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The word "not" was supposed to be after "should", but someone with your superior reading comprehension skills would have certainly picked up on that, instead of an ignoramous that simply got fixated on the error. Or perhaps you don't understand that your kid doesn't even play these teams, and you are just spouting off to be heard. Holdback argument at HS level is weak and over.

Wrong. All kids in question cleared.
If you are stuck worrying about this topic, time for the boy to find new activity.

Played Edge Canada first game of season at home at NLF this Fall. Beat team at the tourney. Very sneaky strategy.

The f'ing hold back argument again. Seriously shut the f up. These kids are going to be on their own soon and will know only whining from their parents.

Sorry best, not beat

True, they should be but the sad part is that neither Ryan McClernan nor the parents are ashamed. They feel proud of themselves and feel they are entitled to play by any rules they want. Do they cheat the system? Not directly, they play 8th graders in the 8th grade league, 7th in 7th etc. But here is where they "game" the system. They have holdbacks at most all level of teams they have, at least from 2022 and older. They had 15 and 16 year olds on last spring/summer 2020 team. The crab parents/fans will either say no no not true or the other come back now is, it's now high school, it doesn't matter. Well, it does matter because your present 2020 team is again loaded with holdbacks, same for your 2021 team and let's not forget the Crabs 2022 team, also holdbacks.
Parents are sold a pile of horsesh*t from McClernan and they buy into this sh*t. Simply pathetic. Go to a Crabs game, watch the parents, they parade around with their noses in the air, they really feel they are a "special" group since their kid plays for Crabs. If they only knew how the remainder of the lax community viewed these people they would be shocked. But then again, maybe not. [/quote

So kids should play their grade in a grade based league? Because you say so?! Shut up already. If you are still stuck on this argument, time for another activity. [/quote]. From your response it is obvious you have no idea what is being discussed. Read it again, come on you can do it, try real hard and see if you can comprehend what is being discussed . So far you seem to be completely lost. Or, maybe this is the new way Crabs parents push back. Bottom line, the holdback game at Crabs is alive and well. [/

Hey Shakespeare, comprehend this you snotty little loser, tell your husband to dust off the mitt and bat and get your boy into something more his speed. Let go, it is over, come on, you can do it, I promise.

. From your response it is obvious you have no idea what is being discussed. Read it again, come on you can do it, try real hard and see if you can comprehend what is being discussed . So far you seem to be completely lost. Or, maybe this is the new way Crabs parents push back. Bottom line, the holdback game at Crabs is alive and well. [/

Hey Shakespeare, comprehend this you snotty little loser, tell your husband to dust off the mitt and bat and get your boy into something more his speed. Let go, it is over, come on, you can do it, I promise. [/quote]. OMG is that the best you have? Pathetic. Can't tell if you are male or female but either way, still pathetic. Must be a Crabs sh*thead for sure. Come on admit it, it isn't hard to tell the truth, come on, try hard, you can do it little one.

Fat Crab will duck playing Loonies, 91, FCA any chance he gets....

. OMG is that the best you have? Pathetic. Can't tell if you are male or female but either way, still pathetic. Must be a Crabs sh*thead for sure. Come on admit it, it isn't hard to tell the truth, come on, try hard, you can do it little one. [/quote]

Every kid that does pre first or repeats in MS isn't going to automatically play a different grade because a couple whining libs may get their feelings hurt. That is life, and it seems as if you can't accept the fact that on average, the private school kids are about a year older than the public. Making nasty comments about cheating is really code for your own insecurity within the sport.

HAHAHA. That is funny. They have multiple holdbacks, including kids from last year's 2022 team and an ACTUAL 7th grader masquerading as a 6th grader. They are the worst of the bunch.

They should have parent safe spaces on the sidelines. Private school kids that do pre first, or any kid that ever repeats a grade, should set up reparations accounts and pay back any other kids that ever had to play against older kids.

Seriously though, if you are over 40, and be honest for a moment, can you imagine trying to explain your position on the holdback argument to you parents with any kid of seriousness.

