BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums National Premier Youth Lacrosse League - Spring 2014

This thread will be used for coverage, news, schedules, standings, and results from the Spring 2014 NPYLL action in the Maryland area.

Who are the tops teams at each age?

Crabs
Madlax
Hawks
Club Blue
Arden
Vlc

This is at U15

13 u
11 u

This is after two weeks per the standings: http://www.npyll.com/Standings.asp?org=npyll.com


U9AA;
Hawks 2023
Bethesda LC-Blue
MADLAXX U9A Orange
Club Blue U9AA
Breakout
Cannon U9 Gold
Next Level

U11AA:
Hawks 2021
Bethesda LC-Blue
MADLAX U11AA Orange
Cannons U11 Gold
Diamondbacks 2021
API
Club Blue
Fearless
MD Xtreme

U13AA Blue:
Hawks 2019
MLC
Crabs U13AA
Fearless U13
Club Blue
Breakers U13AA
Triple Threat

U13AA RED:
Bethesda LC-Blue
MADLAX U13AA Orange
Next Level
API
Xtreme
VLU U13

U15AA Blue:
Zingos 2018
VLC U15
Club Blue
Diamondbacks 2018 LIME
Crabs U15AA
Breakers U15AA

U15AA RED:
MADLAX U15AA Orange
Hawks 2018 Green
Bethesda
Cannons
Hardshells

Looks like a pattern of a combination of Hawks/Bethesda/Madlax at the top

MdXtreme at the bottom

MDXtreme looks to be out of their element and has a long road head of them, only three goals scored after two games at the U11AA level. Bethesda beat MadLax last week (12-6) and the Hawks play Madlax this week.

U13AA is not completely recorded per the site, looks like 3 games have not be called in or played yet. Too early to tell who will prevail to the playoffs.

U15AA is wide open, very competitive league on both side (Red/Blue); Crabs beat Hawks by 3...scores of games are all over the place..

I think all games are recorded, its just that standings/records are only shown for games within your division

Example - U13AA MLC shows 1 - 0 but if you click their name you see they lost to Madlax

MD Extreme doesn't appear to be doing well at any level A or AA at any age - Can NPYLL remove them or do teams like having the easy win

Madlax is tops in 15AA

Hawks beat MadLax 7-6 this weekend 11U

What happened to Crabs and Breakers at U15 level? Big fall-off from last year.

Cannons and Maryland Extreme had only scored 4 goals combined against them so Madlax must be a good team

Hawks vs Bethesda should be a great game

This is what happens when you only see a boxscore without context. Madlax U15 beat the Crabs in OT, and the Crabs were missing a bunch of players, including several starters.

Saw the Hawks Versus Crabs and the Madlax vs West Coast All Stars games; the intensity that was played in the Hawks Vs Crabs way surpassed the intensity level that Madlax played the West Coast team. Can actually believe that Madlax vs Crabs was a fluke from the above statement.. Crabs & Hawks play with some major intensity and the long poles play at whole different level along with the speed of these teams. Not really sure who can compete with them but the truth will be told in the coming weeks... It will be interesting to see what happens when Madlax meets the Hawks or who will be the final four standing when the playoffs start...

Did you see Madlax vs West Coast Stars last Sunday? That was a scrimmage and depending on which game you watched MAdlax's 2nd or 3rd game of the day

This is what happens when you lose. Crabs make excuses

Not sure if it was the 2nd or the 3rd, game was in the AM hours (prior to noon, think it was around 10AM in the stadium, there were multiple games at Landon that day) and parent in the stands said it was Madlax U15AA. Not saying Madlax is a bad team by any means, think the final score of the game I saw was 9-6 (was definitely a scrimmage).

Can anyone out there give a overall rating of the U13AA teams?
1.Crabs
2.Madlax,Hawks,
3.?????

FCA better than all

Hawks have already beaten Crabs so shouldn't you start there?

The Hawks have not played the Crabs in the NPYLL according to the NPYLL site. In the U13AA bracket. And why do the FCA guys always break into the NPYLL site. Get into the NPYLL then talk.

Hawks played the Crabs a week or so before NPYLL. Beat them.

At u15 madlax, crabs, hawks and club blue should clean up on other teams and could each beat the other three on a good day. For now though you have to go on actual results, which probably outs madlax on top until they lose to one of the others.

At u13, you could probably make the same statement but substitute Bethesda for club blue.

I agree. Strongest teams at u15 are crabs, madlax, and hawks.

Any good matchups this weekend?

U15 AA Club Blue at Crabs should be a good game

Madlax is at the top. Then anyone can beat anyone top to bottom.

Couple of Crab kids had car trouble for the MadLax game and couldn't get a ride...now that they have their crs repaired and can drive themselves to games, WATCH OUT!

What happened to VLC? Did they just have one super U-15 team that is now a 2017 team, and that's it...nothing behind it? Surprised they were not able to build off that super 2017 team.

