BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Faceoff Petition 2014

What school? Suppose you can share that as we don't know your name or kids year so you can still be anonymous, but the info would certainly help in my negotiations.

All these years and I don't know anyone with a full ride for lax. I know plenty that when they combined the athletic $, the merit $ and the need based aid, they didn't have to pay anything to go to school. If that is considered a full ride by you, fine and congratulations. When the rest of the sports world hears full ride, the think all the $ is athletic only.

If you are lucky enough to have received a full ride for athletics, congratulations but it is far from normal.

I can promise you my post is legit and the school is ranked in top 50. Other than that I would like keep details Anonymous. I may be biased but my son is considered a very special player by many. Works extremely hard! Good luck to all the boys

Whole thing is crazy if you ask me. If you don't make enough $ and qualify for need, good for you.

For mine, no need based possible which is ok. But then you get offered a 20% athletic to a $60k school and there is no merit money. Your kid is thrilled and the local lax community thinks you hit it big...

So now you have to pay $48k per year to say you went to blah blah school. What if parent can only pay half of the 48, is it reasonable to allow your kid to borrow $100k to attend blah blah school. Not in my mind, much better to focus on schools with merit money, sorry patriot league.

So my question is why would you come on this site and boast your son got a full ride? Is there something wrong with saying your son got his tuition paid for with an athletic scholarship? When you lie it opens this up to people to criticize. I've been around this a very long time, trust me, hardly anyone ever gets a full ride. Most kids don't come close to getting what your son is getting. Stop telling people you are getting something you are not. Be proud of the truth. It's a great job by your son.

New rule applies to NCAA starting this season.

Ok so nothing changes at the youth level?

Been to two college prospect days. At one, college rules, at the other old rules. depends on the coach i guess..

One of the complaints about new rules is a higher risk of injury. The colleges are a few weeks into fall ball. Is anyone aware of a higher injury rate on facoffs?

With several prospect/showcase events following NCAA rules, has anyone noted impact beyond what was intended?

No but on a recent school visit my 2020 M/FO kid who came along for the ride was told by the coach to take up MMA if he wants to be of value at the X

MY son attended two prospect camps this past weekend and faced-off using the new rules. I think the injury thing is blown way of way out of proportion. The skilled face-off boys will adjust and prevail. What I can tell you is that they are looking for Middies that can play on offense and defense. Being a FOGO only at this point time is not what they are looking for.

When putting highlight video together do you include face-off losses or just wins?
Is the coach supposed to assume you win 100% of the time?
How your losses impact your team are very important, especially under the new rules where I'd expect closer to 50/50.

Great question! My son only included wins. We all know they will lose, but why show it. Highlights should be of the best examples. I would suggest grouping many wins from the same games against the best competitors. Any decent F/O will have a good record against less skilled opponents, and we all know who the top guys are.

When putting highlight video together do you include face-off losses or just wins?
Is the coach supposed to assume you win 100% of the time?
How your losses impact your team are very important, especially under the new rules where I'd expect closer to 50/50.

Include losses, coaches like to see how you react. Do you chase? Do you check and get the ball back? It's not always about the W

Would you suggest putting an internet petition together to convince the coach your son deserves a shot? Afterall this thread is also about internet petitions.

Don't need one, already have a commitment to a top program with a 50% of total scholarship. Maybe you should try the petition angle for your kid.

Completely agree. Watched a bunch of games at Terapin event in MD yesterday. The kids we knew to be the best before the rule change, were still the best.

Still think it takes a bunch away from the game although there are more ground balls, the kids that can clamp and pop out to the wing are very successful even with the new rule.

The biggest problem I saw was with the ball placement. Depending on the ref, those kids are down there kneeling in their stance for far too long. When you have a really good kid going against a lesser kid, it seems the lesser kid jumps more because he is down there longer...

Anyone attend the faceoff competition this weekend? Seems like the best known kids went there.

One of the problematic things in lacrosse now is the financial and motivational disinclination of committed kids to keep grinding away at events like this. I can't find a fault in families who want to stop the financial slam downs of constant showcases and events like this face-off academy. The residual is the next line of kids getting their ink and hype from the lacrosse social media journalists, which is good for them I suppose.

I find it disturbing that everything in this sport now seems to line up toward being all in for the money grab in 7th grade and 8th grade, and then resting on U-15 age laurels when committed. If this was a big time face-off event and most or all of the committed kids passed, that just reiterates the real morass that has taken over this sport. These two one to three day hit-and-run events are how clubs, MLL players, college coaches and events guys are now all trying to make their livings at once and the sheer volume of it is comedic, and the quality of it only goes down when better players have no incentive to subscribe.

2019 kids are in 8th grade now. no different than the hype we heard last year about 2018

2 of the committed 2018 fogos not there. Can't blame the families for not spending the $500