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Are you serious ?? You think Mass would play those teams ?? Look at Chaminade first 5 games of the season. They take on all if they could. If you were there you would have noticed Chaminade shut it down the whole fourth making it very boring to watch. Chaminade had Possession in their offensive end most of the game and when Mass did get the ball Chaminades defense was to physical and slid very quickly and shut them down second half. If anything I was dissapointed in Massapequa. They talked a big game and did not back it up. Let the excuses begin.
Did not hear the one where it was too cold yesterday and their mommies were not allowed on the sidelines with blankets to keep them warm.
Side note nice job on the stadium Chaminade. It was about time so more can see the machine at work

Did the Playoffs kinda go out the window with the second half?

Really? A town/travel argument? When a team is ranked in the top ten nationally that discussion is irrelevant.

No, actually it is very relavant! Chaminade draws from the entire tri-stae and beyond. Pequa kis are only from one town. I am much more impressed with a team that is nationally ranked drawing from a small area. They really should not even play each other. It's an all-star team playing a town team. Pequa showed that they can keep up, there was no blow out here. Chaminade also hides from playing the best all star teams such as Boy's Latin, and Hill Acadamy because they know what would happen!

Still wondering who is ducking?? Look at Massapequas schedule and ask yourself why are they playing those teams. Actually I will be cheering for Mass this saturday. GC 0-2 BY SUNDAY ??

No doubt that fielding a nationally ranked team from a small area is an impressive feat. However, every high school team deals the hand they are dealt whether public or private. No guarantee that a private school can attract a high caliber of talent year after year. If they do, there's no guarantee that the talent will play well together year after year. There are many factors that lead to a successful season for any school. So, just enjoy the competition and make no excuses.

It is relevant. When a public HS makes top ten nationally, that is huge! Kids coming from one town, working very hard and putting an extraordinary team together (on a public school budget) When you have a private school, drawing kids from all over, with resources and funds that no public school will ever receive. The coaching, the facilities, the $$$ that flows through that program is astonishing! They should be a "Machine"! Congratulations to Massapequa, SW and any other public school that can actually compete on a field with that. Chaminade is a great team, absolutely, but saying the town/travel is irrelevant is wrong.

It is relevant. When a public HS makes top ten nationally, that is huge! Kids coming from one town, working very hard and putting an extraordinary team together (on a public school budget) When you have a private school, drawing kids from all over, with resources and funds that no public school will ever receive. The coaching, the facilities, the $$$ that flows through that program is astonishing! They should be a "Machine"! Congratulations to Massapequa, SW and any other public school that can actually compete on a field with that. Chaminade is a great team, absolutely, but saying the town/travel is irrelevant is wrong.

You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.

Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.

Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.

Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.

Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.

How many state championships have been won by Northport???

Need to win a few before they are elite, at least I/M/O.

You can call yourself elite, I am not sure anyone cares enough to argue the point but pretty clear that WI and WM have won their fair share over the years.

Public Leagues on the Island are weak. The top one or two teams in each are good but the rest are not strong at all. Much like PAL, not competitive.

Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!

You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!

How many state championships have been won by Northport???

Need to win a few before they are elite, at least I/M/O.

You can call yourself elite, I am not sure anyone cares enough to argue the point but pretty clear that WI and WM have won their fair share over the years.

West Islip was 12-6 last year. Definitely a down year, but they beat Northport and reached the playoffs for the twenty something straight year. Since 2004 they have won 5 state titles, 7 LI titles, 9 straight county titles and 2 national titles. Ward Melville since 1986 has 8 state titles, 14 class A county titles, 11 LI championships and a national title last year. SWR has won 3 state , 5 LI and 9 county titles. Northport has 1 state title and 2 county and LI titles each. Massapequa, whom I think will probably face Smithtown West for this year's LI championship has 6 county titles and has never won a LI or state title. This brings me to Smithtown. 1 county title 14 years ago. In addition to Garden City, Manhasset, and CSH, I think Farmingdale, Syosset, Bethpage, Mt.Sinai, Southside and a few others have more of a right to call themselves elite than Smithtown. Now go get your shine box!

Pequa will lose to Stown west in the county finals just like last year to melville!

Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!

You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!

To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....

First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful group of people.

Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .

Six of those teams are from Long Island.

Four of those teams are Public Schools.

Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)

Manhasset 10 times

Ward Melville 10 times

West Islip 11 times

The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times

That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!

One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have them back.

Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of your fantasy.


Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.

Thank me very much!

Makes sense now, doesn't it?

I only have one thing to say: What have you done for me lately? Can't hide in past success forever!

Suffolk "A" weak again. Only the top two are good.

The only weak one is YOU! Only a complete jackass would make a comment like that hiding behind his keyboard! loser!

Smithtown West and Ward Melville are very good teams. Are there any other strong teams in the league? Please name another competitive team.

Why are you so angry? Do you think Suffolk "A" is a competitive league? It is always the same, two or three teams are strong. The other teams in the league compete with each other but not with the top teams.

It is the same in every league on the Island. Two or three teams at the top and then all of the rest. As another poster pointed out, "It is always the same teams".

Garden City
West Islip
St Anthony's
Ward Mwlville
Chaminade
Manhasset

Are very good teams just about every year. (West Islip is currently down)

Comseqogue
CSH
Farmindale
Huntington
Massapequa
SWR

Are as good as the top teams once every few years.

Northport
Smithtown
Syosset
Wantagh

Are as good from time to time (1 in 5 to 10 years)

There are more than 100 High School Lacrosse Teams on Long Island. Year in and year out the same 6 - 12 teams are the strongest. Every once in a while one of the other teams has a good year. It has been this way for a long time.

Great players come from all over the Island, not just from the best teams. Many kids from non traditional programs become standout players in college.

You can believe your league is competitive all you want but the facts say otherwise.

"Once every few years"

Actually, the fact is Smithtown West lost to WM in Suffolk county championship last year. They will win at the minimum, the Long Island championship this year, and probably the state title. Next year they will not be good as all their key players will graduate, kind like WM.

"Good every year"

WI is 0-2 to teams you consider "weak". "Always the same teams"??

WM will not be top dog this year!

Northport has always had a competitive team, and represents with a strong showing year after year with close, competitive games. It is a contest that is always circled on the schedule.

Sachem North has a very strong team, and represents a challenging contest among the better Suffolk A.

Bayshore is also a formidable opponent.

Smithtown East will be good this year, although they have a young team consisting mostly of freshman and sophomore starters. Next couple years, they will be a top team. Another example of how thing will continue to change.

Inside Lacrosse considers Suffolk county among the most competitive leagues.

YOU have no idea what you're talking about! There are NOT only 2 competitive teams in Suffolk A. The top 6-8 are very close. It will be a great season of Lax here in Suffolk A. Many competitive games and probably some upsets. Makes it exciting!

For a jerk like you to sit there and make stupid claims that have no merit is ridiculous!

Quick search:

Suffolk "A" Champions

Here are the facts, in the past 28 years (since 1986)

here is who has won it.

Ward Melville - 14 times
West Islip - 9 times
Northport - 2 times (none in past 10 years)
Sachem - 2 times (none in past 15 years)
Smithtown - 1 time (2003)

In the past 10 years how many different teams have made it two the finals?

Top two maybe three teams are good.