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Yea heard he was there to look at a few kids from other teams.
But the attack from fl$- Manhasset is his target.

Other than Danowski, what other colleges had coaches at NYLA?

Whatever you say Daddy of an fl$ attack position player. Lot's of great players and tournaments. Absolutely foolish to think a coach allocates his weekend to look at one kid.

Adrenaline was great.

Coaches that I noticed were North Carolina, Duke, Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Navy, Villanova. I'm sure there were many others but those are the schools that were close to where I was sitting at a few of the games.

There were a lot of very good lacrosse players for the coaches to look at. I have to say that if your town coaches (2018, 2017, 2016, 2015) are telling you not to play for a team that goes to this type of tournament you have to question their thought process.

Great event. [/quote]

Our son went to the Blackcard only, but I came away thinking Adrenaline does everything first class and 1000% better than other groups do. My son's team was not at the Platinum Cup, but I wish so. After this Adrenaline throw down I would not be surprised to see this organization run away with it. They do things better.

Saw Stony Brook and Mount St. Marys at NYLA.

Turtles won the tournament and went undefeated. Scored 76 goals and let up 19 in six games.

91 went 0-3-2 in five games.

Our son went to the Blackcard only, but I came away thinking Adrenaline does everything first class and 1000% better than other groups do. My son's team was not at the Platinum Cup, but I wish so. After this Adrenaline throw down I would not be surprised to see this organization run away with it. They do things better. [/quote]

Blackcard was the individual showcase day put on by Adrenaline? When did you (or your son's coach) first submit an application?

Blackcard was the individual showcase day put on by Adrenaline? When did you (or your son's coach) first submit an application? [/quote]

Interesting you should ask. Our son heard from an older friend who went last year it was a blast and great event. We asked his club coach to recommend him in the Fall. His club coach did it but also told us with emphasis this was a waste of time and money. A waste of a day and $100 ?!? Blah blah Jake Reed, blah blah Top 205, etc. Like basically everything else his club coach was wrong and just referring us to the other expensive crap where our club had a relationship. This was a fabulous first class event. Adrenaline I walked away from believing runs the best events...again, our team didn't go to Platinum Cup and I would not be shocked to understand later that the Platinum Cup was also awesome, competitive and run first class.

Maybe there were coaches there to see the Goalie that played the entire game. It is a recruiting event.

I saw the Outlaws/fl$ game and was impressed with the level of play. Lots of coaches on the sidelines.

Good play on both side and yes, it's about recruiting. Folks, we are past the chest thumping "my team is better than your team" age. Leave that for the younger forums who think it really matters.

Says the parent of the player.

Interesting you should ask. Our son heard from an older friend who went last year it was a blast and great event. We asked his club coach to recommend him in the Fall. His club coach did it but also told us with emphasis this was a waste of time and money. A waste of a day and $100 ?!? Blah blah Jake Reed, blah blah Top 205, etc. Like basically everything else his club coach was wrong and just referring us to the other expensive crap where our club had a relationship. This was a fabulous first class event. Adrenaline I walked away from believing runs the best events...again, our team didn't go to Platinum Cup and I would not be shocked to understand later that the Platinum Cup was also awesome, competitive and run first class. [/quote]

Thanks much for your insight!

HAAAAAAAAAAA...

fl$ 2017 coaches hijacked the tryout.

Turtles looked very strong for sure. I saw two of their games over the weekend. Looks like the turtles added a few new players or maybe some kids were just wearing their H.S. helmets.

Who I saw at NYLA: Duke, BU, Colgate, Fairfield and Syracuse.

Huh? What do you base your statement on? How many fl$ 2017 made the team?

enough to know the fl$ 2017 coach, who was a nassau evaluator had significant influence on the process. If fl$ team has all these great players why aren't they better? How did they do at NYLA?

At NYLA,
2017 fl$ were beaten by the outlaws. Really. Makes sense as to why the attack from 2017 were given spots on sophomore roster for showcase.
Love for the money goes a long way in any business deal

Guess it's why everyone says it's political.

you have to be that way to think that way says another parent.

