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How do you know if it is a yellow jacket parent etc. who is actually posting these things or not.If you think their leader C.R. actually sent out an order for YJ parents etc. to not post on this or any forum you are an idiot.

The person who posted this is a loser, and I fell bad for your daughter.

dear anonymous - please clarify why you think anonymous is a loser, what he/she said made sense to me if I am understanding correctly, because Long Island is a hot bed of lacrosse potential scholarship opportunities are greater then girls from others parts of the country except maybe Maryland, as opposed to soccer scholarship opportunities are better in other parts of the country then long island. hotbeds like Portland and St Louis

D3 has no sports scholarships and scholarships and committm ents are two very different things

I think you shocked alot of people with this one, alot of YJ parents didnt know this

"I think you shocked alot of people with this one, alot of YJ parents didnt know this" Give us all a break, I am a non YJ parent but the nonsense has to stop somewhwere.

True story : BOTC recently spoke with two families (in the last two months), one for soccer recruitment and one for lacrosse. Neither family knew that Division III did not offer athletic money. Both families had already participated in at least two showcase events at the time we spoke with them. The bottom line is that recruitment education outside of the premier and elite clubs is not as strong as one would expect.

Our guess is that the Yellow Jacket family as a whole is better educated than most, but we took the question on face value.

As per YJ website,

500+ Division 1 recruits since 2000
100+ Division 2 and 3 combined since 2000

Seems to me YJ are well educated on the difference between Div 1 and Div 2 and 3

GREAT POST. Just because someone has committed doesnt mean full ride and could mean they didnt get a penny.

Every kid playing travel lacrosse is going to college and it you wait long enough they all commit.

For these travel clubs to take credit for every college choice is absurd

dear anonymous - please clarify why you think anonymous is a loser, what he/she said made sense to me if I am understanding correctly, because Long Island is a hot bed of lacrosse potential scholarship opportunities are greater then girls from others parts of the country except maybe Maryland, as opposed to soccer scholarship opportunities are better in other parts of the country then long island. hotbeds like Portland and St Louis

Seems the unofficial gag order might be kicking in.

I'm sure there's just as much pressure taking NYS ELA standardized test's and even more come SAT time, let's hope all you folks are as invested in those as you are in your childs lax life, because guess what if you kid tanks in school (meaning less than an 85-90 average) and has unimpressive SAT scores they won't have many colleges interested in them, never mind scholarship money, get in the game - reality check - lax will end for all these kids by the time there 22 years old, hopefully they were able to get a good education and do something productive with themselves after lax

Actually I fared very well with [lacrosse]. I own [lacrosse].com, and helped launch another parallel league that is kick their butt. You really think you know something wnen in fact you know very little. If you think I didn't fare well against the [lacrosse], why don't you post your itemized list?

The Long Island Lacrosse community is in dire need of a real league and structure, boys and girls. With your experience of launching a soccer league, you should launch a properly run and managed lacrosse league. Right now all the leauges are a scattered mess and the tournaments are local non-sense (players of different ages jumping around teams). Maybe tie in with other regionals and national leagues and tournaments. Only problem is you would probably have a hard time getting yellow jackets to play in it at this point, which is okay because no one wants to play in their tournament either.

In order for a league structure to take hold and supercede the independent leagues now in place, there must be support from a sanctioning body (US Lacrosse, locally represented by the Long Island Metropolitan Lacrosse Foundation) and a process for club and player registrations. This is one reason why BOTC recently interviewed Harry Jacobs and shared that interview with our readers.

Our goal should be to create something sustainable, not based on the people doing it today, but longer term for the betterment of Long Island lacrosse.

As for how such a league might evolve in the future, you could certainly attract a large number of town teams and over time, an elite program will emerge from such a structure. Once those elite structures begin to emerge, current elite programs might seek to join.

One reason why a league structure would initially focus on town teams is that these programs have access to field space (usually on local permits) which makes the schedule creation process all that much easier. When premier/elite programs do not have permits for fields is when the problems start in scheduling.

I know a goalie from the Maryland/DC area who received a full athletic, no academic money, lacrosse scholarship. Playing a D1 sport is [lacrosse], rremeber what you wish for. Most girls get little or no athletic money. Big name lacrosse schools usually only give out 25% to incoming freshmen, they then may increase it if they contribute to the success of the team. Remember a fully funded program has only 12 scholarships to split up, many teams like Stanford are not fully funded and have even less scholarship money to spread around. Go to the the best academic school your daughter can get into, not the best lax program, ie choose Vassar, Stanford, Colgate over Penn State, UNC, Florida, or Maryland. The small elite universities have a far superior network base and the graduates have a much higher salary average.

I know a goalie from the Maryland/DC area who received a full athletic, no academic money, lacrosse scholarship. Playing a D1 sport is [lacrosse], rremeber what you wish for. Most girls get little or no athletic money. Big name lacrosse schools usually only give out 25% to incoming freshmen, they then may increase it if they contribute to the success of the team. Remember a fully funded program has only 12 scholarships to split up, many teams like Stanford are not fully funded and have even less scholarship money to spread around. Go to the the best academic school your daughter can get into, not the best lax program, ie choose Vassar, Stanford, Colgate over Penn State, UNC, Florida, or Maryland. The small elite universities have a far superior network base and the graduates have a much higher salary average.

Yeah, but there are some kids who want to play for love of the game. You have it sounding all too much like a job, go here and work cause it pays better. There is plenty of time for that, the rest of their lives will be spent doing that. If it were a pure finacial thing, save the $5k + a year spent on lax teams, tournament, equipment, training, recruiting, cothes etc... get you daughter an after school job during HS and college and full time summer job instead of time spent at lax practice and games. Seriously, add up 6 years of HS and 4 years of college, how much time spent playing instead of what could have been spent earning, now throw in the 30-50k++ many spend on the sport. The point is, most of us throw this out the window because the kids love to play. If you try to put a finacial scholarship justification spin on the whole thing, there is no doubt it is a losing battle for nearly all involved, except the people making the money off lax. You do allude to the real value, and it's not scholarship money. If your kid can get into a better college because of lacrosse, that's where the value may be, but again if she spent all the time studying rather than playing lax, she would likely have the grades to get in anyway, so again it is back to play for the love of the game.

So....according to this...a is a 40% offer good?

YJ gag order by queen bee . but they still take a peek

Here is something even scarier ,they let people like you have children. You have gotten no response from your obvious try to instigate because no one has any idea what you are trying to say. Is the YJ the best organization for everyone, absolutely not.Do they usually have the absolute best team on long island at any age group,absolutely yes. Do CR make a lot of money because of it ,absolutely

They just cant stop shooting off there mouths and bragging, even when CR says to stop, obnoxious to the core