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Obviously this is new to you. Kids don't go around saying who they have offers from BEFORE they accept - only after - hence the article you're referring to.

Obviously this is new to you. Kids don't go around saying who they have offers from BEFORE they accept - only after - hence the article you're referring to.

Interesting how this board (more broadly speaking - not just this Express thread) is mostly centered around club lax and other forums seem to have very few discussions about the club scene and are mostly focused on college and high school teams/issues. No point - just an observation. Both are good sources of info/perspective.

The "Joker" Ty Xanders is one of the most watched commentators in HS lax. Everyone cares what he says. He is at every recruiting venue evaluating players. If you didn't make the list, stop crying

Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.

Does Top include up to the top 254 (Set) ? And you think you are in the same League as WM 1? Ha

The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.

What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.

What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.

In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.

To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.

I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.

To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.

It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.

What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.

One suggestion I'd have for the list maker is to do away with teh enational list - nobody can do this with credibility - it's just too big of a universe to digest. What he should do instead is get regional lists of 25-50 that would capture alot of the talent he currently misses. more page views too!

you make no sense! There are 60 kids on top Spphomore list, most well deserved. Most either committed or soon to be. News Flash: That's part of the reason they are on the list! They have been identified by numerous evaluators as the best in their grade. Of couse there are many other great players in the grade not on list , because they only honor 60! Just because a kid commits to Duke or UNC does not mean they belong in the top 60. For example, assuming the top 10 programs take 12 kids each per grade level, obviously some will not be top 60. We all also know that many kids never see the field much regardless of where they commit. Only time will tell if kids on list continue to be stand out players. I personally think the number 60 is too small. At the very least there should be 100 ranked kids by this age.

I hardly think it's "numerous evaluators". It's like two guys talking to a a couple of clubs. Joke.

Not true!, maybe your upset because your kid didn't make the list? List is good, not long enough, but most kids on deserve to be there and have the stats to back up their selection. They do favor the prep schools, but then again, so do the top colleges! If you watch the list evolve over the next few years, you will see that these are the kids for the most part that will be starters in college.

Not true!, maybe your upset because your kid didn't make the list? List is good, not long enough, but most kids on deserve to be there and have the stats to back up their selection. They do favor the prep schools, but then again, so do the top colleges! If you watch the list evolve over the next few years, you will see that these are the kids for the most part that will be starters in college.

Really? I seem to recall not too long ago an Attackman from West Islip being ranked #1. How'd that work out? Goes back to the pror post of setting these kids up for a "Bust" label.

Really? I seem to recall not too long ago an Attackman from West Islip being ranked #1. How'd that work out? Goes back to the pror post of setting these kids up for a "Bust" label.

Galasso is hardly a bust. Freshman AA, ACC record for freshman. Some injuries and resulting transfer has slowed his career but he has two years left. I think you will be hearing his name again this year at Cuse. He may not be a college legend but I dont think he will be a bust either.

Galasso is hardly a bust. Freshman AA, ACC record for freshman. Some injuries and resulting transfer has slowed his career but he has two years left. I think you will be hearing his name again this year at Cuse. He may not be a college legend but I dont think he will be a bust either.

The other interesting thing about these lists is that they get reshuffled every year. How do the kids feel when they get moved down the list or maybe drop off altogether in subsequent years. Ouch. For all the supporters of these lists, lets see what you say about the process if your kid gets moved down. [lacrosse] hath no fury like a scorned lax mommy or daddy.

Why didn't this kid (or the kids' parents) want to play with his HS buddies with Cherry's Summer team?

Probably thought that the Express was a superior program. Otherwise awefully difficult to not play for your high school coach.

Unlike many School-run summer program's Bill Cherry doesn;t require kids to play for him. He certainly suggests that they may improve as a HS team if they are able to keep a core group together, but he doesn't seem to hammer the kids if they don;t play for his summer teams.

Probably thought that the Express was a superior program. Otherwise awefully difficult to not play for your high school coach.

Many of the better Manhasset players have opted to play Club ball. The Express team this kid playes for is one of the best. His experience playing with and against the best competition clearly has played a significant role in his development as a top tier player.

Many of the better Manhasset players have opted to play Club ball. The Express team this kid playes for is one of the best. His experience playing with and against the best competition clearly has played a significant role in his development as a top tier player.

Freshman AA due to hype. Records
because he was a man up specialist. Injuries?
Or was it the incoming freshman class that
made him transfer? Bust? Maybe.

Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.

Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.

Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.

I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}

You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed