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I would not say 2016 black was better than Blue. However only played once this year and black came out on top

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The fall tournaments are a great indicator of where your child will be placed next summer. The blue kids that are playing on the mixed teams will be dropped or are on the bubble.


Completely false


100% true


They are mixed teams because not every one signs up for fall tournaments. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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TG black vs Yj blue YJ 3 ages better, TG 3 ages better, seems like both clubs are awful close to each other. These 2 clubs are the cream of the crop. Maryland eat your heart out..

2015 age YJ
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Add 2021 age YJ and you break your hypothetical tie...

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TG black vs Yj blue YJ 3 ages better, TG 3 ages better, seems like both clubs are awful close to each other. These 2 clubs are the cream of the crop. Maryland eat your heart out..

2015 age YJ
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2020 age TG

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Add 2021 age YJ and you break your hypothetical tie...


As an outsider to both clubs but looking for a place for my daughter to tryout for next summer I am trying to understand. One club is an elite year round program who claims to only take the best but actually takes everyone and has year round coaches that are far superior to the 8-10 practice part time summer Top Gun program with terrible coaches that sleep and eat during games. Using both dramatically different models, the programs are basically tied in top team performance? The only difference is one program has 6 zeros in their checking account and one has 7.

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TG black vs Yj blue YJ 3 ages better, TG 3 ages better, seems like both clubs are awful close to each other. These 2 clubs are the cream of the crop. Maryland eat your heart out..

2015 age YJ
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2017 age YJ
2018 age YJ
2019 age TG
2020 age TG

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I think you have it right on! The only thing I would add is that the years that YJ are better ,they are way better and the years the TG are better, it is close.

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TG black vs Yj blue YJ 3 ages better, TG 3 ages better, seems like both clubs are awful close to each other. These 2 clubs are the cream of the crop. Maryland eat your heart out..

2015 age YJ
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2017 age YJ
2018 age YJ
2019 age TG
2020 age TG

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Its tuff to be civil when you are so lopsided. 2016 YJ has beaten TG 6 of seven times they have played and have beaten them in every championship tournament they have been in together. YJ 2016 blue has won the last 8 championship tournaments they have played in beating MD several times(Something TG has never done), sky walkers, heroes, md united, steps, TG etc. YJ has won national draw the last two years beating TG in the semis and knocking them out in pool play the other time. The one game TG won was at a showcase tournament when YJ was playing w a mixed team as the high school playoffs were still being played and they were missing multiple players. Those are the facts so please try to explain how any objective person could believe its even close.

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That may be true but fall tournaments are great recruiting days.


for 5th graders?


Of course not. I'm speaking of fall tournaments from 9th (maybe 8th?) grade on.

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TG black vs Yj blue YJ 3 ages better, TG 3 ages better, seems like both clubs are awful close to each other. These 2 clubs are the cream of the crop. Maryland eat your heart out..

2015 age YJ
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I'm not quite sure how Maryland got drawn into this, considering M&D and Skywalkers have better teams then both LI clubs at nearly all of those age groups.

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TG black vs Yj blue YJ 3 ages better, TG 3 ages better, seems like both clubs are awful close to each other. These 2 clubs are the cream of the crop. Maryland eat your heart out..

2015 age YJ
2016 age TG
2017 age YJ
2018 age YJ
2019 age TG
2020 age TG

Please leave your feedback and keep it clean. be civil.


I'm not quite sure how Maryland got drawn into this, considering M&D and Skywalkers have better teams then both LI clubs at nearly all of those age groups.

long island vs Maryland

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TG black vs Yj blue YJ 3 ages better, TG 3 ages better, seems like both clubs are awful close to each other. These 2 clubs are the cream of the crop. Maryland eat your heart out..

2015 age YJ
2016 age TG
2017 age YJ
2018 age YJ
2019 age TG
2020 age TG

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2015 YJ not close
2016 YJ not close
2017 YJ not close
2018 YJ close but clearly YJ
2019 YJ debateable as they have never played but YJ has beaten MD while TG never has
2020 TG not debateable

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TG black vs Yj blue YJ 3 ages better, TG 3 ages better, seems like both clubs are awful close to each other. These 2 clubs are the cream of the crop. Maryland eat your heart out..

2015 age YJ
2016 age TG
2017 age YJ
2018 age YJ
2019 age TG
2020 age TG

Please leave your feedback and keep it clean. be civil.


