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Don't lump West Islip into this. The kids pay whatever the tournament entrance fee is and you only pay for the ones that you go to.


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Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.


How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.


You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference


On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).

The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.

And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.


Chaminade or St. Anthony's (or any private school) does not take kids based on where they play summer lacrosse. Kids are accepted based on how well they do on the Catholic School Entrance Exam. So if a kid was playing on Jesters, Outlaws, or 91 from 3rd grade through 8th grade - those two schools would not have had an impact on where a player plays during that time period.

However, when a HS coach is running a travel program that has a town bias like 32 and Liberty do in Manhasset, or like Yellow Jackets have in Northport, or like Ward Melville, West Islip and Northport on the boys side - then there is a conflict of interest. In many cases these same coaches are also teachers or phys ed teachers in the same schools. When you have current teachers wearing their club gear in school and also make "offhand comments" to kids about where they are playing, then that is a conflict of interest.

If a catholic scholl parent "feels" their kid will have a better chance of playing at Chaminade or St. Anthony's and they have their kid play for Express - well that isa decision to do so. It is not a decision that is forced on them. There are plenty of kids who play on other travel programs and still play at Chaminade of St. A's. However, at the public HS level - it is my opinion that is different and it is more of a conflict because our kids are not going to private school and they are definitely feeling the pressure to play for their coaches travel program.

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Why not lump West islip into it, for the youth grades you will also take players not from your town and for the HS years you will not let your top players (to avg players) play elsewhere. Then again why would top players want to play elsewhere.


Why doesn't Express have a presence at St John the Baptist? Could this be 91's or the new Legacy's chance to get a catholic HS on board with an organization.

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Also a serious conflict of interest with Danielle Gallagher, Manhasset GIRLS VARSITY coach and LIBERTY owner/director.


Saw her strutting around the other day at Manhasset in her Liberty jacket and sweats. Is she still a teacher there?

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Why not lump West islip into it, for the youth grades you will also take players not from your town and for the HS years you will not let your top players (to avg players) play elsewhere. Then again why would top players want to play elsewhere.


Why doesn't Express have a presence at St John the Baptist? Could this be 91's or the new Legacy's chance to get a catholic HS on board with an organization.
Didn't 91 run a jr. varsity summer team for St.John's a couple of summers back ? 91 supplied coaches and uniforms were St.John's colors, but said 91 on the front. Did something similar for Glenn H.S. too.

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Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.


How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.


You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference


On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).

The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.

And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.


Chaminade or St. Anthony's (or any private school) does not take kids based on where they play summer lacrosse. Kids are accepted based on how well they do on the Catholic School Entrance Exam. So if a kid was playing on Jesters, Outlaws, or 91 from 3rd grade through 8th grade - those two schools would not have had an impact on where a player plays during that time period.

However, when a HS coach is running a travel program that has a town bias like 32 and Liberty do in Manhasset, or like Yellow Jackets have in Northport, or like Ward Melville, West Islip and Northport on the boys side - then there is a conflict of interest. In many cases these same coaches are also teachers or phys ed teachers in the same schools. When you have current teachers wearing their club gear in school and also make "offhand comments" to kids about where they are playing, then that is a conflict of interest.

If a catholic scholl parent "feels" their kid will have a better chance of playing at Chaminade or St. Anthony's and they have their kid play for Express - well that isa decision to do so. It is not a decision that is forced on them. There are plenty of kids who play on other travel programs and still play at Chaminade of St. A's. However, at the public HS level - it is my opinion that is different and it is more of a conflict because our kids are not going to private school and they are definitely feeling the pressure to play for their coaches travel program.


There is not a single starter on St Anthony's JV or varsity that doesn't play for Express. It is an unwritten requirement and the pressure is huge to play for Express.

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Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.


How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.


You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference


On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).

The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.

And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.


Chaminade or St. Anthony's (or any private school) does not take kids based on where they play summer lacrosse. Kids are accepted based on how well they do on the Catholic School Entrance Exam. So if a kid was playing on Jesters, Outlaws, or 91 from 3rd grade through 8th grade - those two schools would not have had an impact on where a player plays during that time period.

However, when a HS coach is running a travel program that has a town bias like 32 and Liberty do in Manhasset, or like Yellow Jackets have in Northport, or like Ward Melville, West Islip and Northport on the boys side - then there is a conflict of interest. In many cases these same coaches are also teachers or phys ed teachers in the same schools. When you have current teachers wearing their club gear in school and also make "offhand comments" to kids about where they are playing, then that is a conflict of interest.

If a catholic scholl parent "feels" their kid will have a better chance of playing at Chaminade or St. Anthony's and they have their kid play for Express - well that isa decision to do so. It is not a decision that is forced on them. There are plenty of kids who play on other travel programs and still play at Chaminade of St. A's. However, at the public HS level - it is my opinion that is different and it is more of a conflict because our kids are not going to private school and they are definitely feeling the pressure to play for their coaches travel program.


All of the STARTERS at St Ants play Express because the "have" to - unwritten rule. On the other hand, the kids who have no chance of ever starting are free to play wherever they want although many of their delusional parents will still feel forced to join express hoping that it will make a difference - it won't. The Express directors should step down from St. Ant's or vice versa.

