year to play lax. That's still $48,000 a year!!!

Pay for tutors instead of personal "wall ball training" and go to Stony Brook or Binghampton


Let me take this post a bit further. I agree with this post, and to look deeper, parents need to understand that colleges and universities are businesses and not in the business of giving away money.

Lacrosse, soccer, and other sports are revenue producing sports for these institutions like basketball and football. Big time scholarships are very rare. partials are not worth taking if the school's academic rank is out of the top 50 IMO.

My youngest had two full scholarships for soccer and we turned them down because non of those schools came close to Duke where she was accepted.

The choice for her education between Duke or "P on U" was a no-brainer!!


Larry made the same choice we did (but we didn't get a Duke). We turned down weak academic schools AND weak lacrosse schools that were offering BIG CASH. The problem is on these travel club sidelines everyone is trying to 1 up each other, my daughter made black, My 8th grader got called up to varsity, my 9th grader committed.... after boasts like these, those are the parents that feel they MUST have their kid play in college. Go to Duke, cash in that academic money that is available to all and play college club lacrosse.

No employer will care that you graduated from APEX TECH as a 4 year starter on the lax team, except on of these club teams that will hire you are a gloried summer counselor!

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