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All Hawks tryouts had more than enough kids for an A & B teams at most ages. For those ages where the tryouts were not well attended, only an A team was put together. All Hawks teams have winning records. If Hogan was just in it for the cash, there would be multiple A or B teams at every level and their poor performance would reflect it. He does a great job for the kids that live within 1/2 hr of Annapolis. The Baltimore & DC clubs have a much larger pool of kids to pull from.

Bad day to be a crab yesterday. Just because it says Crabs on jersey does not make you a good team. Crabs 2022 not very good

What's Crabs 2021's excuse?

Much larger pool? But how many teams are there? crabs, breakers, rock, FCA, Greene Turtle, MLC, Zingos, Koopers, Roughriders, Looneys, MD Elite, Bitmore. Should I keep going?

It will be they were missing kids or the coach wasnt there. Up 5-0 to the the 2021 Hawks and losing in OT......coaching!!!!

What are you basing this on? Crabs 2022 outplayed Hawks all game until blowing a 2 goal lead in the last minute. Then they lost 4-2 to Manhasset. After that they beat Looneys 16-3. You have to remember, yesterday was the first day that Crabs team ever played together in a game. Considering the Hawks and Manhasset teams have existed for 2-3 years, I would say what the 2022 did yesterday was pretty impressive. We will see in the spring when it comes to Hawks vs Crabs

Same boat for Annapolis clubs - Sidewinders, Prime, Arden, PLC, Snappers, API, etc. Lots of clubs fighting for kids in the Annapolis pool as well - just a smaller pool. Even more a testament to what Hogan has accomplished (FYI - MD Elite was in Emmitsburg and merged with Lax Factory in Frederick - so they are not really in the Baltimore pool)

Crabs younger teams aren't good until they start bringing in the reclassed kids around 6th grade. Lots of good lax in the baltimore area but nothing special until they start cheating and placing older kids against younger kids. Don't have to be a rhodes scholar do know that the older kids will outperform...Great to see the club lose so much yesterday when playing against kids their own age.

The youth level teams for Crabs will never be heads above the rest again. The sport has grown and there are a lot of great players being developed at many programs. FCA, Madax and Breakers and other clubs also have good coaching and player development. Another reason why is Ryan McClernan is starting to pay for many years of treating people badly and being a bully. That may seem pathetic to Crabs toughies, but lacrosse clubs are youth sport organizations with paying customers. He treats lacrosse families like garbage and expects everyone to keep begging for more so their son can play college lacrosse. Turns out he is not the gatekeeper and there are a lot of competing clubs that develop players who wind up getting college opportunities.

There 2021 has many holdbacks on it now. Dont know about holdbacks on GT and Hawks?. But I thought that with their holdbacks and older players that Crabs would have gone 3-0 at GT. I guess I was wrong.
Still a good team . Just not going to dominate.

Let me guess Jack [lacrosse],
Your kid did not make Crabs.

We made the switch and have never been treated better.
Getting more looks and more contact from D1 college coaches than you could imagine.

Also playing with better players.
He gets results..

Get your son on that damn wall......

I agree. With the explosion of Club teams in last couple of years many players at a young age are getting very good instructions.
Baltimore had a lot of good lacrosse players coming out of it in years past. But I think in the next few years there will be a bigger pool of players with talent coming from Baltimore. Of course other areas are also coming on strong too with their talented players..

There are so many haters on this board it’s hilarious. If the Crabs win – they’ve cheated. If they lose – they’re @@@holes. “McClernan’s making too much money”… “other programs are stepping up” … “MccClernan’s a jerk to the parents.” uhhh … ok?

There isn’t a successful club program director out there who spends much time catering to hypersensitive, helicopter parents. Call Bryan Kelly or Hogan or Maddex and spell out your vision for Junior’s Division 1 future… or better yet tell them why your eye for lacrosse talent is more developed than theirs … they will all respond similarly … and you’ll post about that too.

Bottom Line: deeeeep down inside you would all jump at the chance to put your little scooper on a Crabs team. Junior’s just not good enough right now and you’re really angry about it. So you will complain and whine until next year when Junior shows up at try-outs again and the cycle continues.

They'll "jump at the chance" once they get held back in 7th grade...

How did FCA _Crabs game at Hopkins yesterday go?
2018's??

Crabs won 10-6

How about 91 Extreme v Crabs 2018?

