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Where do the majority of kids get recruited in the MIAA? From actual high school games, big money show cases (seem like a money grab for most), club games, prospect days? IMO and in order: 1) High school 2) Club Team 3) Prospect Days 4) Showcases Seen many 25s and 26s get recruited who have never seen field at their HS: The real answer is: Clubs Personal network/Family name/nepotism Prospect Days HS Showcases Switch 1 and 2. Connections always come first. If you dont have grades as one of the things that will get your child recruited, you will be in for a surprise and choosing from the bottom third of D1 programs. As well as getting minimal aid unless your son is a 4 or 5 star.
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Parent of 8th grader currently at an MIAA "A" division private. We are poking around other schools for high school to make sure we are making the right choice. In addition to talking to coaches, we've been attending the various schools "prospect days". We've been to Loyola Blakefield, Calvert Hall and Gilman thus far. I'm not sure how much recruiting is going on outside of those prospect days but the turnout at a couple were awful. I don't know how these other schools are going to compete. Most of the 8th grade top talent is either currently at or planning on attending Spalding, Boys Latin, St. Paul's and Calvert Hall. Cupboard looks pretty thin at Gilman, McDonogh, Loyola Blakefield and Severn. The answer to your question is "0-6 freshmen on varsity per year, and 2-3 of them will actually get decent reps." Your son will almost assuredly not get varsity reps as a freshman if he is on-age. And why would you want him to? The majority of MIAA-A varsity starters are already 19, or will turn 19 in the next 45 days. Take the JV reps. The other answer is that every year is different at every school. It's quite the moving target and you have to understand that the school needs to pass your son's "broken leg test" because there could come a day when lax is not his biggest focus. I know the Loyola prospect days last year (2028s and 2029s) each had 100+ players attending, most of them 2029s. Lax coaching tenure is about 4 years which means each head coach is on a different part of their own journey/career. Also each school's (and donors) appetite for giving out athletic scholarships comes and goes. Loyola 2029 has got half or more of the Crabs (#16 nationally) and half of Predators (#89 nationally) already enrolled and almost all will stay. Plus they'll recruit a few but not many. Overall it's gonna be a strong class. Yes, knowing Loyola, the admin/executive staff/mega donors will somehow screw it up. My take on the overall 2028 class: Loyola - Meh, 3 great recruits and kept all their MS players who didn't reclass to another school. Gilman - Dangerously weak, lots of scholarships offered with few takers. Spalding - Good mix....Hawks kids, but also beaucoups utility players from the Insta Clippers/True Glen Burnie, MDLL's random team. St. Pauls - biggest surprise of the 2028 class. Attracted TONS of talent from in state and out of state, esp. from the Calv Hall and Loyola feeder schools McDonogh - recruited kids from across the country, and will keep bringing in new 2028s for the next 3.5 years. Severn - I mean their recruiting radius is like 7 miles so.... St. Marys - Upside, your kid will play varsity. Downside, it will probably be a bad and chaotic time. John Carroll - Upside, your kid will play varsity. Downside, the program has trouble getting wind in its sails, even w new head coach. MSJ - Upside, your kid will learn to punch NFL fans in the street, on a 15 day coke bender, and play with public school kids from Arbutus. BL - picked up the starting line up of the relatively talented HLC AA/AAA club, and tons of crab kids. Great analysis of the 28 class. I'd add that McDonogh's top 28's are local kids (goalie, mid and left attack). Also, BL brought in a larger than normal group of borders for 28. That class is loaded with talent. In regards to the 29 class, the majority of the Crabs team and most of the top players are at BL and STP. Also, that team was ranked 60 last year. The top players in the 29 class are either already at or will likely attend Boys Latin, Calvert Hall, St. Pauls and Spalding. But it really doesn't matter for the 29's. The 28 class is so dominant that 29 kids are going to struggle for playing time through most of their high school career. “ The majority of MIAA-A varsity starters are already 19, or will turn 19 in the next 45 days. Take the JV reps.” LOL in NY we call a 19 yr old a College Sophomore! Sure, Jan. Joey Spallina was born on June 4, 2003 and graduated from HS as a 19 year old. He redshirted in 2023 (turned 20 at the end of spring semester) and at the end of his RS freshman year, he turned 21. At the end of his eligibility he'll turn 24. So tell me more about these on age 19 year old NY college athletes that I'm sure are major D1 impact players. Spallina played his freshman year in 2023. Was ACC rookie of year and HM all-american Yes but he did also play 5 years in high school and should have graduated in 21 and not 22 He was older player always, as his dad knew that is what it takes to compete at a high level. Joey wasnt that big and needed the extra years to get bigger and stronger. Pretty simple. As above, there is a reason why being older helps. Wait until these players have kids starting to play lacrosse. They will ALL be holdbacks. No need to wait, Everyone that has been involved with lacrosse and has children have been doing it for years now. Any former player with a boy in an MIAA school has been held back. They know the drill. From what I have seen as a club coach, holding back often works when it comes to recruiting time. But if the player isnt a difference maker as a holdback I think it actually harms them.as the coaches expect more.
