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You do realize there are 20 million people in NY and 6 million people in MD? But why let facts skew LI confused reality.

Show up or shut up. This tournament is run by the governing body of lacrosse nationally. Why not participate? If you do not show, your opinion is without merit. Come play and let the score do the talking otherwise it just rings hollow. This tourney is also age based and not grad. year so perhaps that is the real reason those teams stay away. It cannot be money or the travel, these programs have/do both for other events. It also supports growing the game around the country which is the best reason to go and support the cause.
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We don't have to…..LOL More of our girls get recruited to Div. 1 programs because we are the hotbed for lacrosse. Isn't that the goal of the club lacrosse scene, to get recruited. Yet your director chose to ignore a major recruiting event how many of your girls missed out???? They could of been seen, but your director took you guys to Colorado, with few college coaches. You have good players but more of our girls play college lacrosse at a higher level than yours does. The only reason you traveled to Colorado was so your director could win and use it as a marketing tool o bring more girls into her program. You New Yorkers are notoriously Fair Weather fans, parents are probably flocking to her tryouts since she won, "Gold, Silver and Bronze" with out playing a mid-atlantic team. Joke
[/quote]More of your girls get recruited to D1 schools? Lets look at the numbers as provided by lax Power.
2015 age group
Maryland 142
Virginia 49
total 191
all of N.Y. 186
Granted the total number of the 2 combined states exceeds the total of N.Y. but lets be real we're even if nothing els [/quote]
There you go using Convenient stats, wasn't talking about all of NY, talking Long Island. Take upstate NY out of that number and it's closer to 80 girls from Long Island. Most of the upstate teams are smart enough to not go to the U15, but rather play in front of college coaches. Ha, even the upstate parents are smarter than you guys. [/quote]Actually, it's 102 gels from L.I. alone thats 53 more than the whole state of Virginia, and only 40 less than that incredible "hot Bed" known as the entire state of MARYland, and we're about half your size and population with no major city. Looks tike the true hot bed is with the Lawn guy landers [/quote]

Here we go again with not letting facts get in the way of truth. The population of LI is 8 million. The population of MD is 6 million. As far as LI having no major cities, that probably helps LI's numbers since it is suburbs. Being that lax is a upper-middle class, white dominated sport, I'm not sure the inner city kids of Baltimore add much to the recruiting numbers.

Nobody takes that tournament seriously. The field of teams is a joke. YJ just goes so that they can say they pummeled a bunch of terrible teams.

We don't have to…..LOL More of our girls get recruited to Div. 1 programs because we are the hotbed for lacrosse. Isn't that the goal of the club lacrosse scene, to get recruited. Yet your director chose to ignore a major recruiting event how many of your girls missed out???? They could of been seen, but your director took you guys to Colorado, with few college coaches. You have good players but more of our girls play college lacrosse at a higher level than yours does. The only reason you traveled to Colorado was so your director could win and use it as a marketing tool o bring more girls into her program. You New Yorkers are notoriously Fair Weather fans, parents are probably flocking to her tryouts since she won, "Gold, Silver and Bronze" with out playing a mid-atlantic team. Joke
[/quote]More of your girls get recruited to D1 schools? Lets look at the numbers as provided by lax Power.
2015 age group
Maryland 142
Virginia 49
total 191
all of N.Y. 186
Granted the total number of the 2 combined states exceeds the total of N.Y. but lets be real we're even if nothing els [/quote]
There you go using Convenient stats, wasn't talking about all of NY, talking Long Island. Take upstate NY out of that number and it's closer to 80 girls from Long Island. Most of the upstate teams are smart enough to not go to the U15, but rather play in front of college coaches. Ha, even the upstate parents are smarter than you guys. [/quote]Actually, it's 102 gels from L.I. alone thats 53 more than the whole state of Virginia, and only 40 less than that incredible "hot Bed" known as the entire state of MARYland, and we're about half your size and population with no major city. Looks tike the true hot bed is with the Lawn guy landers [/quote]

Here we go again with not letting facts get in the way of truth. The population of LI is 8 million. The population of MD is 6 million. As far as LI having no major cities, that probably helps LI's numbers since it is suburbs. Being that lax is a upper-middle class, white dominated sport, I'm not sure the inner city kids of Baltimore add much to the recruiting numbers. [/quote]

The population of LI (Nassau and Suffolk Counties) is approximately 2.9 million. That is what most people consider LI. Now if you expand that to include the NYC boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn, which are technically on LI, then yes, the population is approximately 8 million. With that said, there are very few lacrosse players that come out of Queens, and they do not even know what a lacrosse stick is in Brooklyn.

