BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) What's Your View? Player Passes

ithink we may have found some common ground! i have no problem with a player the same age playing as a guest on a team, it's done in soccer tournaments all the time, i just don't want my sixth grader playing your sixth grader and your eigth grader and/or his friends filling in for a missing goalie or or anyone else. i've already been to too manmy tournaments wherer a real good player or three dominate a game and then we see them playing on another field with kids two years older, our coach was actually told by another coach after a tournament that he needed a few extra players so an older sibling and couple of friends played - we lost 9-6, 8 gaols were scored by that group of players

I absolutely agree that that is cheating. Putting in midfielders attackmen or defenders, that are older and can dominate a game, Especially in the younger age groups, the team should have been disqualified from the tournament, and in that case your correct, If you show up for a tournament and you don't have all rostered players and can't field a full team you should not be allowed to Fill your roster". But I am talking about injuries to a goalie, and replacing them with a player no more than 1 year senior. I think we all can admit, playing goal in lax is is hard, and no matter how good you are your going to get scored on, even by younger players. A good goalie can keep you on a game , or even win one if the circumstances are all in line, but a goalie could never dominate a game the way you described

Older kids dont belong on the field, no matter the position. If you cant find a goalie of the same age then you don't play the game. To say a good goalie cant make a HUGE difference in a game makes me think your kids team hasn't had the benefit of a truly gifted goalie. Whether an older player is scoring points for your sons team, or in the case of a goalie, blocking points for the other team the result is the same, an unfair advantage provided by cheating and using older kids. If you cant find a goalie why not look a year below? It always seems that people solve the problem of lack of players by reaching up a year instead of pulling a player up from a year younger team.

My son's travel team has 2 amazing goalies that can dominate a game. If they ever played down it would be a crime. They consistantly play up.

IMO, YOU ARE SO WRONG, GOALIE IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SPOTS AND CAN CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF A GAME.

I unfortunatley witnessed my town's B/C team do this (during winter). The team had one sub so the coaches went to the crowd and physically looked/moved over a few boys the proper age (from the same town) only to play older boys some whom were the coaches older sons. The older boys were 1 year older.

The over-looked boys (my son included) were the right age. But were also head and shoulders skill wise than the older boys who were asked.

But it left such an impression on the boys who were the right age.

I was later told that the opposing coaches were told that there were older boys playing who skills were not as sharp playing. I was also told, the opposing coach was actually happy that none of the A players were selected to fill in.

Conflicted here. Why?

Because the RIGHT thing was probably to take the older less skilled boys because of the level of play. But my town's team didnt use those boys as subs, instead started them which led to a victory. WHICH IS SOO WRONG.


If a child was left back, started late, whatever it is okay (as long as the player falls within the grade parameters). But to take a boy you know is not of proper age, especially when it is your son then start and use them more than your own players is inexcusable.

What are group was this? If it was 4th grade I heard the same thing. What are we teaching our kids, better to cheat then to play by the rules. Insane that the coaches ego got in the way here.

I know my sons town team sometimes has guest players to help fill a roster in a non PAL game. It happens. If they stack a team with many players thats an issue. You would be surprised how many teams fill in with guest players. Its 4th grade...... relax ! You have many years ahead of you. This supports having players having passes.

My child is a very gifted goalie that plays not only on a travel teams "A" team. but on a high school Varsity team as a starter on a very good squad. I myself played lacrosse with some of the best players, 2 of which are in the national hall of fame, and coached some players that I'm certain will be some day. So with 20+ years in lacrosse I can tell you two things about goalies. I have seen the best goalie get absolutely lit up by mediocre players because there was no defense in front them, and I have seen kids that have never been in the crease not even face a shot because the D was so tight. Dan Marino fro G.C. is probably one of the best keepers on L.I. today, Let a fairly talented 5th grader take 10 shots on him and he'll get 3 in. A goalie can win a game, but can never dominate one.