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Why did St. Mary’s let a couple of freshmen play on Varsity? It insulting to returning players to do this before tryouts.
St Mary’s 1-2 on the day. Losing to public school. Think they fired the wrong coach. I’m not a St. Mary’s parent nor a fan but give it a rest. It’s fall ball. A lot of those schools have some of their committed players playing. A ton of kids are hurt. Good Lord.[/quote][/quote] So they can’t transfer unless they sit out a year.
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Why did St. Mary’s let a couple of freshmen play on Varsity? It insulting to returning players to do this before tryouts.
St Mary’s 1-2 on the day. Losing to public school. Think they fired the wrong coach. I’m not a St. Mary’s parent nor a fan but give it a rest. It’s fall ball. A lot of those schools have some of their committed players playing. A ton of kids are hurt. Good Lord.[/quote][/quote] Several schools had freshman play with varsity, especially when they did not enter a JV team. It’s a good way to watch them in a competitive environment not just at tryouts.
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Why did St. Mary’s let a couple of freshmen play on Varsity? It insulting to returning players to do this before tryouts.
St Mary’s 1-2 on the day. Losing to public school. Think they fired the wrong coach. I’m not a St. Mary’s parent nor a fan but give it a rest. It’s fall ball. A lot of those schools have some of their committed players playing. A ton of kids are hurt. Good Lord. [/quote] Several schools had freshman play with varsity, especially when they did not enter a JV team. It’s a good way to watch them in a competitive environment not just at tryouts.[/quote] Because the parents of those freshman have told the current coaches, PLAY our kids, or we will leave. St Mary's is going to @ChillLaxin for years to come.
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Why did St. Mary’s let a couple of freshmen play on Varsity? It insulting to returning players to do this before tryouts.
St Mary’s 1-2 on the day. Losing to public school. Think they fired the wrong coach. I’m not a St. Mary’s parent nor a fan but give it a rest. It’s fall ball. A lot of those schools have some of their committed players playing. A ton of kids are hurt. Good Lord. Several schools had freshman play with varsity, especially when they did not enter a JV team. It’s a good way to watch them in a competitive environment not just at tryouts. Can we get off of STM . They will be a bottom feeder for the next few years. It will take time to put that dumpster fire out. Lets move onto some good teams, Spalding, McD, BL , CH , even Gilly and St Paul. Maybe start another thread for the Bottom feeders and Dumpster fires.
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Why did St. Mary’s let a couple of freshmen play on Varsity? It insulting to returning players to do this before tryouts.
St Mary’s 1-2 on the day. Losing to public school. Think they fired the wrong coach. I’m not a St. Mary’s parent nor a fan but give it a rest. It’s fall ball. A lot of those schools have some of their committed players playing. A ton of kids are hurt. Good Lord. [/quote] Several schools had freshman play with varsity, especially when they did not enter a JV team. It’s a good way to watch them in a competitive environment not just at tryouts.[/quote] Dumpster fire begins at STM. Thanks Daltons!