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All of the STARTERS at St Ants play Express because the "have" to - unwritten rule. On the other hand, the kids who have no chance of ever starting are free to play wherever they want although many of their delusional parents will still feel forced to join express hoping that it will make a difference - it won't. The Express directors should step down from St. Ant's or vice versa. [/quote]

At least two kids from fl$ play for St. Anthony's. So, I'm not certain this statement is correct.

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Also a serious conflict of interest with Danielle Gallagher, Manhasset GIRLS VARSITY coach and LIBERTY owner/director.


Saw her strutting around the other day at Manhasset in her Liberty jacket and sweats. Is she still a teacher there?


she has never taught in Manhasset (K-12)

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Can I add a correction, the captain of the JV team last year, did not play for Express he played for Outlaws and the year before played for the No Limit Ballers and that did not affect his position at St. Anthony's at all. Let's face it, the coaches want to win and will play their best players no matter what! At the end of the day, politics step aside and the best players play to win.

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Would it be to much to ask how many teams express has per age, the level they will play, roster size and who the coaches are.


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This also works in reverse, many kids play express who do not play for St. Ants or Chaminade or Kellenberg.

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Would it be to much to ask how many teams express has per age, the level they will play, roster size and who the coaches are.



Yes...it would be too much to ask...

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Would it be to much to ask how many teams express has per age, the level they will play, roster size and who the coaches are.



Yes...it would be too much to ask...


20223 - 2
2022 - 2
2021 - 2
2020 - 3
2019 - 2
2018 - 3
2017 - 4 (includes the turtles)
2016 - 3
2015 - 2

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2015 had three teams last summer Orange, Blue and White.

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If you include the turtles 2017 last summer had 5 teams. Did they cut back on a team this year? Was Turtles, Terps Black, Terps, Wolverines, and Phiranas.

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All of the STARTERS at St Ants play Express because the "have" to - unwritten rule. On the other hand, the kids who have no chance of ever starting are free to play wherever they want although many of their delusional parents will still feel forced to join express hoping that it will make a difference - it won't. The Express directors should step down from St. Ant's or vice versa.


What grade is your son at at St A's and which coach forced him to play Express? Please tell us and name. If you can't you should then retract your statement as hearsay

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All of the STARTERS at St Ants play Express because the "have" to - unwritten rule. On the other hand, the kids who have no chance of ever starting are free to play wherever they want although many of their delusional parents will still feel forced to join express hoping that it will make a difference - it won't. The Express directors should step down from St. Ant's or vice versa.


What grade is your son at at St A's and which coach forced him to play Express? Please tell us and name. If you can't you should then retract your statement as hearsay



this is not true.

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My son may go to St Anthony's in the future. Just curious who the coaches at St Anthony's are that are also part of Express.

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If you have a kid that is hands down the best, of course the kid will play. If you have kids that are relatively equal or one is even somewhat better than other - the summer teams definitely come into play because the coaches are already familiar with these kids.

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My son may go to St Anthony's in the future. Just curious who the coaches at St Anthony's are that are also part of Express.


Varsity and JV and some assts.

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Go to express website and click on the directors tab. Chaminade and St. Ants well represented.

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Are they all still the same coaches. I had heard there were some changes. My son will either go to Trinity or Kellenberg. Isn't the head of Express at one of these schools now?

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Mike Schwalje is Head Coach at Kellenberg>

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Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.

Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).

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Don't be such a homer. Not all the best stay at 'set. Every year 2-4 boys go to Chami that would start at Manhasset and probably a total of 6 that would play at Manhasset. And some boys stay at Manhasset out of fear they wouldn't play at Chaminade. This isn't a knock on Manhasset which is a great school and lacrosse program but it the truth. Manhasset should be proud of it's boys at Chaminade. Like Ranger Jimmy Regan!

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Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.

Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).


If you're from MD or PA, I'm sure they did their best against your son's 2016 team, that is without a doubt loaded with kids that are 17 and 18 years old. Yeah, I know same old refrain... You folks just don't like to hear the truth. They're all 2016's... blah, blah, blah, MD and PA teams play down.

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Regan was one of the last great Manhasset player to play at Chaminade. None of the kids from set that have gone to Chaminade since then have been impact players and they would not have played if they stayed at Set. That continues to be the case.

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Regan was one of the last great Manhasset player to play at Chaminade. None of the kids from set that have gone to Chaminade since then have been impact players and they would not have played if they stayed at Set. That continues to be the case.


Nothing but great things to say about Regan but the rest of your statement is idiotic.

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Why don't you check it out for yourself. Those are the facts. The good lacrosse players do not leave Set. You can't name a starter for Chaminade from Set in the last 4 yrs probably longer.

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Regan was one of the last great Manhasset player to play at Chaminade. None of the kids from set that have gone to Chaminade since then have been impact players and they would not have played if they stayed at Set. That continues to be the case.



It's stupid statements like that that make me hate the town even more than I already do!

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Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.

Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).


