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Something about a Bitmore kid whacking one of Millon's players after he was on the ground, Million took exception with the ref's inattentiveness.
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Why was Bitmore playing A and not AA ??? they where all 2021 team with an 2020 kid. Embarrassing trophy chasing.
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Something about a Bitmore kid whacking one of Millon's players after he was on the ground, Million took exception with the ref's inattentiveness. Something about a Bitmore kid whacking one of Millon's players after he was on the ground, Million took exception with the ref's inattentiveness. Can't fault him for that. However, the refs seemed to be better than at beach lax. These refs ran from end to end for the most part. Summer exposure seemed better than beach lax in lot of way - score boards, time keeper, score keepers, end line balls, grass that had been cut in the last week, great tourney machine update - great tourney all around.
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Philadelphia Freedom 2021 did the same thing. 5th grade team playing in 4th grade division. They pulled that 2 years ago when my older son played with Arden and beat us in the finals. This year my younger sons 4 grade team beat them. Embarrassing. Why was Bitmore playing A and not AA ??? they where all 2021 team with an 2020 kid. Embarrassing trophy chasing.
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Lost stick at Summer Exposure today (Sunday) at the 2:40 game on Field 1 at Bell Branch (Tri State vs MLC U13AA). Stick was with equipment near the cement wall on the left side after you enter the park. Silver Tri Cor shaft, light blue end cap, light blue STX Super Power head with black shooting strings. Child that lost the stick is very upset. Please call 410 241 4726 if you happen to have picked it up. Thank you very much.
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Here are the NPYLL vs Hoco games in the Beach Lax Grade Based divisions (all other divisions don't appear to be very well regulated by age or grade level for accurate comparison).
2018 - (FCA-Hoco beat 3 NPYLL teams) Crabs 2018 3 FCA Blue 2018 8 Arden Diamondback 1 FCA Blue 2018 11 Zingos 5 FCA Blue 2018 9 2019 - (Crabs-NPYLL beat FCS-Hoco) Crabs 2019 7 FCA 2019 6
2020 - (4 games - all NPYLL wins - 3 NPYLL teams beat 3 Hoco teams) Breakers 2020 6 FCA Blue 2020 4 Looney's 2020 Orange 4 Annapolis Hawks 2020 5 Crabs 2020 9 FCA Blue 2020 3 MD Roughriders 2020 4 Annapolis Hawks 2020 6
2021 - no NPYLL vs Hoco games.
2018 FCA Blue beat the Hawks as well. 2019 Low & Away from HoCo league beat Crabs. Summer exposure also showed a fairly even level of competition, but NPYLL had the edge over Hoco. Summer Exposure NPYLL vs HOCO results: U11AA - NPYLL 2 wins Hoco 1 win Kooper's Blue 5 6 Annapolis Hawks 2021 Kooper's Blue 4 6 Annapolis Hawks 2021 Kooper's Blue 7 6 Arden Diamondback U13AA - NPYLL 4 wins Hoco 2 wins Lax World 5 4 Fearless Annapolis Hawks 8 4 Rock 2019 Cannons Select 10 7 Rock 2019 Rock 2019 3 6 API Select Rock 2019 8 7 Fearless U13 Annapolis Hawks 11 2 Lax World U15AA - NPYLL 1 win Hoco 0 wins (missing results also) Annapolis Hawks 10 2 Rock
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Well organized, perhaps, but there seems to be way too many reports of teams playing down and roughing up the competition, without any enforcement by Hogan whatsoever.
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Why was Bitmore playing A and not AA ??? they where all 2021 team with an 2020 kid. Embarrassing trophy chasing. Bitmore 2021 team is playing B at green turtle and the rest of the summer looks like many trophies for them. Congrats on playing down and not challenging your kids.
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Why was Bitmore playing A and not AA ??? they where all 2021 team with an 2020 kid. Embarrassing trophy chasing. Bitmore 2021 team is playing B at green turtle and the rest of the summer looks like many trophies for them. Congrats on playing down and not challenging your kids. Until they implement age cutoffs, it could be said that any team with any 5th graders is playing down for trophies.
