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The boys have been suspended before if the reporting was correct. If these boys didn't know the significance of the flag or who won the civil war st Anthony's has some bigger problem in education then we can address here. Also, the school must address the issues brought up on social media as per the nysed states in the regulations. Regardless, of the private school all schools must follow certain aspects of what the state deems appropriate. Pesonally i think the school shouldn't be responsible for,what goes on over any social media if it isn't school related but that's a different story. I would imagine the parent of these students are not happy. A very difficult lesson to learn but I can't believe none of these students didn't realize this could be wrong. What they probably didn't expect was the severe repercussions. Also if I remember correctly every student with the flag wasn't expelled. So there may be a little more here than we know. Either was this ws and is unacceptable behavior.

Try again....There is nothing discriminatory or illegal about a private school taking disciplinary action for this type of behavior. So you're right we'll never hear about the settlement...but that is because there won't be one.

Just to give you a sense: 20+ years ago when I was at Chaminade a kid a couple years older was expelled for streaking at Sacred Heart. Then and now Seniors finish their year earlier at Chaminade and then have weeks before graduation. This kid had literally completed the year and was just awaiting graduation when he pulled his stunt and got caught. Chaminade expelled him and he graduated from the local public school.....Last year a Freshman was expelled on suspicion of smoking pot in the school during the first week. They don't care if you just got there or are almost done...if you break the rules you are gone. So don't be so sure sbout your prediction of legal victory for these students. Private schools have wide latitude when it comes to discipline.

Wait until TMZ finds out who's little brother was one of the boys involved.

Are you serious? Never say never! Kids are kids and they sometimes do terrible things, thinking they're funny, that their parents (or schools) are not proud of. To say that a catholic/private school kid will be a better person because there aren't "girls in tube tops and guys in low hung jeans" is absolutely ridiculous. Kids learn behavior in school, at home, with friends, on the field, in church/temple etc. Keep your fingers crossed that your kids remember right from wrong & make good decisions at all times.

& BTW I've known quite a few not so nice guys that graduated from Chaminade over the years...

A little history lesson: the south seceded from the
union to form their own country. The confederate
states of America. That country flew their own flag. The
Confederate flag. It was not used as a symbol of racism.
It is interpreted today as that. But to this day
the majority of the south does NOT see this flag that way.
Civil war was not about Slavery alone.

And the reason they seceded was because they wanted to keep slavery. The SOuth then went on to lynch , murder and oppress blacks every way it could, all the while with that flag a flying. Its a symbol for a culture who believed blacks where animals to be bought and sold, and that what it stands for.

FACTS! That flag is a symbol of the south that most down there respect it's NOT a symbol of slavery.

So the north according to you had no slavery????
Completely false!! We flew the same flag then that we do today.
Is that a symbol for oppression and slavery?
Get your facts straight. Slavery was everywhere
in this country, yet we still fly our flag.

For those of you on here decrying the Confederate flag, I trust that every time you see someone driving a Mercedes, BMW, or a VW, you judge the driver and the other passengers very harshly. Those companies, and others whose products we buy freely and celebrate today, behaved horrifically during the Holocaust in World War II. Among other things, they profited from slave labor from both camp occupants and POWs. And this is just a few generations ago, not hundred and 50 years. So surely that is a terrible affront to anyone impacted by the Holocaust and the atrocities of Imperial Germany. Again this would include people who are alive today who lived through this and many many people who are just one generation removed.

My guess, you don't bat an eye, and you may even drive these cars yourself, either knowing the horrible history or just not caring. Why? Because the population that would find this so offensive has moved on. They have chosen to focus on the here and now and the future and not dwell on something in the past. Some people, and peoples, grow up and move on. Some do not. In case you're wondering, I'm not a member of the group that is offended by any of this stuff.

What any of this carping has to do with the sport of lacrosse is beyond me.

Where is the post saying the north had no slavery?