If you're from MD or PA, I'm sure they did their best against your son's 2016 team, that is without a doubt loaded with kids that are 17 and 18 years old. Yeah, I know same old refrain... You folks just don't like to hear the truth. They're all 2016's... blah, blah, blah, MD and PA teams play down.



1. None of our kids have repeated or are 16, let alone 17 or 18.

2. When you make blanket statements like that, you look like an idiot.

3. The Express 2016 team looked horrible, so I have to assume that is not LIE's best team. I know the Barracudda team two years ago was a one time thing, but man - that 2016 team has really gone downhill.

4. Did a bunch of guys leave for other programs? That's the only explanation I can think of to explain how bad they looked.

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Hate the town or not .....it's the truth.

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Why don't you check it out for yourself. Those are the facts. The good lacrosse players do not leave Set. You can't name a starter for Chaminade from Set in the last 4 yrs probably longer.


Tyler & Locan Dunn
Mike & Jack Brennan
Matt Wysota
James Roberts
Chris Comerford
Matty & Ian Gillen
Matt COnway
Will Himler
Tom Keane
Andrew and Dan Morici
John Hannan
JP Sullivan
Bill Coughlin
Mike Machassalla
Ricky Dicicco

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Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.

Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).


If you're from MD or PA, I'm sure they did their best against your son's 2016 team, that is without a doubt loaded with kids that are 17 and 18 years old. Yeah, I know same old refrain... You folks just don't like to hear the truth. They're all 2016's... blah, blah, blah, MD and PA teams play down.



1. None of our kids have repeated or are 16, let alone 17 or 18.

2. When you make blanket statements like that, you look like an idiot.

3. The Express 2016 team looked horrible, so I have to assume that is not LIE's best team. I know the Barracudda team two years ago was a one time thing, but man - that 2016 team has really gone downhill.

4. Did a bunch of guys leave for other programs? That's the only explanation I can think of to explain how bad they looked.


Most MD and PA kids play down. You can dispute it all you want, just a fact. Express has 3 or 4 teams at the age. What super team does your little Rabil play for?

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Hate the town or not .....it's the truth.



Manhasset plays low level teams in their league and would get killed if they played chaminade. oh wait, they did!

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Manhasset plays low level teams in their league and would get killed if they played chaminade. oh wait, they did!


Chaminade has 500 boys to choose from for each grade, Manhasset doesn't have that many kids in a grade! Per Capita, Manhasset lacrosse is as good as it gets.

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Manhasset plays low level teams in their league and would get killed if they played chaminade. oh wait, they did!


I didn't realize that the Marianist Brothers let their boys troll on websites during the middle of the school day. Wait.. am I mistaken? You are actually someone living vicariously through your child and behaving like a child!

Both Chaminade and Manhasset have great programs and both teams play strong competition each and every year.

Chaminade and Manhasset have played each other 6 times over the past 6 years and each has won 3 games.

Of course Chaminade does have a male student population of 1700 or so as compared to Manhasset's 500 or so...

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Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.

Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).


If you're from MD or PA, I'm sure they did their best against your son's 2016 team, that is without a doubt loaded with kids that are 17 and 18 years old. Yeah, I know same old refrain... You folks just don't like to hear the truth. They're all 2016's... blah, blah, blah, MD and PA teams play down.



1. None of our kids have repeated or are 16, let alone 17 or 18.

2. When you make blanket statements like that, you look like an idiot.

3. The Express 2016 team looked horrible, so I have to assume that is not LIE's best team. I know the Barracudda team two years ago was a one time thing, but man - that 2016 team has really gone downhill.

4. Did a bunch of guys leave for other programs? That's the only explanation I can think of to explain how bad they looked.


Most MD and PA kids play down. You can dispute it all you want, just a fact. Express has 3 or 4 teams at the age. What super team does your little Rabil play for?


Wrong. There is nobody on our team that was held back. The paranoia you NO guys have is unbelievable.

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You are clueless!!! Sorry your list is wrong not going to mention names (naming kids should be off limits)but some of them play for Set and not Chaminade. Most of the rest would not have started at Set. Again most of the best players in Set stay there. Why is that so bad or difficult to understand. You obviously don't live there or you would know better. Let it be. They are all great kids. It doesn't matter.

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You are clueless!!! Sorry your list is wrong not going to mention names (naming kids should be off limits)but some of them play for Set and not Chaminade. Most of the rest would not have started at Set. Again most of the best players in Set stay there. Why is that so bad or difficult to understand. You obviously don't live there or you would know better. Let it be. They are all great kids. It doesn't matter.


The list was in a response to comment that "no one" from Manhasset has played or started at Chaminade in recent years. These boys all did (see LAX Power recruits). There wasn't anything derogatory mentioned about any of the boys. The fact is: Manhasset has sent many fine lacrosse players to Chaminade.

Many many fine boys stay in Manhasset and play for the town high school.

As far as the particulars of these boys, they all did play for Chaminade. The fact that I mentioned their names is not in violation of this Board's rules as they were only mentioned in the best light.

Now, your own tone suggests that, if you were to mention a boys name in a posting, it would not be presented in the best light and used for negative purposes.

BTW A Manhasset resident with children throughout and through the public school system. You shouldn;t make assumptions.

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