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Dukes Mamba carved up the competition this weekend boys. On track to be one of the top teams in country for 2031 class. New kids from Mesa, JE and HHH were the missing pieces.

Glad you stated it so clearly!!! Yes, Dukes needs to bring in kids from other programs to show improvement. No such thing as coaching up the kids, just bring in the ringers from other programs. If you are looking to win middle school tourneys, show up to Dukes. If you are looking to improve your player through training and coaching, head on over to these other progrums.

The Duke’s club sold their soul to BPG - all Dad coaches who recruit kids over, can’t coach for the life of them.
But, at least they don’t have to share the money BPG pays them. Anyone ever ask why the same Duke’s coaches all coach different age groups? Amateur hour over there, enjoy it while you can

This form has turned into two 31 programs bashing each other haha! Great for the sport!

Agreed. There kids won't even play in 3 years.

Every year is the #1 team in the area (Dukes) and the haters (other clubs). Dukes has the top team in every year but the 29s (Dukes #2). Must really frustrate you non Dukes dads. Keep grinding

Weird that the Turddogs also brought in new kids from Mesa, JE, and even Texas. Also head coached by a Dad. Mamba HC not a dad. Hmmm.

From what I can see, it’s the 29 Dukes that should be concerned…noticed a number of their helmets at HHH tournament. Boys must’ve realized the grass wasn’t greener leaving NXT

Duke's does not have all Dads coaching the teams, not sure where you saw that. They have a very solid coaching staff.

Birddog dad here. This is out of control. Too much nonsense on both sides. It’s two great local competitive clubs with boys that are friendly on and off the field. Dukes has won the last 3 matchups and we’re looking forward to more healthy competition in the spring. Stop making more of it than it is.

List the Duke’s teams by age and coach…that should solve the issue

Enough already with 6th graders. 27’s are on the clock as far as recruiting goes. Who has looked good so far this fall?

Team Ten 2027 is the best local 2027 team. Morsell, Luchovich and French on that team are some of the top recruits in the entire class. All three were getting legitimate varsity minutes on the top teams in the Inter Ac as freshmen.

HHH 27 have some nice top end talent as well. A few have seen significant minutes in the Inter-Ac as freshmen as well. They aren’t loaded across the board, but some bright spots to pay attention to this year.

Any update from freedom and/or BL’s teams??
These are the yrs they start building competitive teams, right? I know Freedom’s 28s are strong.

Morsell started most of or the entire year at attack for Haverford School and Luchovich started some of the year at attack for Malvern. Both impressive feats for freshmen especially since they were holding their own and putting points on the board against top competition nationally.

17 year old freshmen.

Close 15

Freshman
Did they call you an Meanyhole freshman or was being in 9th grade called being a freshman even for you?

2024 inter-ac All-League Team
Paul Bruder Team 10 EA
Gavin Cooper HHH HS
Lucca DiBartolomeo BL MP
Peri DiBartolomeo BL MP
Aydan DiRocco MESA HS
Kellen Gardner MESA HS
Charlie Halpert HHH HS
Finn Lawrence NXT HS
Jack Long BL HS
Ben McCarthy Freedom HS
Evan MacFarland Team Ten EA
Owen Mears HHH MP
Gavin Michener HHH PC
Brody Murphy Team Ten HS
Connor Nolen NXT HS
Mike Ortlieb HHH MP
Stevie Pileggi NXT SCH
Ross Prince Freedom SCH
Hayes Schreiner HHH SCH
Alec Tulio HHH SCH
Logan Turley HHH MP
Ennis Udo Freedom MP
Nick Wehmeyer BL MP
Kyle Worsnup Freedom MP


Obviously there are some other really talented kids on Lasalle that mostly play for HHH but doesn’t this list make the which are the top HS clubs an easy conversation? Why are parent discussing MS club teams. All the talented kids leave anyway

Where the Dukes players?

Now do All American and All State (EPSLA) that includes both private and public players. Looks a little different eh? Lots of Mesa, Dukes, etc kids included with the BL, HHH, TT.

All American Philadelphia region
Hunter Aquino, Academy of the New Church
Brian Box, Marple Newtown
Gavin Cooper, Haverford School
Stevie Davis, La Salle
Lucca DiBartolomeo, Malvern Prep
Tyler Gougler, Springfield-Delco
Matt Jacobsen, Central Bucks West
Owen Knight, Radnor
Nate Lucchesi, Radnor
Benjamin McCarthy, Haverford School
Gavin Michener, Penn Charter
Connor Nolen, Haverford School
Michael Savadove, Radnor
Hayes Schreiner, Springside Chestnut Hill
Paul Van Bastalaar, La Salle
Max Wickersham, La Salle
Matthew Wills, La Salle


