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So if a D1 college coach of a school you were interested in came to you or your son's club coach and said "we really like Jimmy, but think he needs another year to mature. Would he repeat/PG somewhere?" Would your answer be No? Would you consider that a disgrace if your child took advantage of that opportunity?

Difference is a lacrosse player from UNC doesn't need to go to real classes, Binghamton player does. Lafayette player does. Some of you on here have NO clue how this works with the UMDs, UNCs, UVAs, Hopkins, Cuse's of the world. Talk to those who have been there, careful what you ask for with those huge lax programs, you are there to PLAY LACROSSE 1st!

If thats what you want for your kid than aim for that.

This is interesting, the lowest salary for a WNBA player made roughly $35,000 per year in 2012. Tell me how much a "top starter" in MLL makes?

Difference is a lacrosse player from UNC doesn't need to go to real classes, Binghamton player does. Lafayette player does. Some of you on here have NO clue how this works with the UMDs, UNCs, UVAs, Hopkins, Cuse's of the world. Talk to those who have been there, careful what you ask for with those huge lax programs, you are there to PLAY LACROSSE 1st!

If thats what you want for your kid than aim for that.

This is interesting, the lowest salary for a WNBA player made roughly $35,000 per year in 2012. Tell me how much a "top starter" in MLL makes?

What's the real difference/distinction?

MLL is not for all D1 players. Weak comparison.... You can still play lacrosse and do well at both schools. You get out of your education what you put into it. I like my chances better graduating from UNC with a 3.8 GPA compared to Binghamton with the same GPA.

Exactly. So if you have a 15 year old lacking in physical maturity/testosterone it's completely understandable why someone would reclassify that kid to somewhat remove the disadvantage of late puberty that you have so eloquently set forth above. Especially now that PGing in lacrosse is not going to open many doors unless you go in with an offer in hand.

Your wrong. UNC is more competitive and requires hire standards to get into than Binghamton. Binghamton is a great school however does not support your claim.

Ok I posted what you replied to. Please answer this question, what will your major be while you are getting your "3.8" as a UNC lacrosse player?

Actually not a claim, higher sat's and grades needed at Bing, try again.

Which prospect camp? You are completely, dangerously wrong. They divide by graduation year. Which you would know if you had ever been at one. You clearly have a kid that enjoyed/exploited the advantage of early puberty and now you want to deny other players an even playing ground. You don't object to recruiting inequities, you just object to inequities that don't work in your child's favor.

I didn't say every prospect camp, I said this one, and no I'm not wrong. I only hope moving forward, the rest of the schools start to follow suit. So people like you can crawl back into the hole you came out of. Just because your son wasn't invited, doesn't make it untrue. The trembling in your writing wreaks of the horror you feel that your hold back won't accomplish "your" desired goals. If my son was an early to mature young man, (and he's not) I would challenge him to play up. Unlike yourself, who is trying to manipulate the system for your kids benefit. Further, the early maturing player's perceived advantage is fleeting at best. If they do not continue to work, and rely on a size advantage, that advantage fades very quickly. It will be of little benefit in HS and ZERO benefit in college. However, you seek to create a permanent advantage for your son. When he does mature, the perceived deficits you are concerned with will disappear and the age difference will give him the permanent advantage you seek, all at another's expense. The definition of a CHEAT. Look up the word! Get it now?

I didn't say every prospect camp, I said this one, and no I'm not wrong. I only hope moving forward, the rest of the schools start to follow suit. So people like you can crawl back into the hole you came out of. Just because your son wasn't invited, doesn't make it untrue. The trembling in your writing wreaks of the horror you feel that your hold back won't accomplish "your" desired goals. If my son was an early to mature young man, (and he's not) I would challenge him to play up. Unlike yourself, who is trying to manipulate the system for your kids benefit. Further, the early maturing player's perceived advantage is fleeting at best. If they do not continue to work, and rely on a size advantage, that advantage fades very quickly. It will be of little benefit in HS and ZERO benefit in college. However, you seek to create a permanent advantage for your son. When he does mature, the perceived deficits you are concerned with will disappear and the age difference will give him the permanent advantage you seek, all at another's expense. The definition of a CHEAT. Look up the word! Get it now?

just to put my two cents in, my kid is a 2018 and was born in 2000, we would never reclassify because he is too socially mature and too good a student to repeat 8th grade although he is not physically matured and he would benefit greatly by reclassifying. Socially it would be wrong from him and honestly as much as he loves lacrosse (as do my wife and I) it is not that important to him.

Having said that, I have no issues with a kid or family that do reclassify, I think it is a great way to get him an advantage in life and I think that while it is a very personal decision if it helps him get into that dream school, good for him and it is not cheating IMHO. I have no problem with my kid having to compete with 2018 reclassified kids that will be up to 16 months older, that is life and you play the hand you are dealt. as far as PG, the only way that we will consider this is if a "dream" school will only commit to him if he does the PG year, with all the early committing going on I do not think you can do a PG year anymore as a non committed player and hope to get recruited as a thirteenth grader.