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Why did St. Mary’s let a couple of freshmen play on Varsity? It insulting to returning players to do this before tryouts.
St Mary’s 1-2 on the day. Losing to public school. Think they fired the wrong coach. I’m not a St. Mary’s parent nor a fan but give it a rest. It’s fall ball. A lot of those schools have some of their committed players playing. A ton of kids are hurt. Good Lord. [/quote] Several schools had freshman play with varsity, especially when they did not enter a JV team. It’s a good way to watch them in a competitive environment not just at tryouts.[/quote] Heard Coach played the freshman to send a message to the existing entitled players and parents. If they are going to lose with the existing below average players, might as well play the kids who haven’t been tainted yet. Turning a new leaf, it’s going to be earned and behavior and off field actions are being taking into account.
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TOXIC culture at Calvert Hall is permeating through the athletic department and it starts with the leadership at this school. Athletic Director and coaching staffs have created a culture of entitlement with zero accountability. The stories pouring out about the lacrosse team (are you kidding me bringing the senior goalie back) and bullying of athletes from other sports by the football team is running rampant. Calvert Hall has lost its way and it’s win at all costs; the problem is there has been very little winning lately! Changes are needed across the board but unfortunately will never happen with Mulford/Kelly running the show for the entire athletic department.
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Why did the goalie get asked to leave in the first place? And now he is back? I know he went to a boarding school in Va. to play. Weird senario.
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Why did St. Mary’s let a couple of freshmen play on Varsity? It insulting to returning players to do this before tryouts.
St Mary’s 1-2 on the day. Losing to public school. Think they fired the wrong coach. I’m not a St. Mary’s parent nor a fan but give it a rest. It’s fall ball. A lot of those schools have some of their committed players playing. A ton of kids are hurt. Good Lord. Several schools had freshman play with varsity, especially when they did not enter a JV team. It’s a good way to watch them in a competitive environment not just at tryouts.[/quote] Heard Coach played the freshman to send a message to the existing entitled players and parents. If they are going to lose with the existing below average players, might as well play the kids who haven’t been tainted yet. Turning a new leaf, it’s going to be earned and behavior and off field actions are being taking into account.[/quote] Winning in MD means recruiting and not playing entitled players. Last year they let their sr goalie start because of whose son he was. I'm not for completely benching players but make clear what they're contributing and not doing well.
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TOXIC culture at Calvert Hall is permeating through the athletic department and it starts with the leadership at this school. Athletic Director and coaching staffs have created a culture of entitlement with zero accountability. The stories pouring out about the lacrosse team (are you kidding me bringing the senior goalie back) and bullying of athletes from other sports by the football team is running rampant. Calvert Hall has lost its way and it’s win at all costs; the problem is there has been very little winning lately! Changes are needed across the board but unfortunately will never happen with Mulford/Kelly running the show for the entire athletic department.
Money Talks Morality Walks Well, we all know who runs the show there. Yes, first order is relatives , then friends. After that there is competition. Lot of rumors lately about culture, most not good
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TOXIC culture at Calvert Hall is permeating through the athletic department and it starts with the leadership at this school. Athletic Director and coaching staffs have created a culture of entitlement with zero accountability. The stories pouring out about the lacrosse team (are you kidding me bringing the senior goalie back) and bullying of athletes from other sports by the football team is running rampant. Calvert Hall has lost its way and it’s win at all costs; the problem is there has been very little winning lately! Changes are needed across the board but unfortunately will never happen with Mulford/Kelly running the show for the entire athletic department.
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TOXIC culture at Calvert Hall is permeating through the athletic department and it starts with the leadership at this school. Athletic Director and coaching staffs have created a culture of entitlement with zero accountability. The stories pouring out about the lacrosse team (are you kidding me bringing the senior goalie back) and bullying of athletes from other sports by the football team is running rampant. Calvert Hall has lost its way and it’s win at all costs; the problem is there has been very little winning lately! Changes are needed across the board but unfortunately will never happen with Mulford/Kelly running the show for the entire athletic department.
Money Talks Morality Walks Still time to transfer before tryouts. Good luck to your son.