As a twenty year educator teaching social studies the confederate flag has been and will continue to be controversial. Even the people of the south are torn over how and where it should be represented. It is a part of our history. It symbolizes the strength and unity of the south and men that gave their lives believing in their cause. It also stands for oppression , bigotry and rascism often portraying the south in a horrendous light. If those boys were from the south carrying around their flag as a badge of honor and pride from their roots then they shouldn't face any discipline but an explanation why the school believes it inappropriate. If they were carrying it around for any other reason wether it was a joke or not then the discipline they received was appropriate. Ignorance, stupidity and foolishness are not excuses. My guess is none of the were from the south.

But the North was in the process of getting rid of it, they where in the process of making sure it was not allowed in the new territories. Tell me, why do you think it was all the Southern States who voted against the Civil Rights act?

Just because they were in the process of getting
rid of it does that change the fact that it happened
in the north? The question is about the flag. We still
fly the same flag today that we did then when slavery
was rampant. No one complains about that.

So....how about that game called lacrosse? Anyone interested in discussing it? Is the history lesson and its controversy over?

Can that discussion be moved to another website, please?

Why hasn't Ty updated the committed list in like; forever???

Couldn't agree more. No one cares about St. Ants or Chaminade and how bad.great they are. Back to Lacrosse please.

Aside from Chaminade and GC, any other undefeated JV teams this season?

Didn't Chaminade JV lose to St A's JV?

If that's what you want to call a 13-2 loss then yes.

Wow. I dozed off a little right in the middle of that.....but that was certainly educational.

Thank you for that.

Any thoughts on the history of lacrosse or websites?

WM JV also undefeated thus far.

what is the break down of 2016 and 2017 on WM JV?

Syosset Freshman team

SWR JV team undefeated

The Express Orange will be an extremely strong team.

Not sure but the GC defense has let up a total of less than ~15 points on the season.
Very stingy defense and well coached.

Any one aware of any freshman playing varsity in NY Section 1?

Outside of thumping your chest for GC what does that have to do with a SA vs Chaminade conversation?

Eclipse 2017 will be good this year. This fall they beat both Dukes and Crabs. Granted its fall ball, but most kids at the higher level play year round. I'm sure both teams had someone missing too.

I thought this was a boys 2017 thread, not a SA VS Chaminade conversation. However, the original poster (after the civil war reenactment) asked "Aside from Chaminade and GC, any other undefeated JV teams this season? There was a bit "thumping of the chest" but, no different than any other daddy on this site.

Agree with this (I put the list together up top). I know the team is relatively new so this summer will be a great test. How does this affect the CT Chargers organization?

The 2017 CT Chargers will be much weaker. They lost about 1/2 to 2/3rds of their players to Eclipse. They still have some great players, just not as deep. I wish them luck.

I remember seeing the CT Chargers at the Young Gunz last summer as U-15aa team. They got beaten up pretty badly at that tournament. I did see Eclipse 2017 in the Fall in Baltimore when they beat Dukes, and Crabs and lost a tight game to VLC. The Eclipse are definitely in the top class of club teams for their 2017 team. I have a hard time reconciling that those were mostly the same players from CT Chargers, but maybe it was just the case the Chargers played very poorly last Summer in Baltimore, or it is possible the players improved dramatic.

The Eclipse 2017 team is very good and will be competitive this Summer at the top tournaments.

Patriots , laxachucets , chargers... All third tier teams... Probably on par with last year's 91 team - that could not compete with turtles true blue or express

True Blue or Express? Where was True Blue in the Fall? Did you watch Express in the Fall?

Your kid is a rising sophomore this summer, and you're still worried about who's team is better? Most kids and their parents are worried about which coaches they are going get the opportunity to play in front of. I guess you just don't get it. SAD. No one cares, go to the 2021 thread and join that conversation, much better fit for you.

Right on point. What are the parameters to be met when being deemed third tier ?

That's a joke, as are you

EXACTLY!!!

Is ok if we still talk about team achievement for one more year??

... After all lacrosse (even on LI) is still considered a TEAM sport... (For the parents that are more focused on their boy's future "D1" career than let the next 3 1/2 years of HS and Club team achievement)

Yes there is a kid playing significant minutes for a strong team in Section 1

Okay Dad of freshman player in section 1. Just tell us all about how great he is doing without all your anonymous posts attempting to identify him.