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NAL does not have the talent of the NLF.

NAL had every top team NLF did and ALL. So does it not have the talent?
LIE
91 LI
Sweetlax
Laxachussettes
BBL
DCE
Team Ten
etc etc

the last tournament of the season was split in half. but keep saying only the good teams go to NLF

Been to both. NLF gets the nod for overall quality.

NAL is for people like you , puff your chest out and yell, Look at Us ! NLF is for the big boys to do what it takes to play superior talent and play D1 .
Talent is on two different planes.

They get the nod for the social media presence. For their vendors. But location...big nope. Those mud puddles were awful.

You clearly don’t know what you’re looking at. NAL is practically the teams from NLF combined with the teams from Alliance which equals a larger more competitive tournament than just NLF by itself. Anybody that says NLF gets the nod without substantiating their point is clearly deluded

If All was good the best players from the mediocre teams attending would have showed.didn’t show. Started an early summer. didn’t want to travel to a mediocre tournament with no scouts and waste money and NLF wins again.

Got to go to the National Championship big dance and win it if you want to be the National Champ. If your club director doesn’t do that time to switch to a winning club.

Not sure what tourney you were at but the talent was all there for the teams. Minus one player. And the college coaches...all the schools were there. The semi-finals had over 50 coaches on the sideline. But try again. Not sure why two tournaments can's exist.
Maybe the NLF teams should stop being afraid to play some of the other teams and boycoting them from the tourney.
For the first time for the ALL tourney they did a really nice job (minus the parking situation).
LIE, 91 LI, Sweetlax and Team Ten will all have around 10-12 kids committed by Sept 30th. That is what it is about.

There were plenty of coaches watching the Philly Team black balled from NLF

NLF is a shadow of what it used to be, lmao. The "founding clubs" haven't all stayed relevant to say the least. Especially Big 4 H. But so many other clubs have come on the scene that are shut out of NLF but are also top 10-20 teams. NAL had a better representation of all the top teams. Plus, what is up with the crappy fields they play NLF on? Long island must have better facilities to offer. Congratulations to Team 91 LI Storm for the beatdown ofI Express. Great summer.

NLF thoughts:

1. Too many teams, fields, and locations, so there were college coaches at only a few of the fields. There was way too much ground for the coaches to cover, so many players never got seen. What used to be a great recruiting tournament has become yet another money grab.

2. Location was a bad choice. Hotels were costly, travel to/from was a nightmare, and local traffic on LI made all the drive times to and from games twice as long.

3. Fields mostly grass, so all but the turf fields were slippery mud pits with all the rain. There were people using some kind of dirt squeegee to try and disperse the water from some fields.

4. Parking was great - and free!

5. Most officiating was solid. Probably the best tournament for officiating I have seen in years.

6. Some great lacrosse games - really. The guys I watched played their hearts out, even the ones with only parents watching the game. Just about every player I saw was recruitable. It was great to see so many skilled and dedicated players.

Congrats to the winners and the players who got seen.

I read your arguments to my son. He thinks you are all maroons for arguing. "They are both good. No one cares."

Accurate review.

Your son's opinion is irrelevant. If he knew what he was talking about he would say the NAL is the most competitive tournament of the summer. Its not hard to understand, but somehow there are maroons that can't grasp this or choose to argue against it

How can you be this dense? Go look at the club rankings and look at the number of top teams at the NLF then look at the number of top teams at the NAL. Report back what you find

Funny seeing this yutz fill pages saying how ALL is better than NLF for hours. Then admits above probably without knowing he did that he wants to really be at NLF but can’t . Probably can’t see the truth but really funny for the rest of us tho. Good look in the mirror might change your life pal, they really do just come notIntelligent in Philly don’t they

I wouldn't say anyone is saying ALL is better. People are just saying stop saying the NLF is the end all be all of the tourneys. More Top 20 teams at NAL. Similar Top 20 teams split at ALL and NLF. The competition was the same. Its time for everyone to realize that there is more to lacrosse than the NLF.
Sweetlax, BBL, Team Ten, DCE, 3D have just as many committs as LIE, Hawks, Team 91 etc. Time to move on and find some other way for you to feel relevant.

