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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?

Well said except SL promotes the team concept is one of the funniest things I have ever heard. TG 2020 played team concept in blowout games only otherwise it was all thru one kid. East Islip the offense has been run thru 1 kid for years and this year will be no different. 2015 TG slightly different , all offense run thru 2 kids. Not saying he does it out of anything other than necessity but team concept is laughable.

One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.

This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.

Didn't M&D get tested by Crossfire this weekend, a team comprised of 2 towns and a few friends this weekend. I would be careful before I put them in the untouchable category.

Don't know what you are talking about. This weekend M&D Beat TLC Red 10-4, YJ(Whatever it was they sent down) 8-3, Heros Green 11-2 and TLC White 16-1

That crossfire team is not any sort of representation of YJ's best. It is true it has a few of the blue players, but also has some gold team players that are even on the bottom end of that team (mainly baggage but their crazy dads pressured so much the coach couldn't say no).

Don't know what you are talking about. This weekend M&D Beat TLC Red 10-4, YJ(Whatever it was they sent down) 8-3, Heros Green 11-2 and TLC White 16-1

That crossfire team is not any sort of representation of YJ's best. It is true it has a few of the blue players, but also has some gold team players that are even on the bottom end of that team (mainly baggage but their crazy dads pressured so much the coach couldn't say no).

8-3? What game were you watching? I watched a 6-4 game, congrats on that.

In these situations, somebody's daughter is ALWAYS not asked to play.

"Sorry fellow team member that is 18th or 19th on the roster, you cannot play with the Yello....errr....Team Crossfire this week because this is "just a couple towns and some friends."

That's the way they roll.

In these situations, somebody's daughter is ALWAYS not asked to play.

"Sorry fellow team member that is 18th or 19th on the roster, you cannot play with the Yello....errr....Team Crossfire this week because this is "just a couple towns and some friends."

That's the way they roll.

At 2020, first came lady rebels, some people felt left out, got off their asses and started green machine. At 2021, first came crossefire, some people felt left out.... you get the picture.

Just reading this thread and wanted to say this...I did not see anybody say M&D was untouchable or anything close to that.

Any of these teams can, and all of them will be defeated at some point. However, that does not mean that what the prior poster stated is not true...maybe that team does have a lot of good players and maybe they are good on both ends of the field.

And as far as that goes, Yellow Jackets is well known for bringing teams to Maryland that conveniently leave behind some of the lesser players and then claiming they did not have their full team. In some cases---not saying that was the case here---they brought only who they wanted to bring and left some of the other kids home on purpose.

I have absolutely seen this in the older age groups. So, just like M&D is not untouchable (and I am SURE they are not) I also know that "two towns and some friends" can have a whole range of meanings.

The fact that you seem to express enthusiasm over somebody losing by only 5 3 or 4 goals in a short game tells me that M&D must be a pretty solid squad, even if not untouchable.

Crossfire has been playing together long before this past weekend...no clue why they played under YJ but it's the same girls for wuite some time.

Nobody anointed a best team. Just talking about the top teams. Nothing...and I mean NOTHING...is less predictable than the collective efforts of 11 and 12 year old girls.

However, there are enough games that have been played in the last 6 months to start talking about what teams seem to playing the best. M&D and Yellow Jackets are the usual suspects. I think the discussion was intended to be, what makes those two teams so strong. One person said draw control for M&D.

Just curious what other attributes M&D and Yellow Jackets possess at 2021 that make them good teams? And by all means, if there is another team anybody wants to talk about, let's do it.

I have not seen M&D...that's why I asked the question. I know one thing, it is pretty inspiring to watch any of these top teams at this age group and see kids that age playing at a high level.

And this is nothing new. Inside the Yellow Jackets thread on this site there was a blow up about 2 years ago when the 2016 team pulled the same stunt at another Maryland Tournament...I just re-read it...they team was called Team Misc.

It was comprised of the top players on the 16 teams ("a couple towns and some friends") and was designed to let the "elite" show their stuff without the bottom feeders dragging them down.

I believe there are other instances as well but I lost my patience going through the thread looking for them.

Here's the thing...have you EVER heard of any other club doing this? EVER? Does wonders for team unity and those 11-12 year old girls a/k/a "teammates" that were not invited.

But again, that is indeed how they roll.

