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Team LI also in the mix. Should be fun.

mitchell starting at 10

Would Team LI stop shooting their mouths off that 91 dodged them last year. Seriously you're embarrassing yourselves. 91 has their tournaments on the website early enough and did most of the same tournaments as the year before. So come and join them.
What changed? Team LI decided to go U. The industry is going grade based if you haven't noticed. Stop crying that everyone is cheating already. 91 played bigger (older) grade based teams and didn't cry about it, even after losing one of them. It's all about good lacrosse, win or lose.
91 played the best teams in the country last year at various tournaments. Played Express 3 or 4 times, who handily beat Team LI in the winter. Why would 91 be dodging you????

Ok. Who cares?
How did the games go yesterday? That was a good group of teams. Son not on any of those teams. Just wondering how they went? No negativity here, just the father of a 2018 with general lacrosse interest. Thx.

365 8-6 over terps , TLI 13-3 over terps.

Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?

No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!

Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15

Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15

Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15

Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15

There are 5 8th graders on the u15 team. I know one of the players. The rest are in 9th grade. Fact!

Terps got beat in every game...My son is on the team and the boys (mine included) didn't play well. Sloppy and slow. Some days the ball doesnt bounce your way.

Lost to 91, dukes, 365 and Team li. First time in our 4 years to have lost 4 in a row...

Boys never quit so so that sloppy play will be a lesson to them.

Great competition and importantly, all parents and kids were well behaved...

Wondering if that was a mixed team for the Terps? Looked to have some smaller kids on the team. I know some of the regulars were there, while I noticed at least one pole missing from last year.

This conversation is very repetitive but always entertaining

Rules governing US Lacrosse - U-14 does not exist but often U-15B is assumed to be U-14

Age based event - grade does not matter and team is placed based on age of oldest player

Grade based event - grade does not matter team is placed based on highest grade of its players

Informal playday - coaches have evaluated each other's squads and agree that the scrimmaging is in the best interest of the participants of both teams (perhaps with knowledge of each other's irregular roster players)

In all events tournament directors have accountability to enforce rules and allowance to slightly bend them. Within reason this happens everywhere (especially Maryland - LOL) - once a tournament director decides it is okay for a given team to play in a given bracket, that team is no longer playing down regardless of what the bracket is called.

Alternatively, if a club or parent were to misrepresent the age and/or grade of their players and work outside the rules, they are creating an unsafe playing field and opening themselves up to accuastions of fraud and in the extreme reckless endangerment

No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!

This conversation is very repetitive but always entertaining

Rules governing US Lacrosse - U-14 does not exist but often U-15B is assumed to be U-14

Age based event - grade does not matter and team is placed based on age of oldest player

Grade based event - grade does not matter team is placed based on highest grade of its players

Informal playday - coaches have evaluated each other's squads and agree that the scrimmaging is in the best interest of the participants of both teams (perhaps with knowledge of each other's irregular roster players)

In all events tournament directors have accountability to enforce rules and allowance to slightly bend them. Within reason this happens everywhere (especially Maryland - LOL) - once a tournament director decides it is okay for a given team to play in a given bracket, that team is no longer playing down regardless of what the bracket is called.

Alternatively, if a club or parent were to misrepresent the age and/or grade of their players and work outside the rules, they are creating an unsafe playing field and opening themselves up to accuastions of fraud and in the extreme reckless endangerment

Not even close to same level!!

Really? as who?

How did they do?

The age versus grade discussion was a big topic at Kellenberg yesterday - here are a few thoughts:

1. 2018 LI club teams are basically grade based. TLI has a handful of 9th graders, but they are young ninth graders. Express apparently has a couple of ninth graders too. Whether they do or don't isn't my point - my point is that when 91/TLI/Express play, kids are basically the same age; the disputes can be measured in months and whether someone stayed back by a month or two. It's one of the best things about LI lax - it is a pretty fair playing field on the issue of age.

2. The rest of the lax world - Baltimore, Philadelphia, Boston to name three spots - is also grade based, but many of those kids go to private schools and stay back a year or start formal schooling later. Anyone who watched the 8th grade Dukes team play any of the other teams yesterday could have seen this. Apparently there are four 1998 birthdate 8th graders on that team. They were very mature and much larger than Express, 91 or Superstar - it was really obvious.

3. US Lacrosse may want age based lacrosse, but the world is going grade based. College coaches don't care how old you are - they care what grade you're in.

4. So what does it mean? Well, if you play for a LI club team, be prepared to be playing against older kids when you leave the island. The age discrepancies between the big LI clubs are way less than they are between LI clubs and those of other metropolitan areas. When LI clubs play against Dukes, Crabs and Laxachusetts they are playing against older kids, and it's only going to get worse.





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They beat the Terps (2018) 13-3 so I think that qualifies them to being " close to the same level".

Our team is mostly born in 2000 and we play as 2018, under your logic we should be entering them in girls 2019 tournaments because if we held him back like they do in Maryland and they didn't have testicles they would be a 2019 girls

Not to make excuses for the terps poor play, but when they played Team LI, it was their fourth game of the day and tha one was on no rest. So they played, 91 at 10, dukes at 12, 365 at 2 and then team LI at 3pm

team LI didnt play any other games and all other terp games were at least games.

Nothing taken away from team LI, they are a good solid team and can compete with anyone, but dont let the 13-3 score go to your heads...

If they have 9th graders on team, and are as competitive as you say, and it appears, they should play 2017. They shouldn't be playing 2018 teams or 8th grade brackets.