[/quote]Here we go again with not letting facts get in the way of truth. The population of LI is 8 million. The population of MD is 6 million. As far as LI having no major cities, that probably helps LI's numbers since it is suburbs. Being that lax is a upper-middle class, white dominated sport, I'm not sure the inner city kids of Baltimore add much to the recruiting numbers.[/quote] Long Island is considered Nassau and Suffolk counties only, Queens and Brooklyn are a part of new [lacrosse] City, so seeing as you keep using the phrase "here we go not letting fact get in the way of the truth", let us not forget the fact that you stated not only Maryland, but also Virginia as a part of you hotbed of lacrosse. So lets not let the facts escape use will use your extensive knowledge of the N.Y metropolitan area as facts and use 8 million as a reference for us, and your 6 million for you, but then we must also add another 7.5 million for Virginia seeing as you chose to add them in, giving us a total of 13.5 million people. If I am not mistaken thats pretty close to double the size. Continuing to use your "logic" (if you want to call it that?) we get to erase about 5 million from that because Queens and Brooklyn are inner city areas and don't add much to the recruiting numbers (none actually, not one single recruit). To be fair you said Baltimore shouldn't count so lets get rid of those numbers (622,000) and we get around 12.8 million people for you and 3 million for us. So let me apologize, I stand corrected, it's not double, your hotbed has 4x as many people while only producing a whopping 89 more recruits. Looks pretty sad for you. but lets not let the facts get in the way of your little fantasy.

Here we go again with not letting facts get in the way of truth. The population of LI is 8 million. The population of MD is 6 million. As far as LI having no major cities, that probably helps LI's numbers since it is suburbs. Being that lax is a upper-middle class, white dominated sport, I'm not sure the inner city kids of Baltimore add much to the recruiting numbers.[/quote] Long Island is considered Nassau and Suffolk counties only, Queens and Brooklyn are a part of new [lacrosse] City, so seeing as you keep using the phrase "here we go not letting fact get in the way of the truth", let us not forget the fact that you stated not only Maryland, but also Virginia as a part of you hotbed of lacrosse. So lets not let the facts escape use will use your extensive knowledge of the N.Y metropolitan area as facts and use 8 million as a reference for us, and your 6 million for you, but then we must also add another 7.5 million for Virginia seeing as you chose to add them in, giving us a total of 13.5 million people. If I am not mistaken thats pretty close to double the size. Continuing to use your "logic" (if you want to call it that?) we get to erase about 5 million from that because Queens and Brooklyn are inner city areas and don't add much to the recruiting numbers (none actually, not one single recruit). To be fair you said Baltimore shouldn't count so lets get rid of those numbers (622,000) and we get around 12.8 million people for you and 3 million for us. So let me apologize, I stand corrected, it's not double, your hotbed has 4x as many people while only producing a whopping 89 more recruits. Looks pretty sad for you. but lets not let the facts get in the way of your little fantasy. [/quote]

Would you two get a grip. No one cares. Maybe you can get your own forum and bore the living [lacrosse] out of each other with more completely useless statistics.

would you rather have that stunning conversation about how many times Jones beat Curico, that riveting conversation about how many time Y.J. can beat T.G. in an alternate universe, if only those scardy cats would attend you appointed better tournaments and stop fiddling with the schedule. Or please tell us again how every girl on every Y.J. team on every age group is so vastly superior to every other club in the entire galaxy because only the elite 800 play there. I just can't wait to hear how another Yellow Jacket committed to Stony Brook. At least this argument is based on some facts and not some opinion from some out of shape, middle aged house frau, that probably never even saw a lacrosse stick until little sally brought one home, perceives her daughter because she is some where between 80 and 100 on the yellow jacket depth chart.

Yawn.

Stony Brook is a great program so not sure what your point is there. Another YJ 2017 just committed to Penn State. That's 10 from the 2017s and they're all going to great schools.

Are you this stupid , TG has more going to Hofstra which is sub par academically, sub par womens lacrosse , sub par coaching all in lovely Hempstead( okay lovely Uniondale). You have 1 age group that has been better than YJ and that is now imploding , the coach left because he no longer wanted to deal w the white trash parents and he did not want his kid to go to Hofstra.

Penn State is a great school?

Blah blah blah and your daughter is still a TG reject!

Yes, it's a very good school (#37 ranked university by US News, just behind Case Western and ahead of BU and Lehigh). Also, has a very good undergraduate business program. I hope that answers your question.

YJ Nation, let it go, these haters do not get and are not worth your time!!!

What is the salary for a women's college coach?

Ranked #37 US News and world report, top 10 among publics. Guess it all depends on where your cutoff is for great. A very good school regardless, solid lacrosse program as well.

Ok Roy

Wow. That is very, very good. Had no idea that penn state was rated that high academically. Read your post, looked it up, and was surprised. This might be a first on this board, My apologies, I was wrong and spoke out of turn.

Yes

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandr...a-state-university--university-park-6965
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704358904575477643369663352&sa=U&ei=2fgKVOWfJLSTsQSyhICoDw&ved=0CBQQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEJWTYXI4T-Cc6GjNVNhMHwSd2ogA
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://news.smeal.psu.edu/news-release-archives/2010/september-2010/penn-state-no.-1-among-recruiters-wall-street-journal-finds&sa=U&ei=L_kKVIrvObLgsATJqoDgBQ&ved=0CCUQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNE6Itc9CxOwpCOobKIp77bMtc6Feg

$40 - $75k for most. CR is probably the highest paid women's lacrosse coach in the country!

Big Elite programs are in low 6 figures.