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Philadelphia Freedom 2021 did the same thing. 5th grade team playing in 4th grade division. They pulled that 2 years ago when my older son played with Arden and beat us in the finals. This year my younger sons 4 grade team beat them. Embarrassing. Why was Bitmore playing A and not AA ??? they where all 2021 team with an 2020 kid. Embarrassing trophy chasing. I think at the time of initial registration there were supposed to be three divisions. AA Solid 5th grade teams A Weak 5th grade teams/Solid 4th grade teams B 4th grade teams. Maybe the freedom and bitmore put themselves in the weak 5th grade category. Considering freedom lost to a 4th grade team and bitmore did not have an outrageous goal differential maybe that is not all that inappropriate
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That's exactly what happened. They tried to convince many of the 2021 teams to move up to the proper bracket but none of them would. Philadelphia Freedom 2021 did the same thing. 5th grade team playing in 4th grade division. They pulled that 2 years ago when my older son played with Arden and beat us in the finals. This year my younger sons 4 grade team beat them. Embarrassing. Why was Bitmore playing A and not AA ??? they where all 2021 team with an 2020 kid. Embarrassing trophy chasing. I think at the time of initial registration there were supposed to be three divisions. AA Solid 5th grade teams A Weak 5th grade teams/Solid 4th grade teams B 4th grade teams. Maybe the freedom and bitmore put themselves in the weak 5th grade category. Considering freedom lost to a 4th grade team and bitmore did not have an outrageous goal differential maybe that is not all that inappropriate
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In U13AA Rock - Hawks is wrong on website. Rock beat Hawks 8 to 4
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I don't know all these teams like most of you probably do, but it looks to me like roughly only 8 of the 48 teams in the U11A division at Summer Exposure were 2022 teams. And looks like only 2 or 3 of the 14 teams in the Greene Turtle U11B division are 2022 teams.
Be nice if these big tourneys had 3 levels per age group: Older and strong, pure younger age, and true B teams or truly weaker (non-trophy hunting) teams. I guess that happens at U13 but not yet at U11. As it is, it is hard to know which division to pick if half your starters are 4th graders and you haven't played this teams before.
PS - The Diamondbacks certainly seems like the strongest 2022 team in the region.
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Happens in U13 too, the Threshers (NY) had a team of mostly 8th graders (2018) playing U13A, several of the kids were as big as the coaches. They rode roughshod over their 6th grade competition and lost to Carolina Cannons in the final. Cannons must be an amazing team or equally large, did not see them.
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Carolina Cannons does the same thing - they enter their teams one level too low
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What a shame that teams can get away win this. I bet those 2018s are not doing this in any tournaments that Crush is in. Not a Crush fan, just saying.
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Why was Bitmore playing A and not AA ??? they where all 2021 team with an 2020 kid. Embarrassing trophy chasing. Bitmore 2021 team is playing B at green turtle and the rest of the summer looks like many trophies for them. Congrats on playing down and not challenging your kids. Bitmore in A at GT. They were .500 in Hoco club league. never seem them play but wouldn't think they are "AA" team. Summer exposure had AA, A & A1 for u11. What is the lowest dicision. I would think that Bitmore going in the middle would be reasonable
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Bitmore played AA in Hoco so why not play AA division of summer exposure. with the same teams they played all year. Lost to Crabs by 4 in season. Sound like trophy chasers to me. Bitmore playing A in summer exposure was a joke their kids where bigger than any team out there. Any coach could win with those kids playing in A. Man up and step up to AA.
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Why was Bitmore playing A and not AA ??? they where all 2021 team with an 2020 kid. Embarrassing trophy chasing. Bitmore 2021 team is playing B at green turtle and the rest of the summer looks like many trophies for them. Congrats on playing down and not challenging your kids. Bitmore in A at GT. They were .500 in Hoco club league. never seem them play but wouldn't think they are "AA" team. Summer exposure had AA, A & A1 for u11. What is the lowest dicision. I would think that Bitmore going in the middle would be reasonable meant not AA
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Green Turtle schedule finally posted - U11A tournament "championship" teams is a crapshoot since most teams don't play each other, even within the same bracket
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Carolina Cannons does the same thing - they enter their teams one level too low A mixed grade (2019/2020) true U13 team - with a bunch of U12's that is the makeup of the Cannons. A bunch of the boys were in the [lacrosse]'s U11 bracket back in December. According to the website suggested brackets U13A was appropriate. If you entered an all 2020 team in U13A you were playing up - so easy to accuse others of cheating when you lose HOGAN LAX SITE: U13 AA- for very competitive teams A- for not as competitive teams B- for teams with all first year (born between 9/1/2001-8/31/2002 or later) U13 players. No team with second year (born between 9/1/2000-8/31/2001) U13 players can play in the B Division.