I'm not quite sure how Maryland got drawn into this, considering M&D and Skywalkers have better teams then both LI clubs at nearly all of those age groups.

long island vs Maryland

2015 MD
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2017 LI
2018 MD
2019 MD
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2021 MD
So 4 of 7 age groups for MD. Net exactly eating our hearts out. Plus with 2020 TG coach leaving, not sure LI will own that division this year. M&D 2020 only lost that one game all year last year.

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Would like honest opinions of those who have paid for the YJ recruiting service? Was it worth it? Could you have done it alone? How often was communication? Was is more effective for YJ girls than non YJ girls? Thank you

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As an outsider to both clubs but looking for a place for my daughter to tryout for next summer I am trying to understand. One club is an elite year round program who claims to only take the best but actually takes everyone and has year round coaches that are far superior to the 8-10 practice part time summer Top Gun program with terrible coaches that sleep and eat during games. Using both dramatically different models, the programs are basically tied in top team performance? The only difference is one program has 6 zeros in their checking account and one has 7. [/quote]

Seems TG can do more with less which then comes back to its all about the kids who join. The top kids will be top kids regardless of who coaches them!

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The blue kids will be placed together for each fall tournament and the second team if entered will be gold plus bubble blue players. You don't have to believe it but its true.

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The blue kids will be placed together for each fall tournament and the second team if entered will be gold plus bubble blue players. You don't have to believe it but its true.


And YJ teams 3 thru 8 in all age groups get nothing. Ohhh well they get the same invoice as everyone else.

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The blue kids will be placed together for each fall tournament and the second team if entered will be gold plus bubble blue players. You don't have to believe it but its true.


And YJ teams 3 thru 8 in all age groups get nothing. Ohhh well they get the same invoice as everyone else.


No they will get the $1,000 scholarship to Mercy

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The blue kids will be placed together for each fall tournament and the second team if entered will be gold plus bubble blue players. You don't have to believe it but its true.


And YJ teams 3 thru 8 in all age groups get nothing. Ohhh well they get the same invoice as everyone else.


The funny thing is the 3rd YJ team at U15 outplayed your horrible TG team, and have seen more interest in YJ 2016 third team than your TG purple 2016.

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As an outsider to both clubs but looking for a place for my daughter to tryout for next summer I am trying to understand. One club is an elite year round program who claims to only take the best but actually takes everyone and has year round coaches that are far superior to the 8-10 practice part time summer Top Gun program with terrible coaches that sleep and eat during games. Using both dramatically different models, the programs are basically tied in top team performance? The only difference is one program has 6 zeros in their checking account and one has 7.


Seems TG can do more with less which then comes back to its all about the kids who join. The top kids will be top kids regardless of who coaches them! [/quote]
My daughter has played for TG for the past 2 year, I have never seen any of her or any coaches eat or sleep during games, nor have I heard any other parents mention that on other TG teams. Stop being so negative.

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The blue kids will be placed together for each fall tournament and the second team if entered will be gold plus bubble blue players. You don't have to believe it but its true.


And YJ teams 3 thru 8 in all age groups get nothing. Ohhh well they get the same invoice as everyone else.


The funny thing is the 3rd YJ team at U15 outplayed your horrible TG team, and have seen more interest in YJ 2016 third team than your TG purple 2016.


Why are you so insecure? Why do you consistently call the YJ 2017 2nd blue team your 3rd team? Your 3rd team was not in Denver as I have a friend who plays on the 3rd team. This is probably the 4th or 5th time I have seen you play down your 2nd team at that age level just to say the U15TG team lost to your "3rd" team. If you were there then you would know that it was not a blowout, that TG was winning with about 7 minutes left, that there were many controversial calls with one including a question with the clock at halftime with a penalty and the time keeper happened to be affiliated with YJ, that the last call before TG possession change at end of game should have been at the minimum an obstruction by the goalie besides the fact she was being tomahawked all the way in to the goal (which was scored BTW) and that YJ stalled with at least 5 minutes left in the game. YJ won yes, but they are a solid 2017 team. Stop putting them down as it insults your own organization. No one has ever challenged that they beat the mixed 2017/2018 TG team, but stop referring to them as the "3rd"team as they clearly are not moron!

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The blue kids will be placed together for each fall tournament and the second team if entered will be gold plus bubble blue players. You don't have to believe it but its true.


