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The amount of WINS doesn't mean anything at this age for all 2017 teams, its about getting noticed by the colleges. Learn the process before you talk stupid.

A famous Herm Edwards quote: "You play to win the game!"

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A famous Herm Edwards quote: "You play to win the game!"

I love Herm Edwards but in regards to this, "You play to win a slot on a college roster"

And look where that got him.....

A famous Herm Edwards quote: "You play to win the game!"

Herm Edwards was a decent football player, awful coach, and is dreadful on ESPN. You need to figure it out for your son. The posters are 100 percent right. College coaches care nothing of scores. In fact, many coaches are showing more interest in individual showcase events. Kids on random teams, a true representation of lax IQ and skill sets. I assure you, they really don't care about the score of showcase games. I will give you that coaches do check out teams that are winning a lot at a tournament, to see what the buzz is all about. However, if your son is not a major contributor on such a team, it could actually hurt him.

You must be joking about not playing to win. It's not a scrimmage like college fall ball where everyone plays and no score is kept. New flash - it's called a game and if you want your son on a team that doesn't play to win then why bother playing summer lax at all. Save your money and your time. You should find another, less competitive, way to showcase your sons playing ability.

Wow. You are a really uninformed dope! You think a college coach cares who won the game? They are looking at individual effort. You certainly want to be on a competitive team but winning means zero!!!

And look where that got him.....at the 2017 age, you are looking to get exposure to college coaches, not necessarily win. Teams should be shooting for getting the boys exposure, which generally means equal playing time so all boys have an opporutnity to be seen.

Not one person said they are not playing to win. The point is that it doesn't matter who wins as long as you are competitive and you showcase your talents. College coaches rarely stay for a whole game and they really don't care what the score is.

If anyone takes the time to search the internet, look for the Herm Edwards keynote address at the US Lacrosse National Conference from two years back. Watch the video of his presentation and then argue about the applicability of his lessons to youth sports. If you believe that he was an awful coach, perhaps we need to rethink what "coaching" is all about.

Anyone know how good Millon Force is going to be?

PRESUMABLY....

winning teams go further in tourneys - leads to
playing against incredible competition - leads to
more exposure to college coaches there watching both teams - leads to
potential top tier colleges

and I forgot to mention that the teams that win a lot, for the most part, have coaches that can pick up a phone and contact most colleges coaches BECAUSE of having teams that win.

And look where that got him.....at the 2017 age, you are looking to get exposure to college coaches, not necessarily win. Teams should be shooting for getting the boys exposure, which generally means equal playing time so all boys have an opporutnity to be seen.

Expecting more exposure to college coaches since they are watching both teams demonstrates a misunderstanding of the recruiting process.

College coaches attend games to which they are both invited and where they have particular players that they have been invited to see. College coaches do not randomly show up at a youth game, championship or otherwise, hoping to just pick up a couple of players cold.

Planning your recruiting cycle on the premise that a coach will just notice your son (or daughter) because they have made a tournament finals will lead to failure. Researching your Top Ten Academic and Top Ten Athletic choices, writing to those coaches, and tracking their attendance at your games, championships or otherwise, will yield higher quality results.

Also, your correlation that only winning club coaches can contact college coaches is clearly an error. For every winning team, there is a losing team on the national or regional stage. Certainly, college coaches will recruit from both pools simply because they are recruiting players not teams. Think about it.

Actually, my son was noticed at a few different games by coaches who we did not contact as a Freshman. We didn't even know at the time that he should even be contacting coaches. From there we visited these schools and then accepted a great offer to a top D1 program. I know of other kids who had it happen the same way.

equal playing time?? how funny would it be if every kid had a turn playing the lead role in their hs musical? Thanks for making me laugh.

You just don't get it. It's a recruiting showcase! Everyone gets seen.
It's like the audition for your musical!

Great analogy. Many teams when hitting the recruiting trail tell their players "if you feel you're not getting enough play time or a short shift, let us (coaches) know we'll make sure you get time". Also, teams will give players more time even over more skilled players when they know a coach is there to see a specific player. Why would any parent pay to be on a team, regardless of how good it is, if the kid is not playing in front of the coaches? It's all about playing good competition and playing time. It's about getting exposure in front of the college coaches. This is why you're seeing more and more growth in the individual showcases and college specific prospect and clinic days. If you're worried about W-L, go to the 2020-2022 threads, seems like you're more in tune with that crowd.

Please List the fall tournaments that are the Real top recruiting, that play to a champion.
I believe it is ZERO

We all know the top a division teams like express 91 true blue fl$ jesters outlaws etc.

but what are the top b division teams for 2017?

PRESUMABLY....

winning teams go further in tourneys - leads to
playing against incredible competition - leads to
more exposure to college coaches there watching both teams - leads to
potential top tier colleges

and I forgot to mention that the teams that win a lot, for the most part, have coaches that can pick up a phone and contact most colleges coaches BECAUSE of having teams that win.

Jesters a top A team? That's hysterical!

Jesters a top A team? That's hysterical!

stop saying colleges dont care... cause if you cant win, your club's players won't be seen in the first place.... no tourny invite... get it??

THEY DON'T CARE.

You two are like two ships passing in the night. You are both probably correct. Coaches don't care about the actual score or record of a team but they do care about seeing kids play against the best competition (e.g., the other best kids). This can only happen if the team does well overall or has a great reputation and can make it to the most competitive tournaments. I can tell you first hand, for example, coaches will watch Crabs play Dukes.