I am really looking forward to the next two month of showcases and prospect days and seeing my son compete against the best 2018 players in the country regardless of age.

good luck to all of our boys

What do you think of a player in 10th grade who is playing down in 9th grade. Actually enrolled in 10th grade at a local catholic school. Not small and is mature looking for his age. Has yet to repeat a grade and will at a latter date in time.

What do you think of a player in 10th grade who is playing down in 9th grade. Actually enrolled in 10th grade at a local catholic school. Not small and is mature looking for his age. Has yet to repeat a grade and will at a latter date in time.

IMHO if he is a 2017 he should play 2017 and when he reclassifies I have no problem with him playing 2018 - but I understand if he is going to graduate in 2018 to play 2018 but not if he is going to graduate in 2017 and PG

just to put my two cents in, my kid is a 2018 and was born in 2000, we would never reclassify because he is too socially mature and too good a student to repeat 8th grade although he is not physically matured and he would benefit greatly by reclassifying. Socially it would be wrong from him and honestly as much as he loves lacrosse (as do my wife and I) it is not that important to him.

Having said that, I have no issues with a kid or family that do reclassify, I think it is a great way to get him an advantage in life and I think that while it is a very personal decision if it helps him get into that dream school, good for him and it is not cheating IMHO. I have no problem with my kid having to compete with 2018 reclassified kids that will be up to 16 months older, that is life and you play the hand you are dealt. as far as PG, the only way that we will consider this is if a "dream" school will only commit to him if he does the PG year, with all the early committing going on I do not think you can do a PG year anymore as a non committed player and hope to get recruited as a thirteenth grader.

I am really looking forward to the next two month of showcases and prospect days and seeing my son compete against the best 2018 players in the country regardless of age.

good luck to all of our boys

If you ask me (or anyone else) I think 100% would say that is the worst kind of cheating. At least a holdback has to put up with the embarrassment among his peers. Is this being done in the open? Arent you calling this out? Who is allowing this? Really this should be pointed out and stopped.

Good luck???

Maybe for the cheaters!

They are not playing with the "cards they were dealt" , rather they ate re shuffling them to their advantage, and to others expense.

Your post was just pure ignorance and stupidity. Let's see if you feel the same way when a reclass loser takes your son's scholarship!

WAKE UP!!!

If you leave your kid back because he can't do the homework and is failing, i have no issue. If you re-class (leave your kid back) for lax opportinity, you are a cheater and everyone is talking about you and your family behind your back. Even your closest friends think you are sleezy...

Obviously you know it is wrong or you wouldn't be here trying to justify.

I feel bad for your son as all the other boys are snickering behind his back. What parent would put a kid in that situation? Or maybe you will tell me it was your 14 year old boys ideat to repeat a grade?

Did you sneek him into another school in hopes that you could fit him in in a place where no one knows you and him???

When you and your partner-husband or wife-talked about this, was part of the conversation how you would enroll him in private school (you can name the school-but all MD schools fit the bill) where other people reclass as well so the stigma would be less?

Come on, you know it is cheating and you know it is wrong, but you did it so you could tell the world your boy is playing d-1 lax...It is about you, not the kid.

Tell me, if you think this really gives your kid a leg up in life, did you do lot's of research on the life impacts of having a 14 year old repeat a grade? Point to the study or the research so maybe we can all learn something.

I suspect you did no research and rather you spent more time buying your last car then you did when mking this decision...

While I feel bad for your son, it is clear that you and most of the rest of re-class parents are slimy people looking for a way to get ahead without playing fair. Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it is right or fair. that is what cheating is, not necessarily illegal but clearly not the right thing to do.

all that said, i really hope it works for your boy and this doesnt backfire on him as he really had no part in the decision, it all came from your misguided approach to what i believe was a noble thought. In your warped mind you think you are doing the best thing possiple for your kid--I get that and that is the noble part. It is how you chose to get that advantage that is the warped part.

2018 fl$ goalie ... enough said.

The previous poster wishes your son well, I personally hope he crashes and burns at some point. I will be cheering for that. My older son is already committed but I am still extremely disgusted that he needed to fight for a spot against kids1-2 years older that him. I do however agree with the poster that you are a sleazy cheater.

If harvard told you to repeat your kid you would do it in a second. If you wouldn't you're an idiot.

oh my, what a bunch of babies - no wonder your kids can't compete, you want to sit back and have it handed to you. go out and compete against all the 2018's and stop crying. The colleges do not care how old you are they care about when you are graduating HS, when you plan on starting college, how good a player you are and how good a player you are going to be but never how old the kid is.

Really!!! That statement says a lot. It just proved you're son is simply NOT THERE. bc it is a fact: schools DO suggest a repeat/pg year, especially for the younger players.College coaches could care less about the kids age. All they want is a superior academic student with great lacrosse resume. Just keep burying your head in the sand. Maybe then your incessant crying and lack of knowledge will stop.