BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2023 Fall 2013/Summer 2014

Nope

No, the Bandits did not play

So do I. However, one of your fans, an uncle of a little Outlaw, has a different opinion on the Pro Player thread.

Heard 91 Warriors got thumped last weekend by everyone. What happened? I saw them play earlier this year and thought they were ok.

They tied Outlaws 4-4 and Beat Legacy, they did loose to Express, but I don't think "Thump" is the proper adjective to describe their day

They lost to HB and express B team?

Nope. They were duckin the competition.

They got beat by the Baracudas ( Express B) and got crushed by the HB ( Express A) team. They are not a good team. More if a "C" team or really good 2nd grade team. The Legacy 2nd team would give them a game.

What does that even mean?

Any of your future blue chips playing with their town teams in the Koehler tournament?

What teams are playing in the JDFR next weekend?

Both Express and Warriors

HDD, True Blue, Outlaws, Tomahawks, Icon & Legacy as well. Some of these teams are combo 3rd/4th so don't what division they'll play.

If you are a combo don't you have to play up?

yes

Who cares. Just line up and play.

I care if my second grade kid plays your 4th grader.... You must not be too bright.

8XZ78X

3rd and 4th playing, nobody said anything about 2nd grade Einstein. And a 3rd/4th grade combo B should play a 3rd A.

Perhaps you need to go back to your Mensa meeting... 3/4 should play 4th no matter what. There are 2024 teams (with balls) playing up in the 2023 division here. You seem to want your 4th grade kid to play down...that can't happen. If you think that should happen then maybe you need your kid to redshirt...or go to a couple of clinics.

Teams should NEVER play down! A team/coach that knowingly plays down should be run out of town.

This issue is such a hot button. Combo teams like a 3rd/4th team that is a B team can play down in my opinion. Under one condition. It is communicated and agreed beforehand. I think that is what drives people nuts.... The seemingly clandestine nature that teams are placed and matched up. Just state it beforehand, get the coaches to agree and nobody would say boo.

You should never ever play down. If you have 1 4th grader and 20 3rd graders you play 4th grade. That is all there is to it. No opinions, you are cheating because you have one over aged player.

When is somebody going to wake up and make all LI teams age based.

Unfortunately when a younger kid gets hurt by a bully playing down (to keep daddy happy).

These are the US Lacrosse guidelines. I always found it interesting that there is a two year spread.



DIVISION BIRTHDATE
U9 Born on or after 09|01|2004
U11 Born on or after 09|01|2002
U13 Born on or after 09|01|2000
U15 Born on or after 09|01|1998

Age has nothing to do with it. It is grade.

Age has everything to do with it at that age group!!

Not according to the what group you are playing in. You can be 10 and in the 3rd grade and play 2023. Not agreeing with it, but that is what it is. However, in U9 you must born after August 31st 2004. Age is not the criteria for most LI tourneys, because they are grade based.

Why can't lacrosse do it like soccer now? Everything is aged based and the players have to present photo ID cards to the ref before each game. And why do we still have to go every other year, U9, U11, U13, etc... I know they used to have to do it that way because some teams could not field a team in each age group so they paired them up, but I think at this point in time we could to single year divisions like soccer. U9, U10, U11, U12.....
Just my two cents...

It is going to take an organizing body like US lacrosse to level set this. Requiring rosters to be accompanied with a players US lacrosse#.

It's actually going to take the directors and coaches of the travel teams to start following the U based system and not playing in grade based tournaments. But that will not happen because parents are OK with gaming the system and holding back Junior so he is bigger and stronger than his playpen pal in Kindergarten! The parents of the players have to be educated and start holding the travel teams responsible for the safety and level playing field that should be out there. If an entire team wants to play up a year for "better" competition that is one thing, but having your ten/eleven year old play on a 3rd grade team because he started Kindergarten a year late is unacceptable. If you don't want to teach your son to work hard to be better than the next kid, instead tell him to be a bully and just go play with the year younger kids. Great life lesson!!!

We are the consumers of this product and we should dictate how the market is structured. Be part of the solution not part of the problem!

How did all of the teams that played at JDRF to day do?

Honey Badgers and Outlaws went 3-0.

The disturbing thing is that USL knows this is crap and prefaces it with "Teams organized by single birth year or single grade are suggested"

http://www.uslacrosse.org/rules/age-eligibility-guidelines.aspx

Why do they go into such detail on two year brackets when they are supposedly suggesting single year brackets? I really hope the USL, Tournaments, Clubs, and Recs, get on board with the single year teams until the kids are in high school. U8, U9, U10, U11, U12, U13, U14, U15 all with 9/1 cutoffs are ideal unless you have less than 4 teams in a tourney, league, etc. Lets stop all the whining and confusion with U13AA, U13A, U13B, etc. each with different age cutoff limitations.

The age question is always discussed but never acted on. Changing to a U- based system with ID cards would change the make-up of teams that have been together for years. It would eliminate kids who clearly should be in the grade above playing down because that's the grade there in not the grade they should be in. Some kids would have to move to older teams which certainly would make some parents unhappy when there kid is not as successfull. While change is always difficult after a season or 2 everyone would be on board and ultimately make for better and safer compitition.

91 bandits win the 7/8A in Maryland!

wow! you made good time back from baltimore on a sunday to post this...

Good for you. Congrats on beating 7 year olds!

what was the competition like?