You haters are all idiots. Yes Crabs 2022 lost to Hawks. In OT. After controlling the whole game. After blowing a 2 goal lead in last minute. Don't mention that Hawks teams start in 3rd grade and Sunday was the first time this Crabs team has played together. So keep pounding your chest that in your third year together you beat a team that has practiced three times.

We left Crabs for a better program. Deep down, nobody cares that much about you Ryan to take the fake tough talk from a guy who never played the game, never played a college sport or competed at a high level in any sport. And yes, my kid is a high level D1 commit, but thank you for your concerns.

and just wait till they get into 6th grade and our holds kick in. You won't be smiling then.

91 won 8-6.

the 91 fogo was outstanding....won 80%+....

91 won 8-6 over crabs

FYI hawks 2022 is average at best team for this age group.
Yes maybe crabs first game as crabs but not first time playing lacrosee. What else you got. NY team you lost to is a town team not a club team not even in the top ten LI teams.

You're an idiot. You really think Crabs is the only team that has hold backs? There are just as many on Breakers and FCA.

It's not hating. It's the same reason everyone rushes the court when they beat duke. You can't dominate for years and then get pissed off and offer up lame excuses when the teams you beat up on occasionally get a win.

What's the excuse for the 2021 crabs that lost to 2021 Hawks after taking 4 of the starting Hawks from last year's team.

Factually incorrect. There is not a program in Baltimore with the number of holdbacks - across all of the older teams - that the Crabs have. No other program comes remotely close.

That is correct. Crabs have the prize for most holdbacks. Ryan has said many times to parents he encourages it for developement

Thats interesting ..4 starters left Hawks and Hawks beat them . Thats gotta feel good.

I'm not a crab parent. My kid would likely not make the crabs. He's young for his grade and still filling out, and although he has some high level skill, he likely wouldn't be get picked for a crabs team -- bigger, stronger, faster. We play for a competitive program in Baltimore and we'll wait and see how it goes.

That said, if you are discussing programs which have turned out some incredibly successful players and prepared them for the next LACROSSE level, there isn't another program in Baltimore with an equally successful track record... Period. The crabs are mercenaries... They pick the very best in their class and they play the very best... And their kids move on to play great lacrosse for prominent schools... Period. If that's how you define success, then the crabs have everyone beat...Period.

"Left for a better program". I doubt it. There is always more to the story. My kid plays for one of those "better programs" and when I meet a family coming from the crabs... Inevitably there is more to the story.

McClernan "Never played college lacrosse" so he must suck... Uhhh .... Professional sports and business in general is chock full of people who create winning organizations and never played the game at a high level. My opinion --- a lot of these guys over 40 who were lax all stars and coach lax all teams would not have played the game at the same level if they were college athletes today... Look at them... And then look at the rosters of D 1 today. The game has changed.

Well said...
Baltimore Crabs id hands down the best program in the DMV

I agree, best in Baltimore. All the others are extension of rec.

Crabs the best in Baltimore at one time. But like all good things it comes to a end. Times are a changing.

Please, there are good teams at different grad years. The good ones will leave for crabs for a few reasons. Name and to get away from daddy ball.

I would agree with most of what the prior poster states, however, Manhasset's town team beat every other travel club on LI last year except for Team 91's "A" Team, to say "not even in the top ten LI teams" is [lacrosse].

This post was obviously written by Ryan McClernan. I don't define better as being on the best club team winning the most "ships" as King Crab loves tweeting about. I define it as player development and there are programs doing it better with specialist coaches at positions like FoGo and goalie. Want specialist instruction at Crabs? Go to a clinic or camp. There isn't any doubt Crabs spent most of the last decade kicking everyone's teeth in and placing many more players into college than all others. That said, all others locally were not around 10 years ago and many like FCA were not around even 3-4 years ago. Look how much that gap closed even in the past year at the youth levels. Yes, Crabs ogle and market to get the best players from other programs to come over. Paul Rabil was a Crab? Yes, when he was finishing up high school. The signature Crabs player started somewhere else. But now, that seems to work less or not at all. Years of arse kissing later Crabs didn't get the Breakers or FCA Baltimore area commits to come over and these are kids who organically came up at those programs and are ACC, Big 10 or other big program commits. The Crabs tribal dance over being the 800 pound gorilla for 10+ years is at best misleading. For most of that time they were the only animal specie in a very small jungle. And it again comes down to how people are treated. My Kim didn't get cut, he wanted another program with better player development because winning 'ships on a high school club team does nothing to advance his game. Yes, team mommies ask about former Crabs. Some kids cut, but a growing trend is they just leave to go elsewhere for some reason...friends, coaching preferences or club philosophy change. And sometimes there is a lot more to the story, and that is usually that Ryan is disliked and not fogotten quickly enough for treating people poorly or unprofessionally. Kind of like the Madlax pounding, you hear something once maybe you look past. You hear it over and over, and...