Most public colleges have to publish their salaries. Lacrosse and Soccer don't pay great that's why they do all the camps and clinics so they can subsidize their salary using college facilities. Spallina at Stony Brook is at 108k with a top 10 program. This is why they all have their fingers in clubs, camps and clinics. Go to seethroughNY to see all state county town and school salaries

Sorry you must have me confused with the Hofstra recruits. You know why Hofstra not very good , YJ won't go there and TG not very good.

Albany D1 is at $80k
Oneonta top 25 D3 is $42

And asst / associate head coaches get about $3-6 thousand

Be careful of how to rate a large school like Penn St. If you check a bit deeper into the US News report its admissions is rated as "Selective" as opposed to "More Selective" and "Most Selective". So you don't need great grades to get in. That is supported by its 54% acceptance rate which also is not great. 65% graduate which isn't bad but not great.

So why does US News rank it as high as 37? When you have 40,000 enrollment you can treat 10% of your student body very well--those folks who don't care about football, drinking, etc. Do they have a good business school? Sure. But not all 40,000 have access.

Someone mentioned Bucknell, which is #32. They have 3,500 students, more selective, 27% acceptance and 85% graduation. I'll throw a completely different look with Amherst College, #2 national Liberal Arts, 1,800 enrolled, most selective, 13% acceptance, 86% graduation. For fun, I'll pick another PA school that is private, Villanova. #1 Regional University, 7,100 enrolled, more selective, 45% acceptance, 85% graduation.

Also remember US News segments its list to National University, Regional University and National Liberal Arts. Forbes throws them all in one basket, where Penn St is #166. According to Forbes it's Williams, Stanford, Swarthmore 1-2-3. They base their poll on cost of education vs earning potential of graduates.

In the end, as I tell all folks I counsel, you have to pick the right school that fits your child.

Looks like there may be trouble in 2020 YJ paradise . Curcio/Jones teams are being blown up for a new daddy coach coming over from another program F&F are not going to be happy!!

looks like YJ 2020 should have went to Legacy with that coach....let the TG 2020 come over....dynamics will be a mess...have fun on the sidelines....Legacy may not be as strong...but will be coached at a higher level...those girls will develop and coach will not put up with the parent drama and the kids will play together....

"school that fits your child" might be the most intelligent quote ever posted on this site bar none. Thank you.
Many of these internet trolls throwing out all these rankings and about this school and that school, its nauseating. Don't they realize it's mostly BS used to sell magazines and direct internet traffic to certain websites? All these people all wrapped up in this nonsense. Recently read an article in the WSJ, written by an Ivy educated former Ivy professor. He has written a book debunking all these myths about the alleged perceived value of these "highly ranked" schools. In the end, the actual value is far less than one would think. Here's some anecdotal evidence for you. Know a girl that went Notre Dame, non-athlete, nearly $62k a year now. Very highly rated school. Surely for some on here not high enough, but high nonetheless. Parents made just enough money not to receive a nickel in aid. When all said and done, well over a $250,000 investment in their daughter. Those people had to earn nearly $500,000 after their tax burden to come up with the net $250k. Two and half years into college she decides she wants to be a teacher. She graduates and gets a teaching position at a beautiful catholic school. Maybe making $40k. A girl that got hired along with her, graduated from Cortland and went to SUNY Farmingdale for two years prior to attending Cortland. Her parents total investment all in, was nearly $50k. Please, I have got to hear the justification for dropping the other $200,000 for the superior ranking. Let's hope the folks who had to earn an additional $400,000 in pre tax money, to achieve the same result as the SUNY kid, found the value in having that Notre Dame sticker on the back of their ten year old mini van...

Please...... not the guy from West Hampton !

Please.... Not the guy for West Hampton!

Yellow Jackets = thug ball

Why would any top YJ go to Legacy, I get a 4-5 th team kid going and hoping to make the team but a kid on the top two YJ teams it would make no sense. Regardless of all the haters Curcio ,Jones are excellent coaches and you still have YJ connections and reputation. Legacy has 0 reputation , 0 connections and is an unknown at this point.

So funny , a couple TG top players want to come over to YJ and you make it sound like YJ has the issues. Blown up, thats funny. At this age you should expect 4-5 kids get moved to and from the top team or something is not right. As far as a new assistant coach coming over , if he or she is any good and adds something to the team then that would be great. That being said Curcio and Jones will still be the head coaches and it will still be their teams. The pathetic thing is you morons keep harping on your F&F stuff and CR keeps proving you wrong.

You again? Get a life.

yeah right ,,,, his daughter one and only

Have you wanted YJ players? They are headhunters and play dirty.

As my coach said, just win baby!!! By the way, they are not dirty...

CR is by far the highest paid lacrosse coach in the country

Technically not even close. She is paid by Northport probably about 5k/yr to coach. She does make alot of money as a business owner though.

Technically she would be the highest grossing lacrosse coach then (in more ways than one..lol)

Your guessing. Wonder what Amonte rakes in? Massive over priced camps around the nation, Chicago based clubs and tournament series, book sales, video series, corporate sponsors, the most popular lax heads ever made named after her. Not so sure your guess is even close.