Philly really has you triggered lol

NLF is top 10 teams, NAL is top 20 teams, but they are 10-20. Big difference....just like D1 where the top 10 usually rule . Please stop this charade

Do you ever fact check before posting BS? What rankings are you looking at? In US Club rankings Team Ten is currently No. 2, Sweetlax Navy is No. 3, Sweetlax Upstate is No. 5, Sweetlax Fla is No. 9, ADVNC is No. 10, DCE is No. 12, 3D New England is No. 13, BBL is No. 14. So, 8 of the top 15 teams were not at NLF. Those teams were all at NAL along with the other top teams.

Everyone knows US Club rankings wee bought by All. Those rankings are debunked. Junk in and junk out. Funny to see Team 10 owner hissy fit dense dense.

So LIE is not number and Team 91 LI is not number 9? The rankings are based on quality of wins, amount of wins and goal differential. Very little human decision making, unike the NLF rankings that are person based. Not sure why the non-NLF teams have you so distraught.

Brilliant argument! Unassailable logic! Let's look at IL Coaches Poll...Team Ten is currently No. 2, Sweetlax Upstate is No. 4, DCE is No. 6, ADVNC NDP is No. 8, Sweetlax Fla is No. 9, FCA MD is 11, 3D NE Red is No. 13, S2S is No. 14. So, 7 of their Top 15 not at NLF. Oh right, that poll doesn't count either - "debunked" because NLF dad can't argue. Fact - NAL had more top 15 teams than NLF. Deal with it.

LOL - its the NLF people that are distraught that their "National Championship" tournament is really nothing of the sort. Please do share the poll - any poll - that supports your argument. You can't.

here is inside lacrosse rankings which is now affliated with NLF

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/club/2026/2023

Much different look thatn US Club lax. NLF heavy in the top 10. and the rating for the teams is not spelled out like US Club lacrosse.

Also, just look at the NLF indiviudal plater rankings. Very little amount of kids on non-NLF team ranked.

You got triggered pronto ! NLF players are better as are the teams. Any match ups, NLF is the winner. Now is there the occasional NAL team and players that competes, of course , but its the minority as NLF is the primer of D1 players and what college coaches look to first.

Please stop the US Club rankings. It is a farce ,

Wow, you must've been a philosophy and rhetoric major? Wait, they don't offer that at trade school, do they? I cited 2 different polls that prove you are wrong and you cite nothing but your own (incorrect) opinion to support your own (incorrect) argument - brilliant.

This year's NAL had more top 20 teams than NLF - period. But this is a free country, so you are entitled to your baseless and incorrect opinion, lmao.

Both of the teams that were in the NLF championship game attended the NAL and neither of them won the NAL. Nice try buddy

LIE didn't even make to the championship bracket at NAL!

Both of the teams that were in the NLF championship game attended the NAL and neither of them won the NAL. Only farce here is you

As a matter of fact neither of the teams that played in the NLF championship made it to the NAL championship. Please explain how NLF players and teams are better when they attended the NAL and didn't even make the championship game

Who cares?!!!!!!! They are both top notch tournaments! Give it a rest!! JFC.

Please. The NAL/NLF argument is so tiresome. Sure, it is nice to win, but if you believe that is the reason for being there, you are missing the point.

There is no argument. The only nonsense on this topic has been coming from the delusional person or people that keep stating that the NLF has superior competition to the NAL when the facts say otherwise.

Top to bottom talent, and college coach attendance, NLF is far superior.

NO ONE CARES but you 🤡s fighting about it!!!! Both are great tournaments, both have stellar competition, both have tons of college coaches, give it a rest. Move on.

Nope.

As much as you want it to be true, it’s not.

How are the commits going? All the big talkers here

Transfer Portal has made most recruits obsolete, Yes the few will demand some attention, but majority will be throwaways.

With the Portal so open, why take a HS player when there is a full class of 2nd and 3rd year college players out there.