All the HS teams are top 10 nationally

So every team that has a prefirst private school kid is cheating? Wait, so did red-shirting used to be cheating? Wait, so doing a post-grad year, then going to college is cheating? Is taking the SAT a second time cheating? Is taking the bar exam again cheating? So every kid that does prefirst is cheating at school and life? Seriously, shut the f up already. You guys sound worst than the people still complaining about losing the election. Your grandkids are going to be speaking a different language one day if you don't get back to basics and start teaching some discipline and toughness in these kids.

Every kid that does pre first or repeats in MS isn't going to automatically play a different grade because a couple whining libs may get their feelings hurt. That is life, and it seems as if you can't accept the fact that on average, the private school kids are about a year older than the public. Making nasty comments about cheating is really code for your own insecurity within the sport. [/quote]

Code? Really, code. What a idiot you are. True, private school kids have a better opportunity to repeat but to say making comments about how Crabs and Ryan M operate is code for insecurity. Boy, you really have no idea what is going on in youth lax and if you are a Crabs parent, which I think you are, you are in it up to your nose.
The reputation of Crabs and Ryan M is well known, inside and outside of Md. They are not respected as a lax club because of Ryan M's business model of getting parents to have their kids repeat. It goes on, you don't want to admit it that's fine but remember, only an idiot changes the facts to align with their views.

16 year old 8th grader. Still not committed....LOL

Hey Shakespeare, comprehend this you snotty little loser, tell your husband to dust off the mitt and bat and get your boy into something more his speed. Let go, it is over, come on, you can do it, I promise. [/quote]. OMG is that the best you have? Pathetic. Can't tell if you are male or female but either way, still pathetic. Must be a Crabs sh*thead for sure. Come on admit it, it isn't hard to tell the truth, come on, try hard, you can do it little one. [/quote]

Every kid that does pre first or repeats in MS isn't going to automatically play a different grade because a couple whining libs may get their feelings hurt. That is life, and it seems as if you can't accept the fact that on average, the private school kids are about a year older than the public. Making nasty comments about cheating is really code for your own insecurity within the sport. [/quote]

Code? Really, code. What a idiot you are. True, private school kids have a better opportunity to repeat but to say making comments about how Crabs and Ryan M operate is code for insecurity. Boy, you really have no idea what is going on in youth lax and if you are a Crabs parent, which I think you are, you are in it up to your nose.
The reputation of Crabs and Ryan M is well known, inside and outside of Md. They are not respected as a lax club because of Ryan M's business model of getting parents to have their kids repeat. It goes on, you don't want to admit it that's fine but remember, only an idiot changes the facts to align with their views. [/quote]

Clubs may get a huge grin and like when a kid repeats, but you are putting the cart in front of the horse. Parents and schools are not taking their lead from some club lacrosse program. FCA, Looneys, Crabs, and a few others, yes, get the best kids at tryouts, and yes the best kids are sometimes older because of independent choices they made at school. 90% of the kids you are really referencing, intentionally or not, did prefirst when they were like 6 years old, and maybe hadn't even started sports yet. To say that there is some plot going on, and one club owner is the overlord of admissions/placement year to year at 27 different schools across the state is just a silly and stupid notion. Even if there is one example of someone that used the rules to the extreme to gain advantage, to paint any one club with a broad brush and shill on a forum makes people sound more stupid than valid. I am not aware of documented infractions/penalties against any of these top teams. When you are on top, there will always be many looking to take you down.

Code? Really, code. What a idiot you are. True, private school kids have a better opportunity to repeat but to say making comments about how Crabs and Ryan M operate is code for insecurity. Boy, you really have no idea what is going on in youth lax and if you are a Crabs parent, which I think you are, you are in it up to your nose.
The reputation of Crabs and Ryan M is well known, inside and outside of Md. They are not respected as a lax club because of Ryan M's business model of getting parents to have their kids repeat. It goes on, you don't want to admit it that's fine but remember, only an idiot changes the facts to align with their views.[/quote] Uhhg.. His club and his reputation are well known.. Having the best teams and coaches in the area would be first and foremost....Go cry somewhere else Hillary Supporter... Tired of your tears...