And YJ teams 3 thru 8 in all age groups get nothing. Ohhh well they get the same invoice as everyone else.


The funny thing is the 3rd YJ team at U15 outplayed your horrible TG team, and have seen more interest in YJ 2016 third team than your TG purple 2016.


Why are you so insecure? Why do you consistently call the YJ 2017 2nd blue team your 3rd team? Your 3rd team was not in Denver as I have a friend who plays on the 3rd team. This is probably the 4th or 5th time I have seen you play down your 2nd team at that age level just to say the U15TG team lost to your "3rd" team. If you were there then you would know that it was not a blowout, that TG was winning with about 7 minutes left, that there were many controversial calls with one including a question with the clock at halftime with a penalty and the time keeper happened to be affiliated with YJ, that the last call before TG possession change at end of game should have been at the minimum an obstruction by the goalie besides the fact she was being tomahawked all the way in to the goal (which was scored BTW) and that YJ stalled with at least 5 minutes left in the game. YJ won yes, but they are a solid 2017 team. Stop putting them down as it insults your own organization. No one has ever challenged that they beat the mixed 2017/2018 TG team, but stop referring to them as the "3rd"team as they clearly are not moron!


Not even sure where to begin. First you sound like a complete puss when you make up excuses for your loss. Second stalling is part of the game your coach is famous for it so you now seem to be ignorant as well. Third the YJ team you lost to was the third best YJ U15 team there, they took third and have lost to both the other YJ teams.Fourth it was in response to your toolbag tg friends saying if you are not on top two teams in YJ the team stinks when in fact they beat your useless tg team.

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The blue kids will be placed together for each fall tournament and the second team if entered will be gold plus bubble blue players. You don't have to believe it but its true.


And YJ teams 3 thru 8 in all age groups get nothing. Ohhh well they get the same invoice as everyone else.


The funny thing is the 3rd YJ team at U15 outplayed your horrible TG team, and have seen more interest in YJ 2016 third team than your TG purple 2016.


Why are you so insecure? Why do you consistently call the YJ 2017 2nd blue team your 3rd team? Your 3rd team was not in Denver as I have a friend who plays on the 3rd team. This is probably the 4th or 5th time I have seen you play down your 2nd team at that age level just to say the U15TG team lost to your "3rd" team. If you were there then you would know that it was not a blowout, that TG was winning with about 7 minutes left, that there were many controversial calls with one including a question with the clock at halftime with a penalty and the time keeper happened to be affiliated with YJ, that the last call before TG possession change at end of game should have been at the minimum an obstruction by the goalie besides the fact she was being tomahawked all the way in to the goal (which was scored BTW) and that YJ stalled with at least 5 minutes left in the game. YJ won yes, but they are a solid 2017 team. Stop putting them down as it insults your own organization. No one has ever challenged that they beat the mixed 2017/2018 TG team, but stop referring to them as the "3rd"team as they clearly are not moron!


Not even sure where to begin. First you sound like a complete puss when you make up excuses for your loss. Second stalling is part of the game your coach is famous for it so you now seem to be ignorant as well. Third the YJ team you lost to was the third best YJ U15 team there, they took third and have lost to both the other YJ teams.Fourth it was in response to your toolbag tg friends saying if you are not on top two teams in YJ the team stinks when in fact they beat your useless tg team.
This guys an [lacrosse], and is why every other club in the country hates the Y.J. parents

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The blue kids will be placed together for each fall tournament and the second team if entered will be gold plus bubble blue players. You don't have to believe it but its true.


And YJ teams 3 thru 8 in all age groups get nothing. Ohhh well they get the same invoice as everyone else.


The funny thing is the 3rd YJ team at U15 outplayed your horrible TG team, and have seen more interest in YJ 2016 third team than your TG purple 2016.


Why are you so insecure? Why do you consistently call the YJ 2017 2nd blue team your 3rd team? Your 3rd team was not in Denver as I have a friend who plays on the 3rd team. This is probably the 4th or 5th time I have seen you play down your 2nd team at that age level just to say the U15TG team lost to your "3rd" team. If you were there then you would know that it was not a blowout, that TG was winning with about 7 minutes left, that there were many controversial calls with one including a question with the clock at halftime with a penalty and the time keeper happened to be affiliated with YJ, that the last call before TG possession change at end of game should have been at the minimum an obstruction by the goalie besides the fact she was being tomahawked all the way in to the goal (which was scored BTW) and that YJ stalled with at least 5 minutes left in the game. YJ won yes, but they are a solid 2017 team. Stop putting them down as it insults your own organization. No one has ever challenged that they beat the mixed 2017/2018 TG team, but stop referring to them as the "3rd"team as they clearly are not moron!