I think the class behind that class got split up and left for the new team Freedom lacrosse. I think the big thing is VA thinks they have more good players then they really have. So they keep making more and more travel teams and the talent keeps getting spread out. I think there is a travel team linked to every big NVYLL program in VA. So we need to push these teams back into each other or get more kids playing at a high levl.

No. Most of the va talent at 2018 is at madlax. Same at 2019.

I agree with that statement that most of the talent at that age level is at Madlax. But what I am saying is if you take the top 3 players off all the B level travel teams in VA and make one team they could play good games in the NPYLL AA div. But there is to many kids that feel they have to start and score all the goals so they go play for the local travel team and do not try out for the NPYLL teams in va. The parents use the money as a excuse as they drive away in there BMW. They are just scared there baby might get cut or will not start if they try out for Madlax or VLC.

had not heard of or seen Freedom Lacrosse yet. That's too bad for VLC. Apparently a bunch of the top kids from the 2017 teams are also dropping out for another Maryland All-Star team. One parent commented to me sick of the politics and favoritism not based on player ability in the Fall. That is pretty sad, it was such a good team.

I would agree there is too much dilution in nova with the plethora of club teams. But some of the lesser teams serve a useful purpose by giving less developed kids a home to grow. I would like to see vlc and madlax consistently draw the best and challenge marylands best.

By the way, what happened to the breakers after 2017? That class was strong, doing very well in the npyll and winning the tri state tourney. Their 2018 is not nearly as strong. Did they. Lose kids to other clubs or is it just an off year?

3d coming to DC metro area will wipe out VLC and Madlax and create the concentration of talent you are noting. Neither VLC or Madlax have been able to do it because both organizations are broken by politics / parent nonsense at the older ages when recruiting kicks in.

What and who is 3d and how are they completely immune to any politics? Serious question from current madlax parent.

There are a lot of misinformed posts/posters on this board.

First, at U15 Hawks, Crabs, Madlax are all excellent teams and could beat each other on any given day.

Correct that Madlax has most talent at 2018 and 2019. Also correct that with more and more youth programs popping up, talent is getting really diluted.

VLC's 2018s and 2019s weren't great last year; both are better this year, though not among the best in their age groups. They did add some good new kids...haven't heard about any kids leaving for Freedom. Freedom doesn't even have a U15 team.

Breakers 2018 is not as good as their 2017s but still a solid team. Again not as good as Crabs/Hawks/Madlax but hardly terrible. Let's not be so dramatic.

Not many programs have outstanding teams every year save Crabs. Madlax's 2015s are not good, 2016s are so-so. 17s/18s/19s are better.

VLC is the opposite; great HS teams, current U13 and U15s are not on the same level.

As for 3d 'wiping out' Madlax and VLC, don't bet on it. You think 3d has a magic cure for parental BS and egos? As long as there are only 10 guys on the field at a time no DC program will be able to get or hold all the elite kids. How's it going to go over when little Johnny doesn't get selected for the 3d national team?

The idea that politics issues are hurting VLC's HS teams doesn't add up with the fact that their HS teams are their strength and among the best around.

Whether you like Madlax and VLC and their people or not, there are a lot of talented players in the area and plenty of guys will want to play in programs run by local people who actually know the kids, regardless of how much money 3d spends on marketing hoodoo.

Interested to hear from those who disagree.

They where asking about the VLC kids younger then the U15 so that is where someone said the where at U13 freedom lacrosse. I agree that 3D will not take all the talent in NOVA. I think it will force the better kids out of these little programs up into the Madlax and Vlc teams

I am a VLC parent and posting for first time here. I am not informed about MadLax, and most of the parent peer complaints I hear at our son's age are about the high prices at MadLax. VLC dropped having a U-11 team and does one U-13 team and one U-15 team. That is not a philosophy to develop talent. It is a philosophy to do a All-Star team at each age. The VLC 2015 team is outstanding, the 2016 team is not, and the 2017 team is outstanding. I agree that you can't run a program to make everyone happy. VLC used to be a program where the kids tried out once a year, made the team and then after making a team had to earn playing time. If someone was better at your position they could take your spot or your playing time and the idea was to have kids who were ready for the recruiting phase. The 2017 team is a political mess like the earlier poster mentioned. Even though it is late in the game a lot of top players are looking to leave and are being invited to other top teams, including the new 3d invite only high school team. The problems started with the VLC rules not applying for everyone starting with bringing over a MaxLax kid and driving two great VLC kids away last summer. The fall was a mess. Bad tournaments that were barely attended by college coaches instead of the Terp Classic, and there are more than a few families of the top VLC players who were fuming that the top players were not being played in favor of the ones who were local rec team kids. These are not families who worry their little Johnny won't make a 3d team or a national team. Those kids have already been asked to switch and are guaranteed national team spots because they are very good players who don't want this stuff at an important time in their lacrosse lives.