Hey Shakespeare, comprehend this you snotty little loser, tell your husband to dust off the mitt and bat and get your boy into something more his speed. Let go, it is over, come on, you can do it, I promise.

[/quote]. OMG is that the best you have? Pathetic. Can't tell if you are male or female but either way, still pathetic. Must be a Crabs sh*thead for sure. Come on admit it, it isn't hard to tell the truth, come on, try hard, you can do it little one. [/quote]

Show your husband the things you write on hear!

Tell your kids and spouse that you are on an anonymous forum talking about a minor that is not your own. That is LOL.

. OMG is that the best you have? Pathetic. Can't tell if you are male or female but either way, still pathetic. Must be a Crabs sh*thead for sure. Come on admit it, it isn't hard to tell the truth, come on, try hard, you can do it little one. [/quote]

Show your husband the things you write on hear! [/quote]

Hey numb nuts the word is HERE not HEAR. Crabs supporters can't even use correct English.
Now, do you really know what your wife does all day at home when you are working on the road crew holding the stop and go sign? Just think about it, what is she up to. At least with your job you have a 50% chance to get it right. Let's not forget, crabs are no more that a STD, "pubic lice". Go look it up. You may have some of the symptoms.

What does grade have anything to do with this mess anymore. Would anyone be averse to me moving my 12 year old (August 2004) 7th grade, 2022 kid down to the 2023 team? Just so he can be better than most of the kids he is playing against? Heck, he's only 2 weeks away from being a true 2023/6th grader (we opted to have him start school earlier rather than later) so I guess we could really move him down to the 2024 team. He could really do some damage there, CRUSH those younger/smaller kids. He would be a STAR!!! Doesn't that *&^%ing ridiculous?

Or, maybe our age based 2021 team should just play the crabs 2022 team so the ages would be similar? There would only be a fewer older kids on our team. That's fair, right?

I do accept this BS now. It is what it is. My kid can take it, and dish it. He has very good coaches and is developing well. But, don't tell me that your team is better than mine, just because you prefer to have older kids play on your team.

I wonder which one of these "AA" teams, crabs included, is paying in the age based World Series of lax tourney? They would not be able to take their older kids, uh oh.

What does grade have anything to do with this mess anymore. Would anyone be averse to me moving my 12 year old (August 2004) 7th grade, 2022 kid down to the 2023 team? Just so he can be better than most of the kids he is playing against? Heck, he's only 2 weeks away from being a true 2023/6th grader (we opted to have him start school earlier rather than later) so I guess we could really move him down to the 2024 team. He could really do some damage there, CRUSH those younger/smaller kids. He would be a STAR!!! Doesn't that *&^%ing ridiculous?

Or, maybe our age based 2021 team should just play the crabs 2022 team so the ages would be similar? There would only be a fewer older kids on our team. That's fair, right?

I do accept this BS now. It is what it is. My kid can take it, and dish it. He has very good coaches and is developing well. But, don't tell me that your team is better than mine, just because you prefer to have older kids play on your team.

I wonder which one of these "AA" teams, crabs included, is paying in the age based World Series of lax tourney? They would not be able to take their older kids, uh oh.

Show your husband the things you write on hear! [/quote]

Hey numb nuts the word is HERE not HEAR. Crabs supporters can't even use correct English.
Now, do you really know what your wife does all day at home when you are working on the road crew holding the stop and go sign? Just think about it, what is she up to. At least with your job you have a 50% chance to get it right. Let's not forget, crabs are no more that a STD, "pubic lice". Go look it up. You may have some of the symptoms. [/quote]

You said "that", instead of "than". You ended a sentence with a preposition. Every one of your sentences has at least one punctuation error. If you had held back, you probably could have received some extra help with comma splices.

Holding back at the youth level
Red-shirting (simply means the coach thinks you ARE NOT READY or if you dont you will get killed - SEC football)
Prep- School (All the military academies - pushes PS even when a kid is on solid academic footing)
PG year - Salisbury, etc..again..just need one more year!