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TOXIC culture at Calvert Hall is permeating through the athletic department and it starts with the leadership at this school. Athletic Director and coaching staffs have created a culture of entitlement with zero accountability. The stories pouring out about the lacrosse team (are you kidding me bringing the senior goalie back) and bullying of athletes from other sports by the football team is running rampant. Calvert Hall has lost its way and it’s win at all costs; the problem is there has been very little winning lately! Changes are needed across the board but unfortunately will never happen with Mulford/Kelly running the show for the entire athletic department.
Money Talks Morality Walks Well, we all know who runs the show there. Yes, first order is relatives , then friends. After that there is competition. Lot of rumors lately about culture, most not good My sons went to CH 10 years ago and I wouldn't send them there right now. Too many kids. And too many stories on the lax side. I think they are trying to grow enrollment again and just letting anyone in.
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TOXIC culture at Calvert Hall is permeating through the athletic department and it starts with the leadership at this school. Athletic Director and coaching staffs have created a culture of entitlement with zero accountability. The stories pouring out about the lacrosse team (are you kidding me bringing the senior goalie back) and bullying of athletes from other sports by the football team is running rampant. Calvert Hall has lost its way and it’s win at all costs; the problem is there has been very little winning lately! Changes are needed across the board but unfortunately will never happen with Mulford/Kelly running the show for the entire athletic department.
Money Talks Morality Walks Enjoy being a Curley Friar Based on the established culture at Calvert Hall, Curley would be the better alternative. Sad how far this school has fallen. I heard the kids that bullied another classmate were still on the team and played in the Turkey Bowl. Zero Accountability and Zero Winning. Fun how those go hand in hand.
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TOXIC culture at Calvert Hall is permeating through the athletic department and it starts with the leadership at this school. Athletic Director and coaching staffs have created a culture of entitlement with zero accountability. The stories pouring out about the lacrosse team (are you kidding me bringing the senior goalie back) and bullying of athletes from other sports by the football team is running rampant. Calvert Hall has lost its way and it’s win at all costs; the problem is there has been very little winning lately! Changes are needed across the board but unfortunately will never happen with Mulford/Kelly running the show for the entire athletic department.
Money Talks Morality Walks Enjoy being a Curley Friar Based on the established culture at Calvert Hall, Curley would be the better alternative. Sad how far this school has fallen. I heard the kids that bullied another classmate were still on the team and played in the Turkey Bowl. Zero Accountability and Zero Winning. Fun how those go hand in hand. CH is another school that is fighting for students and money. Their standards are very low now to get in. You get what you get. To many schollys to students that should not be there. Why they are still there sends a message, not a good one.
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Heard the same thing about Loyola. Alums are in an uproar about the culture and bullying. Admin doing nothing about it.
Side note - Wonder what the CHC goalie did to get the boot and be brought back, but also have Air Force take him. He played for Chc then blue ridge (Va) and now CHC? Something strange there or there is nothing at all.
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Disappointing for the other 11 goalies in the program.
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Why did St. Mary’s let a couple of freshmen play on Varsity? It insulting to returning players to do this before tryouts.
St Mary’s 1-2 on the day. Losing to public school. Think they fired the wrong coach. I’m not a St. Mary’s parent nor a fan but give it a rest. It’s fall ball. A lot of those schools have some of their committed players playing. A ton of kids are hurt. Good Lord. Several schools had freshman play with varsity, especially when they did not enter a JV team. It’s a good way to watch them in a competitive environment not just at tryouts. Heard Coach played the freshman to send a message to the existing entitled players and parents. If they are going to lose with the existing below average players, might as well play the kids who haven’t been tainted yet. Turning a new leaf, it’s going to be earned and behavior and off field actions are being taking into account.[/quote] Winning in MD means recruiting and not playing entitled players. Last year they let their sr goalie start because of whose son he was. I'm not for completely benching players but make clear what they're contributing and not doing well.[/quote] New staff seems to be adding gasoline to the dumpster fire already. How long til the principal steps in and makes them start his son on varsity?
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