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Ok, so they played down in two age brackets, that does not help their case. When several of the kids on a U13 team (AA, A, B, X, Y or Z) are bigger than their adult coaches, something's not right.
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seriously? are there no tall kids on LI? There are plenty of boys out there born after 9/1/2000 who are 5' 10" and taller. Keep telling your kids everyone else is cheating - in my son's middle school there are plenty of big boys. Ever watch a Florida middle school team on youtube? much better than St. A's Freshmen - not a lot of holdbacks in our schools either Take a look at this article if you don't think Southerners are naturally bigger and more athletic - just wait until the SEC states start laxing more - Carolina isn't even the true south http://www.scout.com/story/1404139-draft-stats?s=143
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Happens in U13 too, the Threshers (NY) had a team of mostly 8th graders (2018) playing U13A, several of the kids were as big as the coaches. They rode roughshod over their 6th grade competition and lost to Carolina Cannons in the final. Cannons must be an amazing team or equally large, did not see them.
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What I don't understand is how does anyone associate 2018 with U13? they are completely different from one another? Thats why you register in an "Age Group" U13 is exactly that..13years of age or under end of story. This tournament had every player register with date of birth. In fact some teams had to play up a division based on those registrations and because of those cut off dates. So as far as 2018 is concerned, it doesn't have a thing to do with this tournament.Every player is registered by age not graduation year..Now come up here to Long Island and play this weekend in the LI Lax fest. Thats by graduation year...GOOD LUCK!!!
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Carolina Cannons does the same thing - they enter their teams one level too low A mixed grade (2019/2020) true U13 team - with a bunch of U12's that is the makeup of the Cannons. A bunch of the boys were in the [lacrosse]'s U11 bracket back in December. According to the website suggested brackets U13A was appropriate. If you entered an all 2020 team in U13A you were playing up - so easy to accuse others of cheating when you lose HOGAN LAX SITE: U13 AA- for very competitive teams A- for not as competitive teams B- for teams with all first year (born between 9/1/2001-8/31/2002 or later) U13 players. No team with second year (born between 9/1/2000-8/31/2001) U13 players can play in the B Division. Carolina Cannons have two U13 teams - and they put their top one in A bracket Might be in the cannons name, the U11 Prince William Cannons played their NPYLL AA team down in A
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Don't know why the dropped down also. They lost to a 2022 team.
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This nonsense about playing down will only stop when EVERYONE holds back their kindergarteners and then repeats, I meean re-classifies in 8th grade
until then we are all cheaters exept for my son's team.
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Grade has quite a bit to do with it. Yes, it was an age based tournament but the Threshers were the ONLY team in the entire U13 Division that had ANY 2018 players much less the majority of their roster. DOBs were not posted on the Hogan website - grades were. The only explanations for a team of 2018 players in U11 are: 1. 11 of the 17 players skipped a grade so they are not only a team whose players are in the 150-200th percentile height and weight wise for their age but they are also brilliant 2. The entire team cannot follow simple instructions to register 3. They were in the wrong division
U13 was a division with over 60 teams. Do the math-statistically and logically speaking if the only 2018 graduates out of 1,000+ players were all on one team it is logical to conclude that the majority of the Threshers were not U13.
This is an issue all parents should be concerned about, to maintain the integrity of the game and keep all of the players as safe as possible. No matter how you look at it - Threshers were not U13. Whether they purposely put DOBs down that resulted in them being classified in U13 or whether Hogan made a mistake, a stand up team would have said something the moment the schedule came out.
Additionally this team had the nerve to play U13A as soon-to-be high schoolers - not AA!
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Grade has quite a bit to do with it. Yes, it was an age based tournament but the Threshers were the ONLY team in the entire U13 Division that had ANY 2018 players much less the majority of their roster. DOBs were not posted on the Hogan website - grades were. The only explanations for a team of 2018 players in U11 are: 1. 11 of the 17 players skipped a grade so they are not only a team whose players are in the 150-200th percentile height and weight wise for their age but they are also brilliant 2. The entire team cannot follow simple instructions to register 3. They were in the wrong division
U13 was a division with over 60 teams. Do the math-statistically and logically speaking if the only 2018 graduates out of 1,000+ players were all on one team it is logical to conclude that the majority of the Threshers were not U13.