All ways, above board, to get more prepared for the road ahead-both academically and athletically - five years after college no ONE cares if you did any of the aforementioned - did you graduate from the school of your choice- great!..did you play - even better...its just the business of sports...not always fair ok, ok, ok, I agree but the playground is wide open - any athlete can choose to do these things to get better at any age straight thru college- why waste time and energy arguing its fairness- to what end?..we all know who does it and why?...why 268 pages on the same exact topic?..what am i missing?

Hey numb nuts the word is HERE not HEAR. Crabs supporters can't even use correct English.
Now, do you really know what your wife does all day at home when you are working on the road crew holding the stop and go sign? Just think about it, what is she up to. At least with your job you have a 50% chance to get it right. Let's not forget, crabs are no more that a STD, "pubic lice". Go look it up. You may have some of the symptoms. [/quote]

You said "that", instead of "than". You ended a sentence with a preposition. Every one of your sentences has at least one punctuation error. If you had held back, you probably could have received some extra help with comma splices. [/quote]

Didn't write what you responded to. Is this how one should use commas? This,is,how,Ryan,M,taught,us,how,to, use,commas,so,that,we,would,have,a,good,chance,of,repeating,7th,or,8th,grade,and,become,a,holdback!!! He always said can never have too many commas or holdbacks.

You said "that", instead of "than". You ended a sentence with a preposition. Every one of your sentences has at least one punctuation error. If you had held back, you probably could have received some extra help with comma splices. [/quote]

Didn't write what you responded to. Is this how one should use commas? This,is,how,Ryan,M,taught,us,how,to, use,commas,so,that,we,would,have,a,good,chance,of,repeating,7th,or,8th,grade,and,become,a,holdback!!! He always said can never have too many commas or holdbacks. [/quote]

This is getting [lacrosse].

This is getting [lacrosse]. [/quote]. Not as [lacrosse] as the Crabs organization. Should I have used commas? Ask Ryan, he will know.

Crab parent here. Our son has had outstanding training and an excellent team experience playing on the Crabs 2019. The boys live the Crabs motto to respect all but fear none. I wish the parents on this forum could do the same. Lacrosse is not only a great sport, it's fun! And seeing these boys play their hearts out and come together as a team is what it's all about.

Lol. Of course - no other club teams provides that to their kids. Puhleez. Not to mention that half your 2019 team should be 2018s. Fat Crab respects two things - money and pork rinds. Not necessarily in that order...

Who cares about crabs and holdbacks. Reality: only a few from each class will be recruited and offerered any percentage of scholarship. And those kids get noticed because of their MIAA team. Look at the history. Period.

So they are on the best club teams and best school teams. What is your point? Hundreds of players went on to successful college careers, many noticed at school, many noticed at club events, many noticed at both. Many got noticed and recruited before a full varsity season, so your history may be a bit rusty.

I agree its hard to say a kid got notice at his MIAA school when you have 20 or so 2020 and 60 2019 kids on the Verbal list to D1 schools. I am guessing most have 0 or very little Var. stats at the schools they attend.

When's the last time you saw college coaches at an MIAA game other than Petro or Toomey or other local coaches? Times have changed.

They all send assistants. Very heavily scouted. These are the games they go to when they are making final determinations on specific players.

So the 2022 and 2024 teams finished a combined 2-10. The 2022's outscored by 20 goals for the season and the 2024's by 55.

What has happened? It's not just the grade based change. Is it that there are just more choices now and people don't want to expose their kids to RM and his bullish antics?

The 2023 Team has 5 holdbacks and two are 14 years old; real safe playing 2023 lacrosse against 11/12 year olds! Nice work Crabs!

I would guess that most clubs start at 3rd grade and Crabs doesn't start until 5th grade. Kids happy with their club for 2 years aren't likely to move.

The 2022s have a ton of holdbacks also. They just aren't the best players. Why play for Crabs when you can play for Millon?

If true, how shameful. There is not a single 14 year old on my son's 2022 team.