All-EPLCA

All-Eastern Pennsylvania Lacrosse Coaches Association

ATTACK
Hunter Aquino, Academy of the New Church
Aydan DiRocco, Haverford School
Owen Knight, Radnor
Gavin Michener, Penn Charter
Tyler Gougler, Springfield-Delco
Ennis Udo, Malvern Prep
Michael Ortlieb, Malvern Prep
Teddy Fenlin, St. Joseph’s Prep
Brady Welsh, Spring-Ford
Max Wickersham, La Salle
MIDFIELD
Justin Besz, Upper Merion
Brian Box Marple, Newtown
Peri DiBartolomeo, Malvern Prep
Matt Jacobsen, Central Bucks West
Jack Long, Haverford School
Nate Lucchesi, Radnor
Owen Mears, Malvern Prep
Connor Nolen, Haverford School
Nate Pechin, Bayard Rustin
Logan Turley, Malvern Prep
Luke Valerio, Springfield-Delco
Paul Van Bastelaar, La Salle
DEFENSE
Patrick Coleman, Central Bucks East
Gavin Cooper, Haverford School
Billy Henderson, Springfield-Delco
Evan McFarland, Episcopal Academy
Michael Savadove, Radnor
Gavin Seaman, Bayard Rustin
Andrew Van Stone, La Salle
Kyle Worsnup, Malvern Prep
Matthew Wills, La Salle
LONG STICK MIDFIELD
David Bertoline, Marple Newtown
Aharon Bloshuk, Academy of the New Church
Lucca DiBartolomeo, Malvern Prep
Logan Missert, La Salle
FOM
Justin Daubert, Owen J. Roberts
Stevie Davis, La Salle
Kai Lopez, Garnet Valley
Benjamin McCarthy, Haverford School
Ross Prince, Springside Chestnut Hill
GOALIE
Brody Murphy, Haverford School
Matt Nelson, La Salle
Hayes Schreiner, Springside Chestnut Hill

HHH is GOAT! Those 24’s and 25’s really set the bar for what you can expect from the 26’s 27’s and 28’s
Tons of top tier D1 talent on these rosters

2025 HHH class is an outlier. That team is probably tied with or right behind PrimeTime, Team 91 LI & Team 91 MD for the best club team in the 2025 class from a recruitment perspective and from a level of play perspective when they have their entire team playing together, meaning when none of their players absent for whatever reason. No other HHH team is at the top of the class like the 2025 class is. Stop trying to lump the other HHH classes in with the 2025 class. Nobody is falling for that.

At the 2026 level Team Ten is the bar locally and nationally. At the 2027 level Team Ten is the bar locally and has the potential to be a top team in the nation but hasn't proven it yet. At the 2028 level Freedom is the bar locally and the Red Hots are proven nationally, but idk how much of their players are from the philly area, seems like it could be a national team with players from all over.

Maybe the 28’s but I have seen the 27s and the talent is not there

TT 26 is phenomenal(basically Tigers) with a great coaching staff. TT 27 has a lot of talent but hasn’t been able to put it together, I’ve heard they are on their third or fourth head coach in as many years, the offense is a mess and the inmates(parents) are running the asylum, not great in a recruiting year. RH just simply can’t be called a PA team. Freedom could be very good but they refuse to give them a real coach.

HHH 28? Bahahahaha

HHH drop off confirmed, they will have a couple tough years until their youth team mature. TT and Freedom set for a good run. I still think its comical to mention Dukes in the high school conversation but sure, they’re great.

Should be a fun day at NAL today for the high school clubs. All the big boys are playing today included the “real” NLF teams (at this point HHH is like the little brother coasting on the name of his big brother).

Dukes 28 just beat the socks off TT…. Dukes IS the club to beat

Duke’s 2030 wins the NAL again. If
this team stays together (and that’s a big if), they’ll be the next local power.

Dukes seems to be an every other year sort of club. 29s and 31s are the drop offs. 28s, 30s and 32s are Elite. If the 28s really just beat TT then it looks like them and Freedom are the teams to beat. Are HHH 28s in the mix?

HHH 28s were at NAL and, while they have a few okay players, comp was marginal and they went 1-2.
As I understand it, this is a new team so may take time but wasn’t impressed watching.
I talked to a Team Ten parent and she didn’t think that 28 team was good at all; said her son is the best player and he really shouldn’t be, not why they signed up. Expect more bumps in the road for them

BM had really really dropped the ball with his club and the parents are not happy. The only viable team is the birddogs at ‘31 because he has gone the extra mile to surround his offspring with talent. The 28’s are in fact entirely new. The 27’s have been terrible for most of their existence as have the 26’s.

Of course, he’ll draw in the parents who have blinders on. He’s a charismatic guy with a product that is well past its prime.

Agree and disagree, Dukes has some nice teams from 2034 to 2029 and so does HHH Mesa freedom.brotherly love is on there and delco dukes coming into them is strong.brotherly love with these programs with there north group where I’m sending my three kids or HHH.Depends on year and coach staff am I right ?

Uummm…what?