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Shellenberger is 23. Old, but not ridiculously so.

I’d say more like 24 and his partner in crime Cormier was in his 6th year at uva all while most likely graduating HS at 19+

He turns 24 in 2024 but not sure of the exact date.

He was in college 6 years, He graduated from BL. No one graduates at 17 from BL that plays lacrosse . Majority are graduating at 19 and were holdbacks/prefirsts

edit: didn't graduate, used up his eligibility.

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What is the difference between true Illinois AAA and AA? Is one a national team? They also have an A team.

St Mary’s had 5 freshman on varsity this last year. 1 hawks attack started for part of the year at least. The rest saw minimal time.

Any opinions on the showcases this summer for high school kids? Nike, All American, Maryland Showcase, First in Class?

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He went to BL and started , which means his % of being held back was very high. Holdbacks graduate at 19 or turn 19 in summer. Add 6 years .

He could have been the one player on BL that didnt get heldback , LOL ,, then it was 18 plus 6 .

College Lacrosse is full of these grown men now, so it isnt like it is a big deal now. I personally think it is sad that college lacrosse has become what it is with respect to age of players.

Everything is changing in next few years with all the NIL and the breakups of NCAA conferences, I imagine soon we will have a different world of college sports . Should be interesting and how our non revenue lacrosse comes out.

Trying to keep track of True teams is a fool’s errand.

And true just purchased Rough Riders

Is that mean Booker and company will be promoting True now ? Help us all

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I wasn't sure the RedHots are doing 27 for Howard county, just their national teams.

True is sounding really rough for chesapeake/annapolis teams. Kids running to other clubs to avoid that 3k bill!

Any details on the John Carroll team? I can’t find anything about them except an interest form.

Obviously the Bot does a better job posting than people. Admins are out to lunch

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Made-up story that never happened.

What never happened?

What are you talking about? It's literally the exact same model but to a lesser degree than Hawks, Crabs, 91 and Madlax. It just happens NL as a team is just a little better than the others at this age group.

Sadly the 2027 DMV area teams are all down from a national perspective

NL has a top 10 ranking, but other than the win over 91 Machine (who were missing several key players btw), they have beaten no one of significance. Considering how many games they’ve lost, it’s puzzling how they are ranked so high.

Hawks have no big wins, but no bad losses.

Madlax has the best wins, including wins over Hawks and Crabs, but have sprinkled in some ugly losses along the way - including one to 91 Maryland.

Crabs are same boat as Hawks. No big wins, but no ugly losses.

91 Maryland really isn’t relevant other than that they’re just good enough to sneak up on a team every once in a while.

The rankings don’t really matter. All of the starters on these teams will have college offers.

Next Level started 2 girls against Machine and still beat them. The densest argument of sports is "were missing key players btw." No one cares. Machine had every single top player including the hot shot Lawrenceville goalie who didn't have a save until the last few minutes. The reason why NL was ranked 9 is because they beat everyone below them, don't play cupcakes and gave the teams ranked above them competitive games. 7 of the 9 teams ranked above them are supersquads from huge regional areas and multiple teams. It's a testament to what is basically a rec team where 25 out of the 26 players live within 10 miles of the practice field. All credit to Machine parents though, they were shocked but complementary as they stood around saying "who is next level."

So the Machine goalie had a bad game, and the team didn’t take NL seriously. That explains a lot. Thanks.

This summer NL lost the following games to teams ranked below them…

Mad Dog West (ranked 23)
Mad Dog Gold (ranked 41)
2 Way (ranked 22)
Shore 2 Shore (ranked 20)
Team 10 (ranked 16)
Leading Edge (ranked 15)

Most of these games weren’t even close. I get that the rankings are not exact, but every team between 10 and 20 should be ranked above them. And others as well.

And beat 2 Way
And beat Shore 2 Shore.

Whatever, take it up with USCL. Now do that same deep dive with the other teams and see what you come up wih. Maybe if those other teams could keep their rosters together instead of the players scattered around playing for a bunch of supersquads, they'd do better. I'm sorry a rec team beat Machine but maybe your gripe is with them.

It’s amazing how good a team can look when they’re playing against a struggling goalie.

Struggling? How about not that good and a terrible teammate to go with it. Lawrenceville won't put up with his @ChillLaxin for long and he'll hit the bench and they won't miss a beat.