Not even sure where to begin. First you sound like a complete puss when you make up excuses for your loss. Second stalling is part of the game your coach is famous for it so you now seem to be ignorant as well. Third the YJ team you lost to was the third best YJ U15 team there, they took third and have lost to both the other YJ teams.Fourth it was in response to your toolbag tg friends saying if you are not on top two teams in YJ the team stinks when in fact they beat your useless tg team.
This guys an [lacrosse], and is why every other club in the country hates the Y.J. parents


No excuses, post stated that YJ team is a solid team that won. Just stating some facts. It is sad to see how degrading you are to teams in your own organization.

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"This guys an [lacrosse], and is why every other club in the country hates the Y.J. parents"

Sounds like you are talking about BS, no wonder the best coach in your organization got out, my guess he didnt want to deal with useless losers like you anymore. No go back to your tg area.

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To all girls teams, please do the boys communities a favor and sign the FO petition. Many boys have worked very hard for what they have perfected and we feel like the rules committee got it wrong.

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To all girls teams, please do the boys communities a favor and sign the FO petition. Many boys have worked very hard for what they have perfected and we feel like the rules committee got it wrong.


Go back to the boys forum. Why should the girls sign a petition that has nothing to do with their sport? Did you sign any petitions regarding keeping helmets out of girl's sports?

This makes your petition seem weak if you are asking girls to sign it.

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"No excuses, post stated that YJ team is a solid team that won. Just stating some facts. It is sad to see how degrading you are to teams in your own organization."

You really are dense, no excuses and controversial calls do not fit together and you thinking something is a controversial call does not make it a fact. Why even mention stalling? How is it degrading to say the team that took third was the third best team at the tournament.Actually complementing all YJ teams saying that they are deep and its funny your d-bag TG parents keep trying to rip any YJ team not considered blue when your top team loses to them.

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To all girls teams, please do the boys communities a favor and sign the FO petition. Many boys have worked very hard for what they have perfected and we feel like the rules committee got it wrong.


Go back to the boys forum. Why should the girls sign a petition that has nothing to do with their sport? Did you sign any petitions regarding keeping helmets out of girl's sports?

This makes your petition seem weak if you are asking girls to sign it.


Yes, you are an a$$.

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Why do yj rarely send girls to Ivys???

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Why do yj rarely send girls to Ivys???


Because they would rather send a kid who is Ivy eligible to Florida so they can brag about that kid playing in the Final Four.

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YJ has a 2018 commit to Florida!! Awesome
YJ clearly leads the way in recruiting. Heard many if 2018 already have visits set up. Next up 2018

As for IVY takes to long and they may as well take money to ND, Duke
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[quote=Anonymous]YJ has a 2018 commit to Florida!! Awesome
YJ clearly leads the way in recruiting. Heard many if 2018 already have visits set up. Next up 2018

While thats sounds great.. how can any college coach seriously recruit a kid who hasn't taken 1 class in high school?
I'm sure she can play but can the kid read and write?

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Why do yj rarely send girls to Ivys???


Because they would rather send a kid who is Ivy eligible to Florida so they can brag about that kid playing in the Final Four.


What a [lacrosse] you are. What club sends more to ivy? That being said there are many factors, Ivy League traditionally recruits later, no money available for athletics, obviously very expensive and most households on LI will not qualify for much aid. A strong argument can be made that going to UVA, Duke, UNC, Stanford, Hopkins, ND etc. makes a lot more sense when you leave school with 150000 in less debt. You bring up Florida as if its some horrible education when in fact it is not .

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Graduating from unc with one of the soft majors levy let's her players take is not and will never be the same as a degree from hypp. Ditto for any other school that strongly encourages their players to only major in soft majors. Check out the engineers at Hopkins, there's one. It's not just the school it's the degree. Penn and Princeton are consistently top programs often much stronger than duke ND and Hopkins. Is it the early recruiting rose basis her program on that discourages many qualified girls from ivies?
Just a thought!!!