Sad part is they also ruined some other 2021's experience that are not "crossfire" girls, experiences displacing them and making them push up and play with an older team that ignored them at the tournament. No wonder they don't want to pass to certain girls during the season. The resent each other.

Disloyalty? Selfishness? displacing?

Crossfire is two towns that didn't have enough kids to create their own travel team a few years back so they got together and added a few kids from nearby towns to fill out a roster. The team has YJ, TG, BB and Blue Devils players on it. It's intent was to give the girls an opportunity to play in tournaments that their teams weren't entered in or, in the case of last weekend, not enough players were entered.
If anyone was watching the YJ rosters when registration for the event was closed there were only 7 2021s registered and they were added into the 2020 teams. There was no 2021 team registered. The CF coaches contact YJ, ask to pull the 4 CF kids off the YJ 2020 rosters and bring the rest of their team down.
No displacement, there was never a YJ 2021 registered. No disloyalty, if there was a full team the girls would have played for their YJ teams. No selfishness, if your kid lived in their school districts they would have been on the team.
No drama, definitely not a showcase team, just a bunch of kids that play in local tournaments outside of their travel programs when they can. This was their first trip off the island.
M&D has a very good team but give CF some credit, they were down 4 to 0, came back and road 4 to 3 into the final few minutes of play.

Disloyalty? Selfishness? displacing?

Crossfire is two towns that didn't have enough kids to create their own travel team a few years back so they got together and added a few kids from nearby towns to fill out a roster. The team has YJ, TG, BB and Blue Devils players on it. It's intent was to give the girls an opportunity to play in tournaments that their teams weren't entered in or, in the case of last weekend, not enough players were entered.
If anyone was watching the YJ rosters when registration for the event was closed there were only 7 2021s registered and they were added into the 2020 teams. There was no 2021 team registered. The CF coaches contact YJ, ask to pull the 4 CF kids off the YJ 2020 rosters and bring the rest of their team down.
No displacement, there was never a YJ 2021 registered. No disloyalty, if there was a full team the girls would have played for their YJ teams. No selfishness, if your kid lived in their school districts they would have been on the team.
No drama, definitely not a showcase team, just a bunch of kids that play in local tournaments outside of their travel programs when they can. This was their first trip off the island.
M&D has a very good team but give CF some credit, they were down 4 to 0, came back and road 4 to 3 into the final few minutes of play.

Disloyalty? Selfishness? displacing?

Crossfire is two towns that didn't have enough kids to create their own travel team a few years back so they got together and added a few kids from nearby towns to fill out a roster. The team has YJ, TG, BB and Blue Devils players on it. It's intent was to give the girls an opportunity to play in tournaments that their teams weren't entered in or, in the case of last weekend, not enough players were entered.
If anyone was watching the YJ rosters when registration for the event was closed there were only 7 2021s registered and they were added into the 2020 teams. There was no 2021 team registered. The CF coaches contact YJ, ask to pull the 4 CF kids off the YJ 2020 rosters and bring the rest of their team down.
No displacement, there was never a YJ 2021 registered. No disloyalty, if there was a full team the girls would have played for their YJ teams. No selfishness, if your kid lived in their school districts they would have been on the team.
No drama, definitely not a showcase team, just a bunch of kids that play in local tournaments outside of their travel programs when they can. This was their first trip off the island.
M&D has a very good team but give CF some credit, they were down 4 to 0, came back and road 4 to 3 into the final few minutes of play.

You can twist it however you want. The reality is, it's not a YJ team, not a TG team. Not playing politics and sucking up to CR or SS. Going in under YJ was because a number of the kids had already registered as YJ. No big deception or political plot. Just some kids/parents that are good friends and like to play lacrosse together. It has nothing to do with showing off any one kids abilities. They're just out to have fun as the game was intended.

I am sure it was that innocent. However, who decided on which 2021 YJ got shipped to a 2020 team, CR, Coach M, did he have input? The end result were several current 2021 YJ Blue and Gold players feeling really left out in the 2020 world. Not a nice thing to do to your teammates.

The best played for crossfire. The rest played with 2020, that's it simple. End the conversation.

Are a lot of the best players from the 2 towns Crossfire originates from? Yes
Do all but 2 players that travelled to MD play for them usually ? Yes
Did YJ's not have enough in the 2021 age group to form a team? Yes
Did a lot of girls get to play lax? Yes
Do you play with people other than your normal team when you sign up for any YJ fall tournament? Yes

Do the girls who played up belong on blue? No