This is an issue all parents should be concerned about, to maintain the integrity of the game and keep all of the players as safe as possible. No matter how you look at it - Threshers were not U13. Whether they purposely put DOBs down that resulted in them being classified in U13 or whether Hogan made a mistake, a stand up team would have said something the moment the schedule came out.
Additionally this team had the nerve to play U13A as soon-to-be high schoolers - not AA! where is threshers from? if NY they have a jan 1 cutoff for school instead of Sept 1. Meaning kids born in the fall of 2000 would be going into 9th grade (2018) unless held back. In other state like here in MD the same kids would be going into 8th grade (2019). Either way they would be eligible for u13 tournament unless they actually lied about bdays. whether they should have been AA would be another story
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Bitmore played a 2020 kid in 11uA. No wonder they won the tournament. Kid that old even if he made the 11u cut off by one Day man up and play AA. The kid is 2 to 3 years old then most playing 11uA. Every other kid listed as 2021 and you still played A and not AA. A bunch of sandbaggers.
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Hard to believe that on the MD section of this site there are complaints about age...
Half of the players (in some cases more than half) on madlax and crabs and the rest are reclassified in 8th grade. Effectively being held back so they can compete against younger kids to look better and hopefully get a D-1 spot.
And you are complaining about a few age appropriate U-13 players because they are in 8th grade due to the school cut off dates???
Being in 8th grade doesn't make a kid bigger or stronger or faster. Being held back a year specifically to compete against kids that are a year younger is what MD players (and now some Philly players) are famous for; you invented it.
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Not even close to being true about Madlax, but keep believing that everyone south of LI cheats to win.
Don't know about Crabs.
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Not true at all for Crabs either. Would love to know where you get your misinformation. Unless you have hard facts you shouldn't spread lies.
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Not true at all for Crabs either. Would love to know where you get your misinformation. Unless you have hard facts you shouldn't spread lies. CRABS 17'S HAVE ONE MIDDIE WHO WAS HELD BACK 2X...many others are hold backs as well
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Are you saying that 2017 and 2018 mad lax and crabs teams are all age appropriate? Parents at various games have told me/estimated half have been re-classed or left back, is this not accurate?
The info comes from your own parents???
I think the mad lax 2018 team is playing this weekend at big 4 championship in Philly. I would love to hear and be very happy to hear, that that team is made up of year 2000 birthdays, or at least late 1999 birthdays.
The rumor is that half of those kids will be a year older, if it is not true then I apologize. Please set the record straight so there are no more rumors.
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[quote=Anonymous]Not true at all for Crabs either. Would love to know where you get your misinformation. Unless you have hard facts you shouldn't spread lies. Our son plays in same tournaments and showcases as Crabs 2017 players. The bios for the kids go onto every tournament and showcase program including d.o.b. There are a total of four Crabs 2017 players born in 1999. And several of them were born in 1997. Are you trying to argue this is misinformation?
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I'm talking about the Crabs middle school teams. I have no knowledge about the high school teams.
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So, middle school means 2018. You are saying that the 2018 team is made up of all age appropriate players? I was told more than half are repeating 8th grade, but if you can prove other wise, we would need to apologize to crab nation.
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I'm talking about the Crabs middle school teams. I have no knowledge about the high school teams. Well then, the Crabs middle school teams are just not outed yet. Once they are in HS the programs include d.o.b. It is a constant that Crabs teams are rostered with mostly kids who have been held back once or twice. The popular grade to repeat is 8th grade because once they are in 9th it is too late. Most leagues have rules stating you can only play 4 years in sports but don't have age limits. Gee, weren't we just debating who was lying and relying on misinformation? That one pretty much stopped when someone pointed to the actual d.o.b. for a CrabHS team. Now, the Crabs website does have the rosters for the Young Guns tournament coming up with a Crabs middle school team entered. Do you really want to be embarrassed by people pointing to that information provided by Crabs parents? Not misinformation or lying, so just stop.
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