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I think the animosities already existed without the help of BOC. In one of the previous post, someone spoke of having enemies on the team. I don’t think that kind of statement is derived from comments made on BOC, it seems to have come from some other festering issues. My daughter is in HS and has been playing sports since kindergarten. In all of that time, there have been parents on some of these teams they I didn’t quite care for and parents that I’ve forged lasting friendships with, but I never considered anyone my enemy. I agree with the previous poster, the parents need to let go of their egos and get a grip.

As the quote goes - "The fish stinks from the head." This is what happens when you have a program that is built on fear, politics and bullying.

How does 2018 Rose look this year? I saw minor changes to the roster.

Hello, do you people have any idea what your talking about?! Seems not. Of course the goalie has to play with her age group, YJ goes to 11th grade. If she wants to play, she has to play with 2015, her graduating year.

This forum is nothing but whiners and complainers. And for parents who think "my kid is the best". Back of the cage, get rid of your forum and go back to being informational. It breeds nothing but animosity. Team sports are about the kids, not their parents egos. Everyone should get a grip.

Carro good coach not too sure about all your other opinions but summer will tell. Not too sure if Smithtown was the way too go

Is it fair to the current YJ 2015 team goalie who has played on that team all these years to now have the kid who played UP now play on that team? She played up on 2014 all these years and was given the advantage of being seen early even though there were 2014 age appropriate kids who were tossed aside in her favor. It has been going on at her High School as well and most of her team and parents are aware and sick over it. No one can say anything at school or at club out of fear of retribution by her dad (also the HS coach) or the club. This case is exactly what everyone is talking about when they mention fear and politics are ruining the game and some kids chances for recruitment.

Not calling anyone names here just stating the facts.

Are you kidding. Berts team just got shafted by the FAF group. To make way for those four kids, Bert had to move some really good talent. Carro is now very deep and very strong.

Are you kidding. Berts team just got shafted by the FAF group. To make way for those four kids, Bert had to move some really good talent. Carro is now very deep and very strong.

Are you serious do you really think the new kids at 2019 are going to make much of a difference.Team was very good before the changes and will be very good after the changes, very little difference from kids leaving to kids coming on.

Bert wants the kids from Mt S. to build the future!!!!!!

Bert wants the kids from Mt S. to build the future!!!!!!

Not A Y.J. parent and I know this is none of m business, If Burt wants to build the future of Mt. S he should do it at Mt.S and not on Y.J. time. Just by the quote "he wants to build the future for Mt. S"', as a non Mt. S parent of a kid on that team, i would demand Carol take my kid off that team and put her on a comparable (i.e. blue) team. You know that he will favor his girls and use the others as fodder.

You can't be from ESM because what you're stating is no where near the truth. They are a well-respected family and there is no fear at all. The player is a great teammate, friend and one of the nicest kids out there. She deserves to be where she is and everyone in this town knows it. How dare you come here and say most of the parents and team are aware and feel that way. That is so completely untrue. Sick over it? Please. The only thing sick is that you will come on here and make up lies about an amazing athlete and group whatever jealousy you may be feeling into the whole team feeling the same way. They are back to back county champs in large part because of her and I would be very surprised to hear anyone say they didn't believe that were the case. You say you're stating facts - based on what? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Not A Y.J. parent and I know this is none of m business, If Burt wants to build the future of Mt. S he should do it at Mt.S and not on Y.J. time. Just by the quote "he wants to build the future for Mt. S"', as a non Mt. S parent of a kid on that team, i would demand Carol take my kid off that team and put her on a comparable (i.e. blue) team. You know that he will favor his girls and use the others as fodder.

carro.....look what carro did to Lindy.

Well......you obviously are on their fan club board of directors but make no mistake, most are disgusted by the blatant favoritism. I'm sure the player is a great kid, they usually are, but the situation created by the powers that be are what everyone says is wrong with youth sports. Maybe you should talk to more of the parents and find out for yourself. Again, I never brought the players personal integrity into this....you did. I repeated the sentiment stated a thousand times before about politics and fear. Alive and well in this case.

Not A Y.J. parent and I know this is none of m business, If Burt wants to build the future of Mt. S he should do it at Mt.S and not on Y.J. time. Just by the quote "he wants to build the future for Mt. S"', as a non Mt. S parent of a kid on that team, i would demand Carol take my kid off that team and put her on a comparable (i.e. blue) team. You know that he will favor his girls and use the others as fodder.

... but as long as CR is good with gag order in effect on all.

This is absolutely the truth in YJ land, Mt.S kids are being forced down the throats of YJ by "Bert" and "Fire Fighter Bill" for the benefit of Mt. S High School program! People are sick of it they have the biggest influence on all of the rosters from 2015 down; but as long as CR is good with gag order in effect on all. The problem is "fire fighter Bill" isn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut. Maybe that's why TG has cut the gap at the lower ages. Mt. S going to states and YJ becoming just another club

You might want to check your sources in the Northport Booster Club on that one.

Ok. Well we will agree to disagree - I just wonder what these "complainers" will do once their children go off to college. Just look at the goalie's resume/bio and not sure what anyone could complain about. And you're right, her personal integrity should never have been brought into it, my point was there are some that walk around with an air of entitlement and I've never seen anything but hard work and determination from her as an athlete. She is the kind of athlete she is because she works hard not because of who her father is.

You might want to check your sources in the Northport Booster Club on that one.

Speaking of checking sources, rumour is that CR is pushing hard for the St. Anthony's girls lax position that recently became available, what are you hearing Sage?

Speaking of checking sources, rumour is that CR is pushing hard for the St. Anthony's girls lax position that recently became available, what are you hearing Sage?

Nothing that we can share at this time.

Just like she pushed for the Hofstra job? Truth is she's not that great of a coach. It's easy to just throw a bunch if really big, strong athletes on the field in club lacrosse and win due to numbers. However, she has won only one state championship in her career. She was able to do that because all of her Northport girls are forced to play YJ's year round for her.

The funny thing is I have seen the Bill Smith Email from last year telling his parents to stay of this site , I have never heard of Carol Rose even talking about this website and yeas my daughter is a YJ. Not saying I disagree w Bill but I always read these TG posters talking about CR gag order.

Again you keep bringing her personal integrity, resume etc into this. Clearly not my point. My point quite simply is her "handlers" for lack of a better word are using politics and fear to discriminate against other players both older and younger. When players are put into these situations and the adults do not listen to the masses then the players feel a sense of entitlement only to be devastated in college when Daddy isn't there to make it all better. I wish only the best for these athletes and hope the adults gain the wisdom to guide them.

The funny thing is I have seen the Bill Smith Email from last year telling his parents to stay of this site , I have never heard of Carol Rose even talking about this website and yeas my daughter is a YJ. Not saying I disagree w Bill but I always read these TG posters talking about CR gag order.

The Masses? LMAO! Who are these "Masses"? I am not from ESM , but all the "Masses" I know consider her the BEST goalie on Long Island with the Shoreham girl a close second. I don't get why this girl gets scrutinized so much on this board. It has to be jealousy! She is a GREAT player and a better kid an student. She is everything you would want your kid to become! No I am not her dad and yes I am definitely part of the fan club!! Grow up!!! btw who was discriminated against? That is a strong word! There was a 2014 goalie playing 2013,so they made her the 2014 goalie. The 2015 goalies all got bumped up a spot and all got scholarships! All great kids and players. Where is the foul?