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What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD

Re-read what you wrote and then ask yourself - is this a conflict of interest? How about teachers who say you must hire me as your tutor if you want an A in my class? Is that any different?

If the kids needs no push, why get involved this year daddy coach? Where were you the other years? hmmmmmmmm can't leave it to chance can you ?

Smithtown West all-americans not on travel teams!

The whole daddy coach thing confuses me. Is it that a person is a father is what makes him a bad choice? Could it be that if a person is unfairly appointed or selected, regardless of his unqualified nature, that this makes him a poor choice? What if somebody is truly mega qualified, and offers to help for free, as he may be a professional at high level? If this person happens to have a kid in the district, should the district pass him by? Many of you think so. I do not agree. I just see no effort to even thinly veil the jealous nature of the complaints. Come up with a better reason than asserting that a daddy coach is a bad thing. If a daddy coach puts his kid in a spot, and the freshman (oops) delivers what most seniors cannot, then why not concede that he did well? Oh, no, can't do that. It wasn't little Seymour.

Smithtown west is an exception, just as there are a few others. Most school districts have not had the policy in place, where they restrict participation with outside travel clubs, for long enough to feel/ field the results. Most of us middle of the road towns applaud SWest, and the others, and even spectate at their games. Until our school commits to fielding fantastic coaching and year round training, my freshman will have to return coaches calls received through his travel coach.

I heard that he is completely uninvolved now, so I guess that we will see if the kid suddenly stops ripping it up.

as i understand it you are missing an important element - the dad/coach is also an owner of a pay for play summer team and that some people might feel that kids that pay to play on his team have an unfair advantage on the public high school team.

Mr Suffolk A weak,
What do you have to say for yourself now? If S West can't win a semifinal with 3 all Americans, something smells!

as i understand it you are missing an important element - the dad/coach is also an owner of a pay for play summer team and that some people might feel that kids that pay to play on his team have an unfair advantage on the public high school team.

Mr Suffolk A weak,
What do you have to say for yourself now? If S West can't win a semifinal with 3 all Americans, something smells!

Wait till #2 comes around. But he's already setting that grade up with 91

Oh my gosh, you don't even try to hide your weird crazy napeleonic way! The discussion involved S West's kids at all-American status. You sound strangely unstable. You have done well, now back to the issue.....

oh as for the Rotanz comment have a set and post who you are instead of Stirring the pot with these comments . I forgot did you play on a High school sqaud or a college team that every year repeated and won it all every year . and was dominent every year. every program has great runs and great years , and has a rebuilding year. oh yea last year running clock on West Genny one of the other most storied programs in High school lacrosse . Give it up . again post who you are with your comments or go home or back under your rock.

Actually this was an answer to an earlier declaration about how "weak" Suffolk A was, [lacrosse]! Had nothing to do with Stowns unproductive all Americans! The post was meant to prove the point that teams such as Stown East and Sachem North, etc, are great competitive teams in Suffolk A, so easy there!

How'd WI Shut Keenan down?

i have mixed emotions regarding the wi/sw results. my son played with team li way back in 4th grade and l got to know some of the sw parents and players. total class act and GREAT kids. l feel they were a state champ team but wi had a better game plan. The idiot parents at sw who scream "he's got nothing" all game got just what they deserve: nothing. pa anouncer is knucklehead. someone beat massapequa

In Nassau we say "someone beat Smithtown West" be careful what you wish for Syosset v. Smithtown East/Sachem North would be a good match up

I don't think so. I was at game a few weeks back where Massapequa destroyed Syosset. Looked like they were playing their JV squad. It is playoffs now, so it should be closer but I don't think Pequa will have problem with the Braves. The problem with Massapequa is they played a weak schedule this spring. They haven't had tough games since Garden City and Chaminade which they lost both. Not their fault and they are very deep, but I think Suffolk A teams have the edge because of the completion every week.

Yea coverage in Newsday strange since all season big full page photos of SW I- rumor is Newsday reporter family friend of keenan so prob. does not want to show player in less than stellar light. Game plan back fired!

Yea coverage in Newsday strange since all season big full page photos of SW I- rumor is Newsday reporter family friend of keenan so prob. does not want to show player in less than stellar light. Game plan back fired!

On another note. For the New [lacrosse] vs Maryland crowd...two biggest offensive headliners today are Long Island bred and trained. MylesJones and Matt Kavanaugh.

One a typical little Long Island kid and the other not so little, which makes it hard to believe he's from Long Island because Long Island kids are small

You mean like Miles ?

i am so happy that i am not in your shoes. my son is a senior and i am done with all this. the outlaws never dicked us around like the situation that team 91 is putting you in. good luck.

On a more serious note - anybody know which summer club Myles played for while he was at Walt Whitman? Express, 91, fl$?