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Some families see lacrosse as an advantage in obtaining admission to Ivy league schools. Girls recruited to Duke, Notre Dame and ACC schools etc may choose an Ivy wanting to be competitive but not entirely focused on winning a Final Four. Although lacrosse is a big part of the lives of these young girls, they may not want it to be the major component of their college life. You have to find a balance of what works for you. To assume the girls who choose Ivies, Stanford as well as top academic DIII schools like Amherst and Williams were not being recruited to the big lacrosse schools is naive. This seems to be the trend amongst districts like Garden City, Manhasset and Cold Spring Harbor. I am sure girls from these schools play spead out on several of the Lacrosse clubs on Long Island like Yellow Jackets, Top Gun and Liberty. The web sites for all of these clubs show girls attending various colleges to play lacrosse. Liberty seems to have a large percentage of Ivy League attendees and commits.

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what club sends more to Ivy's? Liberty

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Some families see lacrosse as an advantage in obtaining admission to Ivy league schools. Girls recruited to Duke, Notre Dame and ACC schools etc may choose an Ivy wanting to be competitive but not entirely focused on winning a Final Four. Although lacrosse is a big part of the lives of these young girls, they may not want it to be the major component of their college life. You have to find a balance of what works for you. To assume the girls who choose Ivies, Stanford as well as top academic DIII schools like Amherst and Williams were not being recruited to the big lacrosse schools is naive. This seems to be the trend amongst districts like Garden City, Manhasset and Cold Spring Harbor. I am sure girls from these schools play spead out on several of the Lacrosse clubs on Long Island like Yellow Jackets, Top Gun and Liberty. The web sites for all of these clubs show girls attending various colleges to play lacrosse. Liberty seems to have a large percentage of Ivy League attendees and commits.


The beauty of Non Ivy is they can get most anybody in just look at the press conferences from some of the other sports at these big schools you mention. They have trouble putting a sentance together. Thats why they can commit to a 8th or 9th grader who havent even taken the PSAT. The big clubs want to put you up on their website as soon as they can because it gives them a competitive advantage

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what club sends more to Ivy's? Liberty


Are you really this pathetic, Liberty is not really a travel club it's a Manhasset high school supplement and yes Manhasset sends a lot of kids to Ivy League schools. Why do you think that is?

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YJ has a 2018 commit to Florida!! Awesome
YJ clearly leads the way in recruiting. Heard many if 2018 already have visits set up. Next up 2018

As for IVY takes to long and they may as well take money to ND, Duke
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Ivy's have the by far the largest endowments in the country and are in fact the cheapest schools to go to, unless you're very wealthy nobody pays the sticker price. The lack of athletic money available means nothing, they have an entire array of sports prgrams for both men and women that are full of athletes gettting academic and or need based money equall to and even surpassing athletic scholarships. The average student at Harvard pays under 20K/year via the giant endowment fund

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YJ has a 2018 commit to Florida!! Awesome
YJ clearly leads the way in recruiting. Heard many if 2018 already have visits set up. Next up 2018

As for IVY takes to long and they may as well take money to ND, Duke
Hopkins and UNC cheaper


Ivy's have the by far the largest endowments in the country and are in fact the cheapest schools to go to, unless you're very wealthy nobody pays the sticker price. The lack of athletic money available means nothing, they have an entire array of sports prgrams for both men and women that are full of athletes gettting academic and or need based money equall to and even surpassing athletic scholarships. The average student at Harvard pays under 20K/year via the giant endowment fund


You are completely wrong, I am by no measurement very well off by Long Island standards, my son goes to Princeton and qualifies for exactly nothing in terms of aide. My kid always dreamed of going Ivy and we were fine with that and am very proud of him. That being said you can get a degree at Ivy League schools that are not worth the paper they are printed on or you can make connections and get a degree that will open many doors. The person that knocked the players at UNC is also way off base , their are valedictorians from Long Island who were denied at UNC and the degree a kid gets is up to them . As far as coach Levy allowing them to take classes you are just wrong , they have a couple kids in the honors college( very rigorous) as well as a player who plays both soccer and lacrosse.

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what club sends more to Ivy's? Liberty


Are you really this pathetic, Liberty is not really a travel club it's a Manhasset high school supplement and yes Manhasset sends a lot of kids to Ivy League schools. Why do you think that is?
because there as smart as you are jealous.

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