Let's try to be a realist and not blame one coach. Here are the facts on the Nassau team: 13 different high schools have players on the team. 4 boys from Southside HS (none play for fl$) 4 boys from Garden City (1 plays for fl$) 7 different HS have one player on the team and of those 7, only 1 plays for fl$. Two fl$ from Manhasset also made it for a total of 4 out of 23. Hijacking means taking control. 17% is hardly taking control. But if it is, that means that the GC/Southside coaches also hijacked it. What club team(s) do the other 19 players play for?

When ratings are down. You have to do whatever it takes to get your organization looking good

It's called home cooking for a reason. Same thing happens everywhere. In Maryland the Freestate tryouts are notorious for being a self esteem building sham for the IAC and MIAA junior varsity.

I've heard that If you listen closely, you can actually hear a turtle crying.

I agree. For example, take a look at the Inside Lacrosse website they held their showcase yesterday & today and just posted their All-Stars. Those kids have a GREAT shot to be on the IL top 50 rankings when they come out. Point is, its all about $$$. 3D is the exact same way. We live in a non-hotbed (Ohio) so our options are limited, but the IL event would have been great for my son but we found out about it too late.

Strange, there were mostly public school coaches at the FreeState tryout...how does that benefit the MIAA/IAC teams?

Strange, there were mostly public school coaches at the FreeState tryout...how does that benefit the MIAA/IAC teams? [/quote]

Wrong. The evaluators were mostly IAC and MIAA coaches, and look at the names on the board of directors. You're misinformed.

Turtles were Impressive. What's up with Team 91? They struggled. I guess the Turtle additions did not help.

Transferred the below from the Under Armour thread. Pertains to this discussion as well:

you people are funny, if a great player with a big reputation has a bad tryout but makes the team everybody says it was predetermined and the kid made it on reputation, If a player without a big reputation has a great tryout and makes it then t is because of connections, basically nobody ever deserve to make a team based on his tryout, it is always something. Maybe the kid is a good player and the GC coaches never gave him a chance and they were wrong. Or maybe he had a great two days and deserved to make the team.

The level of play at Adrenaline was unreal. Turtles by far most impressive, WCS and Sweetlax stacked with talent, Mesa, Dukes and laxachussetts not too far behind, 91 just didn't have the depth to make a big impact. This event will be a recruiting favorite, rutgers is easy to get to, could use some additional turf fields, although very easy to get around.

For those of you crying about the Nassau showcase tryout, the Suffolk showcase tryout was a joke. Coaches weren't even watching the games and absolutely no talent evaluation going on at all. Of course the usual suspects made it whether they played well or not.

the manhasset pole and csh middie got robbed.

For any parents that attended Brine NLC last Summer...What was the schedule roughly like? Did the teams stick together and practice/drill together, were kids separated by position for drills, did teams practice once down there? As a parent what was the day like? For instance, arrive at field at say 9am and leave at 5pm? or? Is there food services on "campus"? Did you pack a cooler with lunch for day? Did you drop off your son and/or stay and watch the entire day? Any heads up is greatly appreciated...

But you are not crying, good for you! That being said, no one can properly evaluate on the merits over 40 boys in a 60 minute running time game.

I know a suffolk player that literally didn't touch the ball 1 single time at the tryout but made the 2nd tryout and eventually the team.

Agreed

Anything with local coaches is going to rigged. It always is. No matter what sport. What do you expect. Kids are never expected to win on their own merit any more lol

Anyone do the Brine 2017 tryout yesterday? How was it?

In the Nassau second round tryout, the coach switched middies. A former Turtle says to the coach as he is coming off "That's f'in [lacrosse], I just got on". Needless to say the coach was less than pleased. This young man is a very good player but hopefully he learned a lesson - how you conduct yourself matters as well.

But on the other hand, the process was rigged and they baited him into this so they could select a favorite.