Ever notice how Crabs are always outraged on this thread and turn the bully fast? Yeah, that works out great in a youth sport for a long time...until something better comes along and is available. Like Breakers, FCA, etc all of whom can now compete with or beat Crabs youth and HS teams on a given day

Not sure of any town teams down here that cost $1000 to play for.

Really???? The times are changing? Show me one other club that came anywhere near to matching what Crabs graduated last year.

Tal Bruno - Mid - BL JHU
Shack Stanwick - Att - BL JHU
Hunter Moreland - Mid - BL JHU
Brinton Valis - Mid - Mcdonogh JHU
Chase Campbell - Def - Gilman UVA
Tyler Ruhl - Att - Gilman ND
Pierre Byrne - Att - Culver ND
Erik Evans - Def - CHC OSU
Brendan Barger -LPM - Gilman OSU
Colin Chell - ATT - BL OSU
Brock Turnbaugh - Goal - Hereford JHU
Jesse Uhlman - Mid - Westminster TU
William McBride - Mid - Gilman UNC
Calvin Livingston - Def - McDonogh TU
Chase Wittich - Att - Gilman Colgate
Chris Anderson - Mid - Loyola Brown
Whit Schweizer - LPM - SP Washington College
Pat McManus - Mid - BL Washington College
Brandon Aro - Def - Rising Sun Navy
Andrew Gemma - Mid - Gilman Tufts
Peter Brown - Mid - Gilman Sewanee
​Keegan O'Connor - Mid - BL UMD
Michael Alderman - Mid - Loyola Hamilton College

Breakers?? They can't even fill out their youth teams. Their 2019 team won about 3 games last year. I agree, Crabs was the elephant for years, but honestly, Breakers was a close second. If you want to talk about a club falling off, it's Breakers, not Crabs. The clubs are coning up with all this "Developmental Programs" to offer something different. Don't act like it's an extra perc as opposed to Crabs pushing you to their camps. Breakers new "Developmental Program" that Mark is pushing down everyone's throats is costing parents an extra $700 bucks this year pushing the total price to play for Breakers up near $2500. I asked a 2019 parent what they are getting for the extra $700 and he said hopefully a couple more wins. Every club has faults. If you think Mark Millon is any less arrogant than Ryan you're kidding yourself. Every club is out to get the best kids, to get their kids the most "Ships". It's a wicked game that we all choose to be a part of. All parents can do is what they feel is right for their kid. For some it's Crabs, others it's Breakers or FCA. I have boys at multiple clubs. My son on Crabs is there because he wanted to be. Most of the kids on their team always wanted to be on Crabs and a lot of them were cut at one point. It's not the parents in many of these cases pushing them there. The perception amongst a lot of the kids is that Crabs is the best and that's where they want to be. Until the perception changes things will stay the same.

How many of these kids were with the Crabs for more than a year or two?

I was getting the impression that Crabs were just becoming an East Coast all star team that went to a couple tournaments together with minimal practices and development.

I had heard that even the sons of competing clubs will join the crabs all star tour just for the visibility of skills learned elsewhere.

A list of 2014 commits? Really? The point is that lacrosse has moved in past 3-4 years and that is the same 3-4 years that has shown new clubs. The 2014 HS class is a prime exemplar of the past. You see another great 2015 commits list for Crabs, and then the 2016s has a drop off and the 2017s another drop off. Yes, some great players and commits but the same number of commits as FCA and Breakers. And no...you don't have FCA kids auditioning to be Crabs or kids from DC craving to leave their clubs to drive up or Annapolis kids looking beyond the new 3d thing growing over there for a change. There is a lot of great lacrosse In Maryland now and it isn't going back to the good